Out of Shadows - Documentary on Mainstream Media Manipulation

[Vince B]

The video makes serious allegations about pedophile rings. Liz Crokin spills the beans on important people we all know.

Then it was mentioned that the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin was fabricated so the USA could send troops to Vietnam.

The problem we all have is this. How are we going to investigate the Gulf incident that happened many decades ago?

We can't. We have to rely on the reports of other people. That is simply not good enough.

What about Pizzagate and Pedogate? Well, disgusting rings if true. How are we to find out the truth about them?

Is this documentary sufficient proof? Even if there is some truth how do we know what to believe and what to discard?

Liz Crokin insists good reporters have to check and recheck and recheck sources for authenticity and truth. Well

how are any of us going to do any checking? How does Liz make a living today? So many questions.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

I would watch Trumps entire briefings if I didn't have to make a quick exit to the bathroom to up chuck.

Any pics of you & uncle Adolf from May '45 !.

[Vince B]

Try doing a search for 'Out of Shadows Org' and see what you can find out about them. Seems to be a religious group of patriots.

They urge us to do our own research but when we do this about them we find very little. This makes me very suspicious.

They obviously have an agenda. Who are the two stuntmen making serious comments in the documentary? That info should be

in the description. Otherwise why should we believe what they say?

[Megalodon]

Related, but not directly to the documentary, is an April 13, 2020 theory about Australia's second largest bank, which conspired to allow paedophiles to send money to the Philippines to pay for child abuse material, without raising any red flags.

Westpac's $900 Million fine is Australia's largest-ever civil penalty.

The chief exec and chairman were forced to step down/retire..... but no jail time.......

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-14/westpac-1.4-billion-hit-to-first-half-earnings/12146360

[Vince B]

Anyone who wants to listen to Liz Crokin can find 48 videos on YouTube. She makes allegations but calls them theories so doesn't get charged, etc.

videos

[loco]

Who are the two stuntmen making serious comments in the documentary?

Our resident stuntmovie?

[Megalodon]

The stunt actors are  

Mike Smith: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809371/

and

Brad Martin: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551997/

"Below the line" employees in Hollywood tend to be more conservative and much less controlled by the system.

Interview:

[Dave D]

It wasn't long ago that we debated religion on the forum. Quite illuminating who believes what here. Then we had a debate about UFOs. Goodness me but there are a lot of gullible people here.

Now this silly disjointed video about everything and nothing at all. LSD, CIA, Hollywood, Stuntmen, Satanic cults, etc., etc. Total mishmash aimed at the bottom part of the Bell Curve of IQs.

Are those chemtrails in the sky? What about that array of radio towers in Alaska? 911 an inside job? Moon landing faked. The truthers are an ignorant lot of true believers.

They literally do not have a proper education so are incapable of separating truth from nonsense. If someone has to rely on crap YouTube videos for beliefs they are lost already.

If you are silly enough to pay a charlatan like David Icke money to attend one of his lectures then this is proof you are devoid of good sense.

That is equivalent to hapless lads posting on Getbig about their love life or other problems!

Obviously the people who make these rubbish videos have a lot of followers so we will continue to see more bs in the years to come. They literally have no shame at all.

Those nonsense videos spread like a nasty virus in the ignorant community.

Vince we already know that children can’t learn in school and television and movies won’t influence them so essentially the first 16 or so years of formal education is a complete waste.

But you’re obviously very well read  which begs the question at what age were you able to retain information and begin critical thinking?

Also as you astutely pointed out the documentary is biased. Is this something new that only this show has done? Is all media slanted? Not that it matters because, as you said tv and movies don’t influence children.

How do we learn so we can get a proper education? Is there a particular school that offers the truth? Do we need an Ivy League education? Should we study abroad ?

Vince you obviously are an expert on these topics please help the less educated learn!!

[Vince B]

Vince we already know that children can’t learn in school and television and movies won’t influence them so essentially the first 16 or so years of formal education is a complete waste.

But you’re obviously very well read  which begs the question at what age were you able to retain information and begin critical thinking?

