Coronavirus - Some Facts and Daily Statistics - taking it seriously

[joswift]

Please clarify the question.

You have an apple you give it to me, what % of the apple do you have left?

[joswift]

Are you swallowing the apple in its entirety or are you taking bites of the apple?

Irrelevant, the end result is no apple ..

[Al Doggity]

You have an apple you give it to me, what % of the apple do you have left?

eta is it the apple question?

Well, let's take a look at that . You buy an apple that weighs 80 grams.  You eat as much of the apple as you can. The apple has seeds, a core and a stem. So, you eat 100% of what you're able to eat.  But the core, the stem, the seeds are still there. You ate the whole apple, so does that mean there was no waste? Absolutely nothing remained? Or, somehow, less than nothing remained?

In your home, do you leave apple cores lying around the living room because they mathematically don't count as garbage?

[Flexacon]

Irrelevant, the end result is no apple ..

I see I am no match for you. Well played retard Sir

[joswift]

eta is it the apple question?

Well, let's take a look at that . You buy an apple that weighs 80 grams.  You eat as much of the apple as you can. The apple has seeds, a core and a stem. So, you eat 100% of what you're able to eat.  But the core, the stem, the seeds are still there. You ate the whole apple, so does that mean there was no waste? Absolutely nothing remained? Or, somehow, less than nothing remained?

In your home, do you leave apple cores lying around the living room because they mathematically don't count as garbage?

If you have a whole of something then you have nothing of that something you have zero % of it ....

no arguments can eradicate that fact.

[Al Doggity]

If you have a whole of something then you have nothing of that something you have zero % of it ....

no arguments can eradicate that fact.

That's true. But that also doesn't change the fact that %.25 is not zero. Nor is %.1 or %12.8.

You claimed that fractions of percentages don't exist, and that slightly more than zero means less than zero.  That just shows a lack of basic math skills.

[joswift]

That's true. But that also doesn't change the fact that %.25 is not zero. Nor is %.1 or %12.8.

You claimed that fractions of percentages don't exist, and that slightly more than zero means less than zero.  That just shows a lack of basic math skills.

No I didnt, I said they are not useful in certain circumstances...

[Al Doggity]

No I didnt, I said they are not useful in certain circumstances...

Yes, you did.

You cant be left half a % of it

It's clear that you just don't have basic math skills. A fraction of a percent is not less than zero, which is something else you've said several times.  It just means that whatever value you're talking about is less than 1/100th.  When talking about statistics that involve thousands/hundreds of thousands/ millions of people you will inevitably have categories that list fractions of a percent.  And they are still statistically useful.

[joswift]

Yes, you did.

It's clear that you just don't have basic math skills. A fraction of a percent is not less than zero, which is something else you've said several times.  It just means that whatever value you're talking about is less than 1/100th.  When talking about statistics that involve thousands/hundreds of thousands/ millions of people you will inevitably have categories that list fractions of a percent.  And they are still statistically useful.

try and add the full quote for context

the total mass of something is 100% if you take away all that mass you are left with 0%

You cant be left with half a % of it

I used to have a sports teacher who said "I want 110% effort from everyone"
Surprisingly our maths teacher never said it..

[Al Doggity]

try and add the full quote for context

I posted the snippet for brevity. The full quote does not change the context.

I used to have a sports teacher who said "I want 110% effort from everyone"
Surprisingly our maths teacher never said it..

Headline from The Economist:
https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2014/07/16/200-and-counting
China’s debt-to-GDP level 200% and counting


Headline from WSJ:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/immigrant-deportations-climb-150-in-two-years-in-new-york-city-11550785587
Immigrant Deportations Climb 150% in Two Years in New York City


Anybody who reads or watches the news regularly sees percentages greater than 100% used all the time. Maybe you never heard your math teacher say it because you never attended math class?

[joswift]

I posted the snippet for brevity. The full quote does not change the context.

Headline from The Economist:
https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2014/07/16/200-and-counting
China’s debt-to-GDP level 200% and counting


Headline from WSJ:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/immigrant-deportations-climb-150-in-two-years-in-new-york-city-11550785587
Immigrant Deportations Climb 150% in Two Years in New York City


Anybody who reads or watches the news regularly sees percentages greater than 100% used all the time. Maybe you never heard your math teacher say it because you never attended math class?

again, context is everything....

[Al Doggity]

again, context is everything....

No, it's not. There's no context in which you'd be right.

[joswift]

No, it's not. There's no context in which you'd be right.

we have already done it
If you had 100% of an apple and you gave it to me what % of that apple would you have left?

Its zero%

You even tried to elaborate on that by trying to explain pips and corks, "all of something means All of it, not a percentage of it.

[el numero uno]

LOL at 3 pages of someone trying to prove the probability of an event can be negative.

[el numero uno]

0.000001%

the fact remains
if you have a 0% chance of dying then technically you wont die, thats true, but % are % by the governments own figures if you are under 60 you have a less than 0% chance of dying its actually 0.6% which is less that 0%, thats my point

the total mass of something is 100% if you take away all that mass you are left with 0%

You cant be left with half a % of it

0.6% is bigger than 0%.

In a country of 50 million people, it means 300k people would die from the event.

[joswift]

0.6% is bigger than 0%.

In a country of 50 million people, it means 300k people would die from the event.

if you have 0% of an apple and you cut it in half how much of an apple do you have?

[Al Doggity]

0.6% is bigger than 0%.

In a country of 50 million people, it means 300k people would die from the event.

He thinks the 0 before the decimal means  0% and the .6 subtracts from that.

 

[el numero uno]

if you have 0% of an apple and you cut it in half how much of an apple do you have?

Still 0, what's your point?

It can't be less than 0 if that's what you're suggesting.

[joswift]

Still 0, what's your point?

It can't be less than 0 if that's what you're suggesting.

Can you have 0% of an apple?

for all you know 0% of an apple may be 0% of an orange.

[herne]

https://www.brighteon.com/91f524b4-656f-4c46-bab5-01dea4ac1cf1

[el numero uno]

Can you have 0% of an apple?

for all you know 0% of an apple may be 0% of an orange.

0% is a perfectly valid term to describe you have no parts from a whole.

Percentages are relative terms. You specified 0% of an apple, that doesn't equal 0% of something else.

[Primemuscle]

I wonder if he thinks a fraction of a percent means less than 0.

Integers and fractions expressed as minus numbers are less than 0 (-0.002 mean less than 0)

[joswift]

0% is a perfectly valid term to describe you have no parts from a whole.

Percentages are relative terms. You specified 0% of an apple, that doesn't equal 0% of something else.

0% of a whole of anything is nothing..

whats the difference between 50% of an apple and 0.5% of an apple?

[Tapeworm]

Make it stop.

[el numero uno]

0% of a whole of anything is nothing..

Percentages describe the parts of a whole. 0% of an apple is not the same as 0% of something else.

whats the difference between 50% of an apple and 0.5% of an apple?

You're too vague.