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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2300 on: March 29, 2020, 08:40:48 PM »
Can't stump the Trump?Hopefully this is legit.

No. Fake news. Other prominent figures were also posting similar information (Rudy Guliani) and they had their accounts blocked on twitter for spreading misinformation

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« Reply #2301 on: March 29, 2020, 08:42:10 PM »
Well here you have it. Trump just confirmed social distancing extended to 30th April......

I estimated June to ease back so it's looking like that could be the case.

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« Reply #2302 on: March 29, 2020, 08:53:46 PM »
No. Fake news. Other prominent figures were also posting similar information (Rudy Guliani) and they had their accounts blocked on twitter for spreading misinformation

That's more the lefties melting down

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« Reply #2303 on: March 29, 2020, 08:57:16 PM »
hydroxychlroquine faciliates Zinc entering cells. once zinc is in the cell, it slows down virus replication.
azithromycin has some synergies with HCQ, but it also fights off other infections that could hurt you while your body is busy fighting the virus. the time that the zinc buys you allows your white blood cells to kill the virus before it gets too big in number.

This seems to be the simplified reason as to why it might possibly be working.

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« Reply #2304 on: March 29, 2020, 09:03:33 PM »
hydroxychlroquine faciliates Zinc entering cells. once zinc is in the cell, it slows down virus replication.
azithromycin has some synergies with HCQ, but it also fights off other infections that could hurt you while your body is busy fighting the virus. the time that the zinc buys you allows your white blood cells to kill the virus before it gets too big in number.

This seems to be the simplified reason as to why it might possibly be working.

Why is the media so anti-hydrochloroquine? Do they want us to die, or do they think it’s bogus?

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« Reply #2305 on: March 29, 2020, 09:16:13 PM »
Why is the media so anti-hydrochloroquine? Do they want us to die, or do they think it’s bogus?

They would rather Trump fail than him be right and hundreds of thousands/millions be saved.The blackpill from all this is that it's a selfish world and everyone is out for their own interests, even faced with millions dying.

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« Reply #2306 on: March 30, 2020, 12:11:57 AM »
Why is the media so anti-hydrochloroquine? Do they want us to die, or do they think it’s bogus?

It doesn’t fit there doom gloom & Control Agenda - last thing they want is people getting better and
Feeling happy & Well.

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« Reply #2307 on: March 30, 2020, 12:22:52 AM »
hydroxychlroquine faciliates Zinc entering cells. once zinc is in the cell, it slows down virus replication.
azithromycin has some synergies with HCQ, but it also fights off other infections that could hurt you while your body is busy fighting the virus. the time that the zinc buys you allows your white blood cells to kill the virus before it gets too big in number.

This seems to be the simplified reason as to why it might possibly be working.

This shit is being heavily politicized. Rudy pulls out some russian orthodox jew doctor in New York who is himself is actually unable to see patients directly to make this claim.

This kinda BS needs to stop on both sides

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2308 on: March 30, 2020, 12:33:03 AM »
Deaths are far higher than been reported in Europe. Same places are not counting deaths at home in their figures, some aren't counting care home deaths.

UK/London has gone full potatoe and are only giving details of deaths only when the family have given permission. Ventilators will now only be going to those who have a high probability of recovery. Others will be sedated and left to pass in isolation.

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« Reply #2309 on: March 30, 2020, 01:25:31 AM »
Deaths are far higher than been reported in Europe. Same places are not counting deaths at home in their figures, some aren't counting care home deaths.

UK/London has gone full potatoe and are only giving details of deaths only when the family have given permission. Ventilators will now only be going to those who have a high probability of recovery. Others will be sedated and left to pass in isolation.

Deaths reported are being inflated
Death with the virus is not the same as death from the virus.

Regardless of cause of death bodies are now tested, if it comes back positive they are added to the Covid figures...


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« Reply #2310 on: March 30, 2020, 02:19:44 AM »
Deaths reported are being inflated
Death with the virus is not the same as death from the virus.

Regardless of cause of death bodies are now tested, if it comes back positive they are added to the Covid figures...


This is to difficult to understand for many on here.

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« Reply #2311 on: March 30, 2020, 03:56:27 AM »
Deaths reported are being inflated
Death with the virus is not the same as death from the virus.

Regardless of cause of death bodies are now tested, if it comes back positive they are added to the Covid figures...



That would be like saying no one dies from aids.

If covid19 accelerates deaths from other health conditions then as much as people might not like it, it needs go down as a covid death.

Why? Because if we don't have long term immunity, or create a successful treatment or vaccine, then chances are this will become seasonal like flu and we'd need to scale up the health system to be robust enough to deal with it every year. Can't do that efficiently without accurate reporting of covid related deaths.

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« Reply #2312 on: March 30, 2020, 04:13:09 AM »
Covid is culling the herd of the weak.




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« Reply #2313 on: March 30, 2020, 05:42:59 AM »
That would be like saying no one dies from aids.

If covid19 accelerates deaths from other health conditions then as much as people might not like it, it needs go down as a covid death.

Why? Because if we don't have long term immunity, or create a successful treatment or vaccine, then chances are this will become seasonal like flu and we'd need to scale up the health system to be robust enough to deal with it every year. Can't do that efficiently without accurate reporting of covid related deaths.