Also as you astutely pointed out the documentary is biased. Is this something new that only this show has done? Is all media slanted? Not that it matters because, as you said tv and movies don’t influence children.

How do we learn so we can get a proper education? Is there a particular school that offers the truth? Do we need an Ivy League education? Should we study abroad ?

Vince you obviously are an expert on these topics please help the less educated learn!!

LOL.

[loco]

Creative Artists Agency LLC or CAA is an American talent and sports agency based in Los Angeles, California. It is regarded as a dominant and influential company in the talent agency business and manages numerous clients.

In December 2017, there were reports that the agency was actively involved in coverups relating to abuse and harassment by disgraced Miramax executive Harvey Weinstein. Variety, citing a report in The New York Times, reported that at least eight agents knew about the ongoing harassment yet continued to do business with Weinstein, and even sent actresses to meet with him in situations where they might have been vulnerable to his predations. Actress Uma Thurman accused the agency of being connected to Weinstein's predatory behavior. In 2005, Courtney Love advised young actresses in an interview, "If Harvey Weinstein invites you to a private party in the Four Seasons, don't go." Love later said that she was "banned" by CAA for speaking out about Weinstein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Artists_Agency#Controversies

Former vice president Joe Biden and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, have signed with CAA in all areas as they move into their post-Obama administration life.
2/10/2017
The agency will support and amplify the Bidens' work in public policy post-White House, helping to build upon their work improving the lives of Americans and others around the world.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/joe-biden-signs-caa-all-areas-974242

Aerial view of CAA headquarters


Google it:
2000 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, Los Angeles, California, United States

[Dave D]

Creative Artists Agency LLC or CAA is an American talent and sports agency based in Los Angeles, California. It is regarded as a dominant and influential company in the talent agency business and manages numerous clients.

In December 2017, there were reports that the agency was actively involved in coverups relating to abuse and harassment by disgraced Miramax executive Harvey Weinstein. Variety, citing a report in The New York Times, reported that at least eight agents knew about the ongoing harassment yet continued to do business with Weinstein, and even sent actresses to meet with him in situations where they might have been vulnerable to his predations. Actress Uma Thurman accused the agency of being connected to Weinstein's predatory behavior. In 2005, Courtney Love advised young actresses in an interview, "If Harvey Weinstein invites you to a private party in the Four Seasons, don't go." Love later said that she was "banned" by CAA for speaking out about Weinstein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Artists_Agency#Controversies

Former vice president Joe Biden and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, have signed with CAA in all areas as they move into their post-Obama administration life.
2/10/2017
The agency will support and amplify the Bidens' work in public policy post-White House, helping to build upon their work improving the lives of Americans and others around the world.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/joe-biden-signs-caa-all-areas-974242

Aerial view of CAA headquarters


Google it:
2000 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, Los Angeles, California, United States

Ok “loco”.

Vince B already explained this. None of it is true.

You must be very simple if you think Hollywood has any influence over the culture. That being said why would the CIA want to be involved with that industry?

The CIA stands for Central Intelligent Agency. They do smart stuff. They operate in the open because they are a well known transparent organization.


The stuntmen who made the doc obviously have an axe to grind. They failed in their career and now they’re lashing out with lies.

They have ZERO credibility, like a bodybuilder winning a show where he picked the judges.

[loco]

Ok “loco”.

Vince B already explained this. None of it is true.

You must be very simple if you think Hollywood has any influence over the culture. That being said why would the CIA want to be involved with that industry?

The CIA stands for Central Intelligent Agency. They do smart stuff. They operate in the open because they are a well known transparent organization.


The stuntmen who made the doc obviously have an axe to grind. They failed in their career and now they’re lashing out with lies.

They have ZERO credibility, like a bodybuilder winning a show where he picked the judges.

You're right.  My bad.   

[Big Karma]

Only the thick and half educated will swallow this shit. What a waste of time watching.

So a Hollywood stuntman gets injured and now is absorbed with figuring the hidden agenda in

governments! Give me a break. He is used to represent the average Joe like our Coach.

