US unemployment is actually 25%+? Unemployment filings updated

[denarii]

Any thoughts?

Initiall filings are up to 21m or so and another 3-4m should be recorded as filed in the Thursday number. But perhaps almost half the people who lose jobs/ work are not eligible for insured unemployment benefits. If you add in lost work, underemployed, not eligible, it doesnt take that much to move the actual unemployed number up to 40m or 45m, on a 156m job market. Thats over 25% plus the 4% from before and you are nearly at 33% which is Great Depression levels of unemployment.   

https://www.epi.org/blog/unemployment-filing-failures-new-survey-confirms-that-millions-of-jobless-were-unable-to-file-an-unemployment-insurance-claim/

Do people here have expeience of this or you think that is wildly too high?

[I Sinoda I]

I honestly think that was the number pre-Covid and the current number is much higher.

Its total nonsense to think that the unemployment rate was ever in single digits in the United States.  The number on Disability and Social Security are way higher than you could ever calculate accurately.

Furthermore, most people have useless employment and their jobs should probably be permanently eliminated at this point.  Its amusing that nobody is missing the majority of non-essential workers and that it does not really take much to keep our country running.  The non-essential workers are basically fluff for a poorly thought out economic model based upon ficitious manufactured "constant growth".

[I Sinoda I]

Also, I might add, Unemployment numbers are stupid benchmarks to look for.  The real stats you want are Labor Force Participation Rates.  That will tell you the correct story.

Unemployment Rates are nonsensical.

[Coach is Back!]

I honestly think that was the number pre-Covid and the current number is much higher.

Its total nonsense to think that the unemployment rate was ever in single digits in the United States.  The number on Disability and Social Security are way higher than you could ever calculate accurately.

Furthermore, most people have useless employment and their jobs should probably be permanently eliminated at this point.  Its amusing that nobody is missing the majority of non-essential workers and that it does not really take much to keep our country running.  The non-essential workers are basically fluff for a poorly thought out economic model based upon ficitious manufactured "constant growth".

Wait, so you think the UE numbers were 25% before this glorified flu came along, am I understanding this correctly?

[Necrosis]

Wait, so you think the UE numbers were 25% before this glorified flu came along, am I understanding this correctly?

Glorified flu, lolol.

so dumb.

[Army of One]

Also, I might add, Unemployment numbers are stupid benchmarks to look for.  The real stats you want are Labor Force Participation Rates.  That will tell you the correct story.

Unemployment Rates are nonsensical.

Obviously due to your join date somebody rushed your account through the day after the Adonis thread, so why didnt they just unban you? 

[BBSSchlemiel]

Glorified flu, lolol.

so dumb.

Yes, a glorified flu that killed a few dozen patients at the healthcare facility I worked at.

[Coach is Back!]

Yes, a glorified flu that killed a few dozen patients at the healthcare facility I worked at.

And it still around .003% of the 7.8 billion in the world.

[I Sinoda I]

And it still around .003% of the 7.8 billion in the world.

Is a virus more viable than a fetus?

[Coach is Back!]

Is a virus more viable than a fetus?

You mean when leftists support committing genocide to the time of 600K fetuses per year? Yeah, again, do the math. You’ll never admit this gimmick is Adonis, but if you are, I’ll be in Charlotte in August for the RNC. Would love to best your ass and film it....pedo

[I Sinoda I]

You mean when leftists support committing genocide to the time of 600K fetuses per year? Yeah, again, do the math. You’ll never admit this gimmick is Adonis, but if you are, I’ll be in Charlotte in August for the RNC. Would love to best your ass and film it....pedo

Will you be wearing shoe lifts on this trip?  If a fight were to take place, it would have to be according to Flos Duellatorum circa 1410 because it just would not be fair due to your height.  An advantage would also have to be given to you in some form due to your advanced age and vascular condition.  Perhaps you get to use both hands and your opponent would use the non-dominant hand with the other tied behind the back, for fairness sake.

Either way, Donald Trump JR. follows me on Twitter and not you. LOLOL!

[Coach is Back!]

Will you be wearing shoe lifts on this trip?  If a fight were to take place, it would have to be according to Flos Duellatorum circa 1410 because it just would not be fair due to your height.  An advantage would also have to be given to you in some form due to your advanced age and vascular condition.  Perhaps you get to use both hands and your opponent would use the non-dominant hand with the other tied behind the back, for fairness sake.

Either way, Donald Trump JR. follows me on Twitter and not you. LOLOL!

Don’t worry about my age, height or “vascular condition” It won’t last anymore that a minute or two guaranfuckingteed. If this is Adonis (and you’ll never prove it because 1. Your a gimmick 2. Gimmicks are cowards) but let’s say you are, I’d love nothing more than to beat your pedo ass on camera within a fraction of your life. Also, IF this is Adonis and you can prove it, nothing has changed, I still know EXACTLY where you live and it ain’t by google or anyone that’s told me.

