EQ killed vascularity switching from test? What?

[pupil B]

So anyone wanna explain what's going on here with my eq? On 8iu hgh (edit: forgot to mention hgh) I switched from 1g test to 1.5g eq 250 test and my vascularity went down the absolute SHITTER. I lost probably 95% of it, it is basically at the level of a normal person now almost, whereas on 1g of test I was pretty roadmap-like.

I read that eq aromatizes at ~50% the rate of test so I thought 1.5g eq = 750 test, so in total both 1.5g eq + 250mg test and 1g test would be equal in aromatization, so I kept my aromasin dose the same. Diet obviously did not change but no matter what I ate on test I was a roadmap 24/7 and no matter what I eat on EQ I have no veins at all unless I am pumped

Anyone with similar experience or solution? I thought it was very commonly accepted that eq boosts vascularity through the roof but it completely killed mine...

It is not bunk I brewed it myself from a raw with the distinct EQ smell and obviously liquid at room temperature, and I do notice a massive massive increase in endurance and it is practically impossible to run out of breath.

[Army of One]

Strong first post

[pupil B]

Strong first post

Well I don't really post anywhere I mainly lurk all websites but you have to admit it is a unique interesting scenario and it's not like I am asking some noob question that's been answered a million times, I don't want to shit this place up with ordinary posts for no reason that no one cares about.

I feel this is interesting though.

edit: if you are not being sarcastic I apologize I have not been sleeping lately and my brain is not working properly

[dan18]

Well I don't really post anywhere I mainly lurk all websites but you have to admit it is a unique interesting scenario and it's not like I am asking some noob question that's been answered a million times, I don't want to shit this place up with ordinary posts for no reason that no one cares about.

I feel this is interesting though.

edit: if you are not being sarcastic I apologize I have not been sleeping lately and my brain is not working properly

we have a board for such questions, this one is to smack around stupidity and other various topics.

[pupil B]

we have a board for such questions, this one is to smack around stupidity and other various topics.

Oh I just thought everyone posted here instead due to the steroid board being dead, I looked at the first page of posts and it goes back many many months.

[dan18]

Oh I just thought everyone posted here instead due to the steroid board being dead, I looked at the first page of posts and it goes back many many months.

well its just the finishing touch around these parts we are all jacked so we dont need to use such things also we are all blessed with 9'' cocks and  we only date models and live in mansions,,

[pupil B]

well its just the finishing touch around these parts we are all jacked so we dont need to use such things also we are all blessed with 9'' cocks and  we only date models and live in mansions,,

yes of coures ,, my mistak ,,

destroy americano whore from the tinders with 9" hgh and aas thickened cock ,, straight to the masnion take the whores ,, and i say masnion because lol ! after all i am MILLIONER from bodybuild ,, made MILLIONS from bodybuild ,,

[dan18]

yes of coures ,, my mistak ,,

destroy americano whore from the tinders with 9" hgh and aas thickened cock ,, straight to the masnion take the whores ,, and i say masnion because lol ! after all i am MILLIONER from bodybuild ,, made MILLIONS from bodybuild ,,

   November 30, 2019, 04:11:39 AM
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3 posts since nov 2019 whats your main account

[pupil B]

   November 30, 2019, 04:11:39 AM
Last Active:   Today at 10:04:29 AM

3 posts since nov 2019 whats your main account

This is it, I might get banned for saying this but whatever, I made this account in the first place to be able to view gh15's profile and search all his posts (cannot do this unless registered and google search does not have all of them indexed). I did not want to post useless garbage here with nothing to contribute so I have not posted until now since I feel this is actually worthy of posting, as I have never heard of such a thing before.

I tend to not post on any websites unless there is a point behind it such as asking a good question or contributing good knowledge. Speaking of which I learned in medical school a few weeks ago the ACTUAL reason that insulin makes people blow up muscle wise, and no it is not "lol shuttle the nutrients into the muscles" (I always did think that was retarded reasoning), at least according to a person with ph.d's in both biochemistry and molecular biology that teaches at medical school. I have been intending to post that on this website specifically but I have been too lazy and tired to write it up properly and don't want to half ass it. It would require me to do some math and research about various chemical properties of certain molecules and their receptors to give some proper numbers (albeit a very rough and probably meaningless estimation) regarding the magnitude of a certain secondary effect of insulin that apparently no one knows about in the BB community. I guess I did break the ice though by posting here so maybe I will do it soon.

[dan18]

This is it, I might get banned for saying this but whatever, I made this account in the first place to be able to view GHQ15's profile and search all his posts (cannot do this unless registered and Google search does not have all of them indexed). I did not want to post useless garbage here with nothing to contribute so I have not posted until now since I feel this is actually worthy of posting, as I have never heard of such a thing before.

I tend to not post on any websites unless there is a point behind it such as asking a good question or contributing good knowledge. Speaking of which I learned in medical school a few weeks ago the ACTUAL reason that insulin makes people blow up muscle wise, and no it is not "Lola shuttle the nutrients into the muscles" (I always did think that was retarded reasoning), at least according to a person with pH.D's in both biochemistry and molecular biology that teaches at medical school. I have been intending to post that on this website specifically but I have been too lazy and tired to write it up properly and don't want to half ass it. It would require me to do some math and research about various chemical properties of certain molecules and their receptors to give some proper numbers (albeit a very rough and probably meaningless estimation) regarding the magnitude of a certain secondary effect of insulin that apparently no one knows about in the BB community. I guess I did break the ice though by posting here so maybe I will do it soon.

