Is it worth being ripped but look normal in a shirt?

[m8]

Face is king.

Just be Alain Delon

[Board_SHERIF]

at the beach/pools lean gets the looks and attention, all other times big gets the attention.
when sex time lean wins.
its a toss up.

[Kwon]

Just be Alain Delon

LOL


You'd have to be REALLY special to be filmed for that long, JUST WALKING!

[harmankardon1]

at the beach/pools lean gets the looks and attention, all other times big gets the attention.
when sex time lean wins.
its a toss up.

True...^

it is a fact that in clothes you look small when very lean, people even think your sick sometimes, the only solution is to wear super tight clothes. But that can be a douche look itself.

That's the issue there are pros and cons either way, if you can be lean without torturing yourself and you carry some muscle that's the best but how many people fall into these two groups, not many!

[IroNat]

Extremely good looks or sexual attractiveness is a curse for both men and women.

[Humble Narcissist]

Extremely good looks or sexual attractiveness is a curse for both men and women.

Explain.

[Kwon]

Extremely good looks or sexual attractiveness is a curse for both men and women.

Don't explain!

[Teutonic Knