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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #4350 on: December 29, 2020, 02:56:56 PM »
The CDC has said that Flu has disappeared because of people wearing masks, they also say Covid is spreading because people are not wearing masks..

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #4351 on: December 30, 2020, 10:22:15 AM »
Teachers Unions Must Never Be Allowed To Ban Kids From An Education Again
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Posted on 12/30/2020, 12:38:03 PM




As an adult who teaches, I got to choose an open school. Union politics have now barred millions of families from a similar privilege.

I don’t blame schools for closing in March. Very little was known about COVID-19 then, so closures seemed the safest decision amid the uncertainty.

Neither do I blame schools for a meager showing that semester. My own district threw together online curricula and instructional materials practically overnight. The results were dismal, but it’s the best many could have done given the situation.

However, we’ve now had nine months to understand this virus, and all the evidence favors returning to in-person instruction. Studies have found that schools are not in fact the “super spreaders” many feared. Dr. Anthony Fauci himself has said to “close the bars and keep the schools open.”

Perhaps some schools in hot-spots ought to close, but they should do so for genuine safety concerns, not fear of consequences at the next election. Citing the social, emotional, and academic benefits of in-person learning, The American Association of Pediatrics “strongly advocates” for open schools everywhere possible.

Nonetheless, the majority of our nation’s children have spent the last nine months staring at a computer screen at home, clicking through homework links or simply opting to not show up. One institution bears significant guilt for this state of affairs: teacher’s unions.

Cato Institute researcher Corey DeAngelis crunched the numbers and confirmed what many suspected: school closures had more to do with union power than pandemic concerns. When he reviewed the decisions that various districts and schools made to open or close, he found that the data correlated more closely with the strength of policies favorable to unions than to case counts and deaths.

The politics get more ludicrous. Unions have protested when school officials set open dates. While discussing school openings, the Los Angeles teachers union also demanded a wealth tax and Medicare for All. A number of unions banded together with the Socialists of America on a resolution to “demand safe schools,” only to eschew discussions of safe openings to instead decry charter schools and suggest cancellation of rent.

At the end of last semester, I decided to change districts to one that would open. Some of my students have had to quarantine. However, with masks, social distancing, and hand sanitizer, we’ve had no local spread; we’ve traced our positive cases to external exposures. We’ve had no disastrous outbreak.

Rather, we have spent our year so far discussing books, playing vocabulary games, running football plays at recess, learning subjects and predicates, decorating my room with Christmas lights, and doing everything a school ought to do: promoting socialization, academic development, and mental health.

As an adult, I got to choose an open school. Union politics have now barred millions of families from a similar privilege.

The academic losses are severe. In June, The New York Times reported months’ worth of learning losses because of school closures. Fewer than half of students showed up during that first semester online. While attendance has improved the learning loss continues, especially among poor and minority students.

After a critical response, the Chicago Teachers Union deleted a tweet insinuating that the push to open schools comes from “racism, sexism, and misogyny.” Considering who these learning losses affect most, it’s quite the opposite.

If enrollment numbers are any determinant of public opinion, then school openings appear wildly popular. The superintendent of Boston Catholic Schools reported an increase of 4,000 students after they made their announcement to open. Other districts have seen similar trends. Families are voting with their feet, many opting out of public education for any in-person schooling available.

If nothing else, this situation is a clear example of both union power and their disregard for student concerns. Families, teachers, and taxpayers cannot truly influence school decisions when union members have the power to strike, undue influence in local elections, and the purse of their national affiliates.

The American Federation of Teachers gave more in political donations than the boogie-man Koch Industries did in 2020. Teachers unions have long been a dominant force in local and national politics, both in funding and manpower.

While the worst of the pandemic closures seem nigh over, there’s a clear policy moving forward that can protect students from similar sways of union fickleness: school choice. Zipcodes locked students into closed schools during the pandemic, and only those with means could look elsewhere.

A few others chose “pandemic pods” but even that forces the opportunity cost of staying home from a job. They should have had the freedom to look elsewhere without legal consequences, but our current laws kept them from doing so.

It’s time to continue legislative victories that weaken the sway of government unions over American education. The Supreme Court decision Janus v. AFSCME ensured that no public school teachers need to pay union dues if they do not want to. Local laws in many states increased austerity measures to ensure they don’t follow Detroit’s lead and bankrupt themselves from over-promised, union-bargained pensions. School choice would similarly allow any family to select a school that is less beholden to union pressure.

Unions do not care for students. The pandemic has made this abundantly clear. They’ve lost prestige in many people’s minds from this. It’s right that they continue to lose political power too.

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #4352 on: December 30, 2020, 10:53:40 AM »
Did I say you were fabricating those figures? Also, I don't see where I used the words from or with in my reply. The article didn't differentiate between the two. However when you change the word 'from' to 'with' in google and the exact same article comes up....with the exact same numbers.

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&hs=jK8&sxsrf=ALeKk004LPhGRfA7VG8x6j_tOY3Kw-FKCQ%3A1609288492294&ei=LMvrX4y9EYnc-gSdubSoCw&q=how+many+people+in+the+UK+have+died+with+covid%3F&oq=how+many+people+in+the+UK+have+died+with+covid%3F&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoECAAQR1CxhRBY2IsQYLWXEGgAcAN4AIABUIgBqAKSAQE0mAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBB8ABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiMg7LnuvTtAhUJrp4KHZ0cDbUQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

The Daily Mail which which reported the stats you provided uses the word 'of' covid

388 people aged under 60 with 'NO underlying health conditions' have died of Covid in England's hospitals.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9090847/Only-377-people-aged-60-no-underlying-health-conditions-died-Covid-UK.html

Yes, "of" covid means you died from covid alone, "with" covid means various things, it can mean you tested positive but died of cancer or dementia or a multitude of other causes.
They have even used the word "with" covid even if the person who has died hasn't even had a test.

The figures have been vastly inflated, and thats in every single country in Europe.

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #4353 on: December 30, 2020, 11:58:53 AM »
The Daily Mail is rated as having a 'right' bias. The Daily Mail figures concur with yours. The Daily Mail used the term 'of' and not 'with'. In my original post, I used the term 'from'. While I don't disagree with your definition of these words, I believe they are often used interchangeably or without giving them the finite meaning that you do.

Regardless of whether people died from, of or with Covid, I did not disagree with your figures. I was simply surprised that such an overwhelming majority (like almost all) of the Covid deaths were people over 60. If they'd taken it a step further, and discounted pre-existing conditions, the people under 60 who died of or from Covid would be almost nil. Don't you agree?

Whether or not Covid numbers are inflated is not part of this original conversation or the first post, which was by you.

Its 388 people who have died under 60 from covid alone, without pre-existing conditions.

There are more under 60 that have died with pre-existing conditions.

I think we are basically in agreement but sen to be at cross purposes over the definitions.

The UK uses the term "died within 28 days of a positive diagnosis"

I have an 88 year old friend who is in hospital at the moment with various conditions but not covid as she has had 4 tests whilst in there.

I guarantee if she doesnt pull through she will have Covid mentioned on her death certificate.

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« Reply #4354 on: December 30, 2020, 01:51:57 PM »
Im not making it up, those are the figures on the Gov.uk website people under 60 who had no comorbidities

You have more chance of drowning in the UK if you are under 60 and healthy

And the 74k is people who died "with covid" not "from covid"

Yes, this really f**ks me off too  >:(

The other annoying one is that they talk about the number of positive test results rising, but they never do it as a percentage of tests being carried out - if you're doing a hundred times more tests, of course the number of positives will rise

Those corrected CIR figures are probably tucked away on some website somewhere, but they never seen to surface

The other number that was reported at the beginning but seems to have dropped away, was a figure for those who have recovered - i.e. the good news.  You can see them on the first few pages of this thread (which BTW are quite funny now in hindsight)

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #4355 on: December 30, 2020, 02:02:28 PM »

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« Reply #4356 on: December 30, 2020, 04:39:32 PM »
Yes, this really f**ks me off too  >:(

The other annoying one is that they talk about the number of positive test results rising, but they never do it as a percentage of tests being carried out - if you're doing a hundred times more tests, of course the number of positives will rise

Those corrected CIR figures are probably tucked away on some website somewhere, but they never seen to surface

The other number that was reported at the beginning but seems to have dropped away, was a figure for those who have recovered - i.e. the good news.  You can see them on the first few pages of this thread (which BTW are quite funny now in hindsight)



Yesterday they said they had 53,000 new cases in the UK
There are 90 testing centres, that means each testing centre would had had to have had at least 96 positive cases every hour of the 6 hours they are open..

There is a testing centre near me that is always empty..

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« Reply #4357 on: December 31, 2020, 05:11:15 AM »
Yesterday they said they had 53,000 new cases in the UK
There are 90 testing centres, that means each testing centre would had had to have had at least 96 positive cases every hour of the 6 hours they are open..

There is a testing centre near me that is always empty..

Joswift and another maths fail  :D

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« Reply #4358 on: December 31, 2020, 05:52:09 AM »
Joswift and another maths fail  :D
sorry it was 98.1481481481 per hour ,my bad

53,000 divided by 90 =588.888888889 positive tests per station
Divide that by six hours =98.1481481481 per hour

Or half an apple....

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« Reply #4359 on: January 01, 2021, 03:39:31 PM »
I love how these liberal failures who like straw are fat and obese and out of shape year round scream "The science!!!!"   Yet the so called science also says vitamin D deficiency is big, so is being a obese slob, etc.  So these fat bastids staying home and inside binging on cookies and cake and all sorts of crap who can barely stand up off the couch can F off.

This is also funny.  Even though I suspect me and my family had this back at the beginning that's just a guess.  I know personally of only two people that have had this actually confirmed since March - both very obese - both had visits to hospital but have recovered

And even though we've been told that obesity is a risk factor, people talk about putting weight on during lockdown!! 'COVID spread' *sigh*  ::)



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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #4360 on: January 01, 2021, 04:03:49 PM »
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Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #4361 on: January 05, 2021, 07:32:46 PM »
“I have been fighting Covid-19 for three weeks” – Dexter Jackson.

2008 Mr. Olympia winner Dexter Jackson has confirmed on his official social media that he has Covid-19.

Dexter has retired from competitive bodybuilding after competing for the last time at the 2020 Olympia Weekend.

The bodybuilding legend that has a record 29 victories said that Covid-19 is no joke.

From having a bad cough to sweating constantly, Dexter has been locked inside his home for three weeks.

With the 2020 Olympia Weekend taking place just about three weeks ago, it seems that Dexter might have got infected during the Olympia Weekend or just afterwards.

With Dexter confirming he is infected; it would not be a surprise if other athletes come forward confirming that they also have Covid-19.

https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/i-have-been-fighting-covid-19-for-three-weeks-dexter-jackson/?fbclid=IwAR0pmac10b_i_aH3jnOXcZxFMdeCMZICUIc1CjCXE77Oz6B-qvh3DKjb9a4

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« Reply #4362 on: January 06, 2021, 07:16:39 AM »
“I have been fighting Covid-19 for three weeks” – Dexter Jackson.

2008 Mr. Olympia winner Dexter Jackson has confirmed on his official social media that he has Covid-19.

Dexter has retired from competitive bodybuilding after competing for the last time at the 2020 Olympia Weekend.

The bodybuilding legend that has a record 29 victories said that Covid-19 is no joke.

From having a bad cough to sweating constantly, Dexter has been locked inside his home for three weeks.

With the 2020 Olympia Weekend taking place just about three weeks ago, it seems that Dexter might have got infected during the Olympia Weekend or just afterwards.

With Dexter confirming he is infected; it would not be a surprise if other athletes come forward confirming that they also have Covid-19.

https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/i-have-been-fighting-covid-19-for-three-weeks-dexter-jackson/?fbclid=IwAR0pmac10b_i_aH3jnOXcZxFMdeCMZICUIc1CjCXE77Oz6B-qvh3DKjb9a4


What are the chances it happened when his entire family joined him onstage and took turns hugging him while he was still breathing deeply from posing..?
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« Reply #4363 on: January 06, 2021, 08:10:18 AM »

What are the chances it happened when his entire family joined him onstage and took turns hugging him while he was still breathing deeply from posing..?

If takes on average 5 days for symptoms to appear, so add another 5 days to those 3 weeks.

That puts his infection date a few days before the Olympia, meaning a good chance he competed whilst infected!

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« Reply #4364 on: January 06, 2021, 08:25:29 AM »
If takes on average 5 days for symptoms to appear, so add another 5 days to those 3 weeks.

That puts his infection date a few days before the Olympia, meaning a good chance he competed whilst infected!

He looked terrible.  I love Dex but this was a horrible showing. 

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« Reply #4365 on: January 06, 2021, 08:41:41 AM »
All just a coincidence right ?

Everything is about financial

Not much talk about the “ problem “

Anymore

Problem = solution

They tried with SARS  it didn’t work

But the crash did happen

Now another crash

Coincidence both had germs associated around then

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« Reply #4366 on: January 10, 2021, 10:44:39 AM »


Covid-19 is real, but yes, it is a 1% or less mortality rate.   The older you get, the more it is lethal. Simple as that.   It is like the flu, BUT much worse in quite a lot of people, as it goes into the chest and you have a harder time breating in before you couch out.


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« Reply #4367 on: January 10, 2021, 11:40:05 AM »
Deaths to and including November from all causes in the UK in 2020 = 551,000

Total deaths in the UK in 2018 = 616,000

So unless over 67,000 people have died in December the UK is better off this year than 2018

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« Reply #4368 on: January 10, 2021, 11:41:11 AM »
“I have been fighting Covid-19 for three weeks” – Dexter Jackson.

2008 Mr. Olympia winner Dexter Jackson has confirmed on his official social media that he has Covid-19.

Dexter has retired from competitive bodybuilding after competing for the last time at the 2020 Olympia Weekend.

The bodybuilding legend that has a record 29 victories said that Covid-19 is no joke.

From having a bad cough to sweating constantly, Dexter has been locked inside his home for three weeks.

With the 2020 Olympia Weekend taking place just about three weeks ago, it seems that Dexter might have got infected during the Olympia Weekend or just afterwards.

With Dexter confirming he is infected; it would not be a surprise if other athletes come forward confirming that they also have Covid-19.

https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/i-have-been-fighting-covid-19-for-three-weeks-dexter-jackson/?fbclid=IwAR0pmac10b_i_aH3jnOXcZxFMdeCMZICUIc1CjCXE77Oz6B-qvh3DKjb9a4

Thats Tren and T3s

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« Reply #4369 on: January 10, 2021, 05:14:55 PM »
I knew it was only a matter of time.  So far, everything is going according to plan.

Hey Getbig COVID believers - didn't you tell us "Just two weeks to flatten the curve"?  What gives?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lKCTkLJbtT4

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« Reply #4370 on: January 11, 2021, 04:47:21 PM »
The excess mortality data is coming in.

Question to ANYONE:

Does ANYONE here even notice a pandemic is going on?  ANYONE?

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« Reply #4371 on: January 11, 2021, 05:20:40 PM »
wooooshhhh


and just like that... there was a cure...



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« Reply #4372 on: January 11, 2021, 07:16:01 PM »
Fags and cowards.  Cowards and fags.
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« Reply #4373 on: January 11, 2021, 11:34:37 PM »
Yes. I notice it whenever I go out. There are far fewer cars on the road. People in public places wear masks. I wanted to eat breakfast out this morning and guess what? That's not possible right now unless you order take out and eat it in your car. When I go to the doctor, I have to call them when I arrive to see if it is okay to come in. There used to be school buses stopping to pick up and drop off kids though out the day on the street corner in front of my house. Have yet to see one this school year. I am fucking bored shitless and there is nothing I can think of to do anymore that I haven't already done to keep myself occupied.

Let me guess. You are going to tell me it is my own fault and I should just ignore the whole pandemic thing. Easy peasy! Now tell me in detail how to go about doing that.

And again you’re completely clueless.

It’s almost impossible to consider the intensity of your stupidity.

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« Reply #4374 on: January 11, 2021, 11:55:47 PM »
And again you’re completely clueless.

It’s almost impossible to consider the intensity of your stupidity.
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