SOOOOOOOOOOO YOUR A STALKER  well just jump in add to the craziness don't take things to serious, good bunch of guys around here..

[willl]

I learned in medical school a few weeks ago the ACTUAL reason that insulin makes people blow up muscle wise, and no it is not "lol shuttle the nutrients into the muscles" (I always did think that was retarded reasoning), at least according to a person with ph.d's in both biochemistry and molecular biology that teaches at medical school. I have been intending to post that on this website specifically but I have been too lazy and tired to write it up properly and don't want to half ass it. It would require me to do some math and research about various chemical properties of certain molecules and their receptors to give some proper numbers (albeit a very rough and probably meaningless estimation) regarding the magnitude of a certain secondary effect of insulin that apparently no one knows about in the BB community. I guess I did break the ice though by posting here so maybe I will do it soon.

just copy paste it or send / upload the excerpts/documents from the med school

[joswift]

Well I don't really post anywhere I mainly lurk all websites but you have to admit it is a unique interesting scenario and it's not like I am asking some noob question that's been answered a million times, I don't want to shit this place up with ordinary posts for no reason that no one cares about.

I feel this is interesting though.

edit: if you are not being sarcastic I apologize I have not been sleeping lately and my brain is not working properly

no one here is all that interested in bodybuilding, if ESFitness comes back he will explain all you need to know about gear..
Not sure if hes dead or in prison though..

[DanielPaul]

Lol at him just now being in medical school, I finished that a decade ago and am doing my thesis for my astrophysics degree.

[Rusty Trombone]

Halo is that you?

[pupil B]

just copy paste it or send / upload the excerpts/documents from the med school

Well first of all I don’t want to risk getting caught giving away their materials on a steroid forum, and two I don’t want people knowing where I go. I am taking absolutely no risks here they are very anal about everything especially illegal drug usage... Plus it was not a very detailed analysis it was briefly talked about as the example of how ligands/molecules can have functions outside of their “intended” receptors.

But if you wanna research yourself I will type up something very brief later, I have lab soon I have to go.

[willl]

well i'm interested in the theory behind what you're claiming..

you're saying the known mechanisms of glucose and amino acid uptake through insulin stimulus (tyrosine kinase receptor, glut-4 pathway, etc..)
-aka shuttling of nutrients into muscles-
are not the reason for muscle growth ?

[dan18]

no one here is all that interested in bodybuilding, if ESFitness comes back he will explain all you need to know about gear..
Not sure if hes dead or in prison though..

Hes in saudi arabia making some cash on the side they have nice ice machines

[pupil B]

Lol at him just now being in medical school, I finished that a decade ago and am doing my thesis for my astrophysics degree.

oh excuse me ,, sorry i don't meet your standards princess

well i'm interested in the theory behind what you're claiming..

you're saying the known mechanisms of glucose and amino acid uptake through insulin stimulus (tyrosine kinase receptor, glut-4 pathway, etc..)
-aka shuttling of nutrients into muscles-
are not the reason for muscle growth ?

edit: here I got slightly carried away, made its own thread thought it would be more fitting and more people would see it to discuss

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661702.0

[harmankardon1]

Well first of all I don’t want to risk getting caught giving away their materials on a steroid forum, and two I don’t want people knowing where I go. I am taking absolutely no risks here they are very anal about everything especially illegal drug usage... Plus it was not a very detailed analysis it was briefly talked about as the example of how ligands/molecules can have functions outside of their “intended” receptors.

But if you wanna research yourself I will type up something very brief later, I have lab soon I have to go.

You doing a research degree? What's your thesis?

I have degree in molecular biology.... Srs.

[wes]

So anyone wanna explain what's going on here with my eq? On 8iu hgh (edit: forgot to mention hgh) I switched from 1g test to 1.5g eq 250 test and my vascularity went down the absolute SHITTER. I lost probably 95% of it, it is basically at the level of a normal person now almost, whereas on 1g of test I was pretty roadmap-like.

I read that eq aromatizes at ~50% the rate of test so I thought 1.5g eq = 750 test, so in total both 1.5g eq + 250mg test and 1g test would be equal in aromatization, so I kept my aromasin dose the same. Diet obviously did not change but no matter what I ate on test I was a roadmap 24/7 and no matter what I eat on EQ I have no veins at all unless I am pumped

Anyone with similar experience or solution? I thought it was very commonly accepted that eq boosts vascularity through the roof but it completely killed mine...

It is not bunk I brewed it myself from a raw with the distinct EQ smell and obviously liquid at room temperature, and I do notice a massive massive increase in endurance and it is practically impossible to run out of breath.

WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. .................FUCKFAC E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

[oldtimer1]

This board you have to guess who is the Fed is pretending to be a dopey bodybuilding fan. Please tell us more about your felonies?  Your IP is not being encrypted was your first mistake.

[pupil B]

This board you have to guess who is the Fed is pretending to be a dopey bodybuilding fan. Please tell us more about your felonies?  Your IP is not being encrypted was your first mistake.

"encrypting" an ip. lol. gh15 work only from 3-4lb laptop trown straight out the window !!

blog update i just front loaded 2 grams of test (gonna run 1 gram) fuck it. don't know if i am gonna drop the eq or do 1g test 1.5g eq

[pellius]

This is odd as EQ has the reputation of increasing vascularity. I think it's because it increases the red blood cell count. But, if you haven't gained a lot of weight recently you can assume it's water retention that's blurring the vascularity. Maybe it's just your personal reaction to EQ. If you want vascularity then nothing beats Tren.

[wes]

Lay off the cupcakes!!

[trapz101]

eq probably bunk