Amazing what these simpletons believe. They deserve to sit in a classroom with dunces like Wiggs!

If any of you are or were teachers you know how difficult it is to get things across so students learn.

Imagine the task using TV and movies? Impossible. Total bullshit video.

Coach, I hope this helps.....but, sadly, no amount of shaking his sorry head will help him!

If something is based on deception, then it wouldn't be possible to "teach" it anyway.  The best it could do is to distract from the truth.

[TTfit]

This thread blew up. Who knew it would get this controversial?

[Mothballs]

Aerial view of CAA headquarters


Google it:
2000 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, Los Angeles, California, United States
[/quote]
Are you saying CAA owns the building? Built it? Is the only tenant in the building? Designed the other two triangular buildings? Created the triangle landscape between the three buildings?

Because all of these would be incorrect.

[loco]

Are you saying CAA owns the building? Built it? Is the only tenant in the building? Designed the other two triangular buildings? Created the triangle landscape between the three buildings?

Because all of these would be incorrect.

No

[Megalodon]

There's a conspiracy theory that says some celebrities, like Sandra Bullock, get "penis facials", where certain elements of Asian baby foreskins are injected into their faces.

Who here will say it's false?

[loco]

There's a conspiracy theory that says some celebrities, like Sandra Bullock, get "penis facials", where certain elements of Asian baby foreskins are injected into their faces.

Who here will say it's false?

[stuntmovie]

LOCO, Thanks .....  but NOT me!

I could tell ya lots of  stuff of general interest such as this stuff but then I'd be 'deaded' because lots of stuff about that stuff would merely be a figment of my imagination with big risks possibly involved.

But it does appear that lots of GetBiggers like that kind of risky figment stuff.

The above would only be understood if you happened to be a part of the life that I have participated within.

I would hate to be a part of these Hollywood bad guys again but right now there is an attempt to write a screen-play based on my life-time experiences .... so it's possible that I may be pulled back into this so called Den of Thieves once again.

If that happens, I'll let ya know!

[kreator]

Watched the thing. Nothing will change. What u can do is stop watching movies/news and stop listening to mainstream garbage “music” . Simple.  But most people are too stupid to do that.

[joswift]

There's a conspiracy theory that says some celebrities, like Sandra Bullock, get "penis facials", where certain elements of Asian baby foreskins are injected into their faces.

Who here will say it's false?

there is a risk you could end up cockeyed....

[Megalodon]

there is a risk you could end up cockeyed....

    .... then photo IDs would be considered dick pics.   

[loco]

LOCO, Thanks .....  but NOT me!

I could tell ya lots of  stuff of general interest such as this stuff but then I'd be 'deaded' because lots of stuff about that stuff would merely be a figment of my imagination with big risks possibly involved.

But it does appear that lots of GetBiggers like that kind of risky figment stuff.

The above would only be understood if you happened to be a part of the life that I have participated within.

I would hate to be a part of these Hollywood bad guys again but right now there is an attempt to write a screen-play based on my life-time experiences .... so it's possible that I may be pulled back into this so called Den of Thieves once again.

If that happens, I'll let ya know!

Please do.

[Vince B]

LOCO, Thanks .....  but NOT me!

I could tell ya lots of  stuff of general interest such as this stuff but then I'd be 'deaded' because lots of stuff about that stuff would merely be a figment of my imagination with big risks possibly involved.

But it does appear that lots of GetBiggers like that kind of risky figment stuff.

The above would only be understood if you happened to be a part of the life that I have participated within.

I would hate to be a part of these Hollywood bad guys again but right now there is an attempt to write a screen-play based on my life-time experiences .... so it's possible that I may be pulled back into this so called Den of Thieves once again.

If that happens, I'll let ya know!

Well, Stunt, any comment about the contents of the video? Do you know the stuntmen?

Give us a hint about the theme for the proposed screen play based on your life time experiences.

[Coach is Back!]

  .... then photo IDs would be considered dick pics.   

Weird, I've known her since she was married to Jesse. Disappointing. But at lease it isn't fetuses