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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #125 on: March 16, 2020, 01:39:49 PM »
ramys ass has gotten bigger


The picture on the right is a CLOSE UP and only gives that appearance....
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« Reply #126 on: March 16, 2020, 11:18:53 PM »
Foundation does not imply steroid use (which should be obvious.) All the greats spent time in the trenches lifting heavy doing the basics. Eventually they had enough muscle to benefit more from machines but this was after their foundations had been built IE the muscle mass that you never really lose and have the rest of your life.

Wait a minute. This is exactly what you said:

Also I hate to say this but Ramy lacks foundation. Hes part of the new gen of bodybuilding where guys juice and megadose way too early on. 90s guys were soooo much better because back in (my) day we lifted for years because we loved it. Steroids werent supposed to be used until you maxed out your potential at least 5-6 years or more training 110% and hard heavy basic consistent training. It used to be gym pass and whey protein now its steroids or guys wont even go theyll sit at home.

The implication is clear. You argue that he lacks "foundation" because he "juice and megadose way too early on." Now you're saying it's not about steroid use causing this "lack of foundation." As Van argued correctly, so many started hormones while in their teens or after just a year or two of training. Are they all also lacking in "foundation"?

I'm not trying to start a fight but please explain exactly what you mean by lack of foundation. I really don't understand it. Please enlighten me.

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #127 on: March 16, 2020, 11:32:54 PM »
Let see..the IFBB judging criterias are :

    Mass
    Definition
    Proportion
    Symmetry
    Stage Presence

So by the pictures, Ramy loses 4 and win 1 category.  He has mass, yes, but no style at all, symmetry is just as good as those others, no better. His proportions are crap, and his definition is clearly worst to these three. He is smooth, no cuts at all, he has enormous legs and shoulders, but nothing more, so if he would come to the competition as dry as Andreas Munzer, he would still lose by those other points. This is how those judges do their ruling  ;D


Actually, I think Ramy wins 4, and loses 1 to Bonac. More mass of course, much better proportioned (Bonac has narrow shoulders, wide waist, small chest, short and squatty), symmetry as everything matches, each matching muscle is equally proportioned. Even his abs line up perfectly whereas Bonac's does not. And I think Ramy has a very good stage presence. He doesn't dance around like a homo but poses in a classic and dignified way. He's so huge that he commands attention and presence when he walks out.

And "no cuts at all"? No cuts at all! Jeeze. Striated glutes yet no cuts AT ALL. Perfect example of Ramy being judged by very biased and unattainable standards.

No cuts at all? Jeeze.






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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2020, 11:45:37 PM »
Tyranassaurus Ramy is smooth because if he tries lowering his test dose he will vanish. His muscles are fake thats really all there is to it. And LOL at the blind clown who cant look a couple posts back at the pic (for example) of ramy standing relaxed next to dexter with a full 4-5 inches more height yet both their arms are essentially the same length. That pic alone should be enuf but if its not get better glasses.

Blind clown? Already comes the personal insults with someone who just disagrees with you. Again, I'm trying to be patient and not get into fights so I'll let that go and try to have a civil discussion.

Look again at the picture where he is standing next to Dex. Their hands are level with each other yet Ramy's upper arms are a couple of inches higher than Dexter's. More in line with Dex's shoulders. They are not the same length. And if it were so obvious why is it that nobody else has ever pointed out that "glaring" flaw. There are a lot of criticizes of Ramy all over the net but never has he been accuse of T-rex arms.

And I don't wear, nor need, glasses.

And where on earth do you come to the conclusion that a genetically gifted 300+ pounds of muscle will vanish if he lowers his test dose? Have you seen pics of him before he started serious training?


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« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2020, 11:47:43 PM »
I mentioned "heavy" because the guy I responed talked about building a foundation with heavy lifting. The term heavy means so many different things to different people that it's almost meaningless without lots of qualifications. Heavy means lifting so heavy you have to cheat to one guy, to another it simply means low reps and then there are those pros who say "I lift heavy as shit but do tons of reps too" LMAO, that makes no sense whatsoever. But let's say "heavy" simply means hard training in general and that you are putting intensity and effort to the thing. Yes, having a good foundation and good work ethic is important, chemicals or no chemical. However, it's silly the way some oldtimers cry about lack of foundation and no intensity in the new crop of guys. Meanwhile they started juicing at 14-15 years old and then at their peak were squatting maybe 315 for 20 and todays supposed lazy ass kids are banging out sets of 20 with 500lbs still in their teens.
Today's children wannabees are food prepping and counting macros, studying the drugs... I mean that should signal that they are serious, but the response from the oldtimers is to scoff at these new antics. Then they start talking about how kids nowadays are taking things too serious. Back in the day Rich Gaspari was thought a maniac for weighing his spaghetti - nowadays that's something you simply do, nothing to brag about.

