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« on: March 04, 2020, 12:30:35 AM »

Drug talk is around 13:40

Any thoughts on this?


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uElEjcVk18" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uElEjcVk18</a>
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2020, 12:45:01 AM »

Drug talk is around 13:40

Any thoughts on this?


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uElEjcVk18" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uElEjcVk18</a>

He seems genuine enough - If heís got good quality PEDs then his amounts are believable
& Sufficient - Iíd rather listen to him than some of the Idiotic Shotgun dosages spouted by many.
Many many fools think More is Better.
Just as an aside I know 2 Lads On Supposedly Tren 600mg 3x a week + whatever else.
Very clearly there 600mg Tren is Crap. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2020, 03:50:51 AM »

His liver hasn't made a comment thus far.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2020, 11:03:34 AM »

He seems genuine enough - If heís got good quality PEDs then his amounts are believable
& Sufficient - Iíd rather listen to him than some of the Idiotic Shotgun dosages spouted by many.
Many many fools think More is Better.
Just as an aside I know 2 Lads On Supposedly Tren 600mg 3x a week + whatever else.
Very clearly there 600mg Tren is Crap. 

He must really have a tough time with weight if he's running zero test. Most of the pro's I've heard on podcasts/yt willing to discuss gear keep it fairly sensible all things considered.  Standard test seems to run from 1k to 1.5 and pharm gh 4 to 8.

That tren must be under dosed.

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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2020, 12:41:27 PM »

He must really have a tough time with weight if he's running zero test. Most of the pro's I've heard on podcasts/yt willing to discuss gear keep it fairly sensible all things considered.  Standard test seems to run from 1k to 1.5 and pharm gh 4 to 8.

That tren must be under dosed.




Yeah the no Test was the only part I fount a bit odd.
Maybe heís having a break.

Iíd agree with a gram of test if itís proper good quality that should be ample
Though these 270lb + monsters may well be upping that.

As for those I know taking 1800mg of Tren ace a week 🙄 - I donít bother trying to speak to
Them about what their taking etc. Itís not worth the effort.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2020, 07:03:21 PM »


Yeah the no Test was the only part I fount a bit odd.
Maybe heís having a break.

Iíd agree with a gram of test if itís proper good quality that should be ample
Though these 270lb + monsters may well be upping that.

As for those I know taking 1800mg of Tren ace a week 🙄 - I donít bother trying to speak to
Them about what their taking etc. Itís not worth the effort.

I just wonder what motivates people to take these crazy amounts.  Huh 
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2020, 04:27:18 AM »

I just wonder what motivates people to take these crazy amounts.  Huh  


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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 06:58:11 AM »

I just wonder what motivates people to take these crazy amounts.  Huh 



Stupidity I put it down to & The More is Better Principle
Plus Bunk gear.
2 of the Idiots Iím aware of - 1 is quite tall 6ft & lean and always on about getting huge - Yet hasnít changed In over 2yrs. Not particularly Bright.
The other is 45+ & trains chest / shoulders / Arms & around 160lb & not as Bright as the other one. !!
They sometimes train together, if it can be called that. They hoist things should I say.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2020, 07:17:26 AM »

He must really have a tough time with weight if he's running zero test. Most of the pro's I've heard on podcasts/yt willing to discuss gear keep it fairly sensible all things considered.  Standard test seems to run from 1k to 1.5 and pharm gh 4 to 8.

That tren must be under dosed.



Matt porter (rip) and that Canadian pro Fouid or whoever you spell his name said test tops off at around 1 gram to 1.25 grams per week and I've heard other pros on YouTube say the same
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2020, 07:25:29 AM »

Matt porter (rip) and that Canadian pro Fouid or whoever you spell his name said test tops off at around 1 gram to 1.25 grams per week and I've heard other pros on YouTube say the same

What you mean by "tops off"?
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2020, 07:58:21 AM »

What you mean by "tops off"?

Basically that a higher dose gives much less benefits, and 1 to 1.25 grams is the sweet spot for gains and they didn't see much more gains at higher doses
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2020, 01:44:29 PM »

Ah I understand and agree. Thank you
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 02:48:44 PM »

Matt porter (rip) and that Canadian pro Fouid or whoever you spell his name said test tops off at around 1 gram to 1.25 grams per week and I've heard other pros on YouTube say the same

45:45  He discussed test only and a relatively "safe cycle." I think he discussed higher test dosing on on of his podcasts with Luke.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDO6QH4-K28" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDO6QH4-K28</a>




Stupidity I put it down to & The More is Better Principle
Plus Bunk gear.
2 of the Idiots Iím aware of - 1 is quite tall 6ft & lean and always on about getting huge - Yet hasnít changed In over 2yrs. Not particularly Bright.
The other is 45+ & trains chest / shoulders / Arms & around 160lb & not as Bright as the other one. !!
They sometimes train together, if it can be called that. They hoist things should I say.

Ha we could have a whole thread on this.  Cheesy  There is this one guy that goes to one of the gyms I belong to who reminds of those guys. He is an older guy with the high hematocrit beat red face. He is lean/vascular but with a weird gut, and has a thinning marine haircut with way over done black Just For Men color covering the thin top. Not sure what he's on but need to tone it down. Huh
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2020, 02:50:46 PM »

45:45  He discussed test only and a relatively "safe cycle." I think he discussed higher test dosing on on of his podcasts with Luke.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDO6QH4-K28" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDO6QH4-K28</a>



Ha we could have a whole thread on this.  Cheesy  There is this one guy that goes to one of the gyms I belong to who reminds of those guys. He is an older guy with the high hematocrit beat red face. He is lean/vascular but with a weird gut, and has a thinning marine haircut with way over done black Just For Men color covering the thin top. Not sure what he's on but need to tone it down. Huh

Thanks for that vid highlight that's straight to the point brosef

I'm only on 350 mgs prop right now but I thought about blasting it to 700-1 gram or just to keep it at 350 mgs prop and add in either primo or var, so his answer to that q has helped me out so thanks again my man

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2020, 08:57:45 AM »

Gear talk begins at 1:20.  Interesting back and forth.

Luke's off season is 500mg test and maybe 300 primo. Say's he no longer has to push it because he has the size he needs.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JUaxGHuIU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JUaxGHuIU</a>
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2020, 03:59:39 AM »

Gear talk begins at 1:20.  Interesting back and forth.

Luke's off season is 500mg test and maybe 300 primo. Say's he no longer has to push it because he has the size he needs.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JUaxGHuIU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JUaxGHuIU</a>

There is a reason he is a Pro and we all know part of that is response to anabolics, so he may be honest here.
I train with a guy thats 280 and his so-called "off-season cruise" is 800mg/Week. He is a genetic freak!! So this could be very true.
Food is the most important and we all know he eats like a bear.

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2020, 04:48:52 AM »

test dose is true. even the original (and in my opinion the best) steroid guru Dan Duchaine had said that test works great but the cutoff seems to be around 2000 mgs a week  as far as results vs side effects. BUT he said the real gains come with 5000 mgs a week.
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2020, 06:55:25 AM »

test dose is true. even the original (and in my opinion the best) steroid guru Dan Duchaine had said that test works great but the cutoff seems to be around 2000 mgs a week  as far as results vs side effects. BUT he said the real gains come with 5000 mgs a week.

I believe he meant 5grams total of gear... not 5grams of test a week... not 100% sure though.
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2020, 09:34:09 AM »

I believe he meant 5grams total of gear... not 5grams of test a week... not 100% sure though.


Most pros say 1000-1200 mgs is top end dose of test

Even in this recent vid that Mr. White just posted the short guy (forgot his name) said he saw no further benefit from going past 1200 mgs of test size wise (he did say increased mood/aggression but no extra size/mass benefits were obtained)
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2020, 07:01:11 AM »

I just wonder what motivates people to take these crazy amounts.  Huh  


Ramy took 3 gr Tren per week Shocked
And 5 gr Test
And much more...
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2020, 07:16:12 AM »

How much test did guys from the early to mid 90s run?

Pretty sure most were under 1 gram
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2020, 07:55:50 AM »

Ramy took 3 gr Tren per week Shocked
And 5 gr Test
And much more...

Where did you hear this?
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2020, 08:52:58 AM »

Where did you hear this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2nnPTkqKgE
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2020, 10:56:20 AM »


And you Believe That ?
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2020, 07:51:57 AM »

And you Believe That ?

Why not?

I know guys who are doing their first beginners contest and they take:

1000 Test
600 gr Tren
600 Mast
100 Anadrol per day
6 HGH

Can you imagine Big Ramy

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