I don’t give a flying fuck who follows you.

[che]

Will you be wearing shoe lifts on this trip?  If a fight were to take place, it would have to be according to Flos Duellatorum circa 1410 because it just would not be fair due to your height.  An advantage would also have to be given to you in some form due to your advanced age and vascular condition.  Perhaps you get to use both hands and your opponent would use the non-dominant hand with the other tied behind the back, for fairness sake.

Either way, Donald Trump JR. follows me on Twitter and not you. LOLOL!

[Bevo]

Wait, so you think the UE numbers were 25% before this glorified flu came along, am I understanding this correctly?

Would you be singing a different tune if it affected you? Or killed your wife or somebody you love?

[OneMoreRep]

Coronavirus is real. It's a worldwide pandemic. Here in the USA we are officially over 1 Million cases.

As per the CDC, as many as 34,000 people died in the 2018-2019 flu season. That's the USA count over the course of a year. Coronavirus has already killed over 60,000 Americans in less than 2 months. How many more would die if given another 10 months to complete a year? This is a serious pandemic.

That aside, gentlemen play nice. We're all adults here and I want all of you alive and healthy to share with your family during the these difficult times.

This place is more fun with all the usual characters.

"1"

[Army of One]

Not being a hater but that wasnt really amusing.While Adonis can frustrate people, superb wit was never his strength.

[che]

Coronavirus is real. It's a worldwide pandemic. Here in the USA we are officially over 1 Million cases.

As per the CDC, as many as 34,000 people died in the 2018-2019 flu season. That's the USA count over the course of a year. Coronavirus has already killed over 60,000 Americans in less than 2 months. How many more would die if given another 10 months to complete a year? This is a serious pandemic.

That aside, gentlemen play nice. We're all adults here and I want all of you alive and healthy to share with your family during the these difficult times.

This place is more fun with all the usual characters.

"1"

60000  that is with social distance ,no school , no sports , no gyms....................

[che]

Not being a hater but that wasnt really amusing.While Adonis can frustrate people, superb wit was never his strength.

You are right ,I'm  sorry  I laughed

[Coach is Back!]

Would you be singing a different tune if it affected you? Or killed your wife or somebody you love?

You’re right, but the odds of dying from a flying golf ball in the middle of the pacific are greater than dying of this

[Bevo]

You’re right, but the odds of dying from a flying golf ball in the middle of the pacific are greater than dying of this

You might be right, but my friends dad did die from it. He had no underlying illnesses and was healthy for someone that worked out, and did 5k’s

On a side note Newsom just ordered to close all beaches and parks again

[keanu]

With limited testing available and many countries flat out lying about the number of infections / death (North Korea 0 cases reported , a great example) who knows what the infection / death ratio really is. My neighbor at 68, appearing healthy for his age just died of it. He just got antibiotics for the pneumonia , some oxygen, and headache medication. Lasted 8 days after diagnosis.

[Coach is Back!]

You might be right, but my friends dad did die from it. He had no underlying illnesses and was healthy for someone that worked out, and did 5k’s

On a side note Newsom just ordered to close all beaches and parks again

I seriously sorry about your friends dad, really. As far as Newsom, we’re actually discussing that on my FB page and all of our community boards on FB.

It was prompted when our county supervisor interrupted an interview with Newsom and a local TV network. Our supervisor said that there was a county supervisor vote that was a 5-2 vote to keep the beaches open. Obviously this didn’t set well with Newsom and that was his response to the vote. Vindictive to the state

[denarii]

For most people Corona is basially nothing. But for perhaps 0.5% of otherwise healthy people it starts to overwhelm them and its very serious and they end up in hospital on heavy treatment. Then there are the people on deaths door anyway that get finished off same as flu.
With the healthcare workers dying, some die every year, but setting that aside, I guess being around Corona every day, it increases the chance they get an inflection bad enough to overwhelm their immune systems.

[IroNat]

There are so many "essential" businesses still in operation that it's a joke.

The traffic on one of the main roads near me is very busy with trucks and cars.

Only schools and small mom & pop, non-food businesses have really been shuttered.  Even liquor stores are open.

The lawn care guys are out in force while your local roofer is forced to be idle.  Idiotic.  My neighbor the plumber is busy fixing pipes.  He gets to work but the roofer can't?  A leaky pipe gets fixed but a leaky roof does not?  Idiotic.

So much of our economy is for foolish, non-essential crap that gets people in debt.

[kilsong]

I see Coach is still a Jesus freak moron.
Go away old man..go away.