So you see how the conversation becomes ridiculous when different generations clash.

The older generation does NOT know more about "stimulating the muscle". They believed a ton of ridiculous things. Like high incline benches would give you split pec line like Franco, or doing concentration curls like Arnold would give you his bicep peaks, absolutely moronic stuff.
Along with the idea of sculpting your body like an artist in the gym, when even someone with half a brain understands body shape/muscle belly shape/separations between muscle, detail and striation, and basic prportions and symmetry has almost nothing to do with training. And no, a 10lbs dumbell will not grow your bicep as much as a 40lbs dumbell, everything else being equal. But you had these oldtimers bragging about their mind-muscle connection, and how they could grow just as well squatting a broomstick because of their superior mind-muscle connection made them so efficient lmao.  :D

Pure gold.

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #130 on: March 16, 2020, 11:50:49 PM »
Wait a minute. This is exactly what you said:

The implication is clear. You argue that he lacks "foundation" because he "juice and megadose way too early on." Now you're saying it's not about steroid use causing this "lack of foundation." As Van argued correctly, so many started hormones while in their teens or after just a year or two of training. Are they all also lacking in "foundation"?

I'm not trying to start a fight but please explain exactly what you mean by lack of foundation. I really don't understand it. Please enlighten me.

I am right and one day this and the reasoning behind it (my rightness) will become clear. Be patient, young grasshopper.

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« Reply #131 on: March 16, 2020, 11:52:28 PM »
I am right and one day this and the reasoning behind it (my rightness) will become clear. Be patient, young grasshopper.

But no actual explanation. It will just come to me in a vision.

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« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2020, 11:57:56 PM »
But no actual explanation. It will just come to me in a vision.

It will come.

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2020, 01:10:45 AM »


You already possess all of knowledge, young grasshopper. Look within, the truth you will find.

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« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2020, 07:09:42 AM »


And where on earth do you come to the conclusion that a genetically gifted 300+ pounds of muscle will vanish if he lowers his test dose? Have you seen pics of him before he started serious training?



there are a few videos of him after he had an injury a few years ago, he looked 215 tops..

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« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2020, 07:16:35 AM »
there are a few videos of him after he had an injury a few years ago, he looked 215 tops..

This guy gets it.

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« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2020, 07:17:47 AM »
also like the mro the arnold which is a high tier contest, should also have the 'freak'factor on size as well with all other criteria to judge by.there are plenty of smaller shows for guys to win/cleanup prize money.

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« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2020, 11:43:00 AM »
Actually, I think Ramy wins 4, and loses 1 to Bonac. More mass of course, much better proportioned (Bonac has narrow shoulders, wide waist, small chest, short and squatty), symmetry as everything matches, each matching muscle is equally proportioned. Even his abs line up perfectly whereas Bonac's does not. And I think Ramy has a very good stage presence. He doesn't dance around like a homo but poses in a classic and dignified way. He's so huge that he commands attention and presence when he walks out.

And "no cuts at all"? No cuts at all! Jeeze. Striated glutes yet no cuts AT ALL. Perfect example of Ramy being judged by very biased and unattainable standards.

No cuts at all? Jeeze.





Actually, no one gives a shit about your thoughts, because you are a well known moron. For example: You try to prove that Smooth Ramy had cuts in Arnold classic 2020 by showing the picture from Mr Olympia 2019? Why don't you link his childhood photos also? Point is that you look those photos and wank, judges look these guys live on stage in real time, and it is a complete different thing. When will you learn this simple thing? Never, because you are unable to learn anything, because you are the moron. Quite simple  ;D

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2020, 07:42:43 PM »
Sorry, the new breed looks like bloated soft muscle.

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« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2020, 09:25:56 PM »
If Chad couldn't use his kidney draining magic to dry him out then we can safely say this is best.

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #141 on: March 18, 2020, 12:37:40 AM »
there are a few videos of him after he had an injury a few years ago, he looked 215 tops..

And you consider a 5'10" 215 pound man as "vanishing".

Even in my pristine prime in my late twenties at 6'2" juiced, I couldn't carry 215 without having a moon face and being a fatso.

Just like when people consider Dorian as being small. Sure when you compare him to the time when he achieved a whole new level of muscle mass but if you didn't know who he was then no way the average person would consider him a small and undeveloped man.

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #142 on: March 18, 2020, 12:44:37 AM »
Actually, no one gives a shit about your thoughts, because you are a well known moron. For example: You try to prove that Smooth Ramy had cuts in Arnold classic 2020 by showing the picture from Mr Olympia 2019? Why don't you link his childhood photos also? Point is that you look those photos and wank, judges look these guys live on stage in real time, and it is a complete different thing. When will you learn this simple thing? Never, because you are unable to learn anything, because you are the moron. Quite simple  ;D

LOL. What meltdown. So mad and offended and immediately jumps into personal insults because someone doesn't agree with your biased viewpoint. You're an idiot. You don't speak for everyone on this board. I posted the side chest pic that was posted before on this thread. If that's not from the Arnold then ignore it. But the second pic is definitely from the Arnold and to say he has no cuts at all and is smooth shows what a moron you are. You've never had abs like that or such separation in your thighs like that in your life and never will. Look at Bonacs abs. Not even close.

And another board phaggot that always has to bring homosexual imagery into anything bbing. What's with you guys that can't get cock out of your mind when looking a bbing photos?

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #143 on: March 18, 2020, 01:01:02 AM »
The bottom line is that Ramy’s last contest was in the fall of 2018. Ramy did not compete at all in 2019.  He had almost 18 months to make some dramatic improvements.

His 2020 Arnold Classic appearance was preceded by weekly videos. We kept hearing about his “death face”, indicating that he was pulling his body weight down for the 2020 season.


He was expected to have made some serious improvements, and he failed in that regard. Ramy knows that he failed, and that’s why he apologized.

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« Reply #144 on: March 18, 2020, 01:39:10 AM »
The bottom line is that Ramy’s last contest was in the fall of 2018. Ramy did not compete at all in 2019.  He had almost 18 months to make some dramatic improvements.

His 2020 Arnold Classic appearance was preceded by weekly videos. We kept hearing about his “death face”, indicating that he was pulling his body weight down for the 2020 season.


He was expected to have made some serious improvements, and he failed in that regard. Ramy knows that he failed, and that’s why he apologized.

Now this is an honest and intelligent assessment. Expectations were high and he was a disappointment. Kamal I had an interesting take regarding Chad's strategy. It's at the end of the vid.


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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #145 on: March 18, 2020, 02:01:29 AM »
Seriously he looked best in 2014 (!!!). Went downhill since then. Whoever thinks Ramy is still a work in progress or his best is yet to come is out of his f*ing mind !!






His waist has grown like 15 '' since then... :-X


Ramys FDB their in 2014 was incredible and that was due too the fact his waist was small in relation too his body weight, like a lot of mass monsters before him...when the waist goes southbound so does the physique his waist has gone past the point of return

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #146 on: March 18, 2020, 03:07:12 AM »
LOL. What meltdown. So mad and offended and immediately jumps into personal insults because someone doesn't agree with your biased viewpoint. You're an idiot. You don't speak for everyone on this board. I posted the side chest pic that was posted before on this thread. If that's not from the Arnold then ignore it. But the second pic is definitely from the Arnold and to say he has no cuts at all and is smooth shows what a moron you are. You've never had abs like that or such separation in your thighs like that in your life and never will. Look at Bonacs abs. Not even close.

And another board phaggot that always has to bring homosexual imagery into anything bbing. What's with you guys that can't get cock out of your mind when looking a bbing photos?

Oh, did I hurt your feelings? I regret the trauma I caused to your tiny little mind, but point is still same: Smooth Ramy lose because he wasn't good enough to win, in the eyes of the judges; not in to eyes of the fan boys who just look at the pictures. Live judging vs. fanboys, and sorry, but you lose all and every time, because you cannot judge these guys by the pictures. You could understand this simple thing if you would have brains, but that is too much to ask from the brat like you. And why I pressume you are wanking at his pictures? Because I know that make homophobic moron like you scream like a little girl  ;D

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Re: Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????
« Reply #147 on: March 18, 2020, 07:40:35 AM »
THE level of muscularity he carries is insane and as long as he is in 'shape'relative to his best or close he will be top 3 threat for some time,until he really slips.and he has good shape ,his legs are on another level maybe too much but still...

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« Reply #148 on: March 18, 2020, 11:44:41 AM »
The worst thing about competing is that you are unable to walk on stage with a virtual sharpening filter in real life.   None of this tank top kitchen light topaz sharpening filter to make you look hard and grainy.

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« Reply #149 on: March 18, 2020, 12:18:33 PM »
The worst thing about competing is that you are unable to walk on stage with a virtual sharpening filter in real life.   None of this tank top kitchen light topaz sharpening filter to make you look hard and grainy.
THIS TOO,,,thats the instagram for ya,you can hide all flaws .for pro's its harder because it makes unrealistic view and hype.