Hmmm Let me get your thinking correct -
so I’ve got cancer & CHI NAH Virus (unknown to me) while out Driving my car I’m Killed
In a Road Traffic Accident- I’m Tested For The CHI NAH Virus & it comes back positive........
So I’m classified as a CHI NAH Virus Death. 🙄

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« Reply #2314 on: March 30, 2020, 05:57:54 AM »

Hmmm Let me get your thinking correct -
so I’ve got cancer & CHI NAH Virus (unknown to me) while out Driving my car I’m Killed
In a Road Traffic Accident- I’m Tested For The CHI NAH Virus & it comes back positive........
So I’m classified as a CHI NAH Virus Death. 🙄


No you're classified as retarded

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« Reply #2315 on: March 30, 2020, 05:58:44 AM »

Hmmm Let me get your thinking correct -
so I’ve got cancer & CHI NAH Virus (unknown to me) while out Driving my car I’m Killed
In a Road Traffic Accident- I’m Tested For The CHI NAH Virus & it comes back positive........
So I’m classified as a CHI NAH Virus Death. 🙄


Yes, that is exactly what's happening.  A person who has COPD, CHF, Cardiomyopathy, etc. catches the kung flu and dies.  The kung flu gets the kill.  It's not fair.   >:(

Think about the nursing homes.  Half the residents are circling the drain already, and would probably die soon, without kung flu's help.  Why does China Virus get all the glory?   ???

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« Reply #2316 on: March 30, 2020, 06:12:27 AM »
No you're classified as retarded

Deaths "from" covid19 are not the same as deaths "with" Covid19

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« Reply #2317 on: March 30, 2020, 07:13:09 AM »
Deaths "from" covid19 are not the same as deaths "with" Covid19

The simple fact is covid19 makes pre-existing conditions more dangerous. If Covid19 exacerbates other conditions which then ends in death with covid complications then (for now) it needs recording as a covid death as that's what's being treated (or not as in the care homes)

It may well be the person would only have had 2 more extra months of life without covid, but they could just as easily have had 2 more years. We can not say for certain

As I said they need to accurately record every covid related death right now in case they need to deal with this seasonally. If it is just a one off then in time they can look at how the deaths are categorized more forensically. What they can't do is half ass it. Just look at the problems half assing has caused right now.


 


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« Reply #2318 on: March 30, 2020, 07:18:05 AM »
The simple fact is covid19 makes pre-existing conditions more dangerous. If Covid19 exacerbates other conditions which then ends in death with covid complications then (for now) it needs recording as a covid death as that's what's being treated (or not as in the care homes)

It may well be the person would only have had 2 more extra months of life without covid, but they could just as easily have had 2 more years. We can not say for certain

As I said they need to accurately record every covid related death right now in case they need to deal with this seasonally. If it is just a one off then in time they can look at how the deaths are categorized more forensically. What they can't do is half ass it. Just look at the problems half assing has caused right now.


 


the fact that most people probably have the virus by now (if its as contagious as they make out) then everyone who goes into hospital either already has it or will get it while in hospital then every death will be put down to Covid19 if they test after death..


It will be interesting to see if deaths by other causes are dropping after this is over, my bet is the figures wont be available..

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« Reply #2319 on: March 30, 2020, 08:00:09 AM »
the fact that most people probably have the virus by now (if its as contagious as they make out) then everyone who goes into hospital either already has it or will get it while in hospital then every death will be put down to Covid19 if they test after death..


It will be interesting to see if deaths by other causes are dropping after this is over, my bet is the figures wont be available..

Having the virus and having complications brought on by the virus are also 2 different things. You'll see some kinda respiratory distress and lung damage if it's a covid related death.

What we don't need is the deaths being glossed over and then facing the same situation again next year. Do you think we'll have many doctors and nurses left in a couple of years if they are forced to work 12 hour shifts for months without a day off dealing with pandemics?

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« Reply #2320 on: March 30, 2020, 08:48:43 AM »
British police ignoring Mosques open for Friday prayers..

I thought you’d  only love that now you’re a libtard

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« Reply #2321 on: March 30, 2020, 08:56:14 AM »
No you're classified as retarded

Hmmmm if I’m Retarded - Then you’re not even on the scale - As intelligent as an amoeba
Carry on Oh Great Fuckwit. 👍🏻

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2322 on: March 30, 2020, 09:01:30 AM »
Yes, that is exactly what's happening.  A person who has COPD, CHF, Cardiomyopathy, etc. catches the kung flu and dies.  The kung flu gets the kill.  It's not fair.   >:(

Think about the nursing homes.  Half the residents are circling the drain already, and would probably die soon, without kung flu's help.  Why does China Virus get all the glory?   ???

We’ll have to ask the Great Amoeba Fuckwit Fleacon he knows Fuck all.

Me I Thinks it’s as follows,
It suits the purpose of pushing the Dangerous Virus that kills all & force everyone to be
Locked up at home for their own Health & Safety.
So the casualty No.s are huge from the CHI NAH Virus = More Fear = More Control.

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« Reply #2323 on: March 30, 2020, 09:12:45 AM »
Having the virus and having complications brought on by the virus are also 2 different things. You'll see some kinda respiratory distress and lung damage if it's a covid related death.

What we don't need is the deaths being glossed over and then facing the same situation again next year. Do you think we'll have many doctors and nurses left in a couple of years if they are forced to work 12 hour shifts for months without a day off dealing with pandemics?

If this virus is as dangerous as they are making out it wouldnt matter if the hospitals were closed, it would appear everyones dying any way..

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2324 on: March 30, 2020, 09:18:16 AM »
I think this car analogy is better:

Car is on a cliff. It may have all kinds of problems. Bad brakes, it's leaking oil etc. but it's not going anywhere.

A huge boulder hits the car, pushing it over the edge of the cliff.

Corona is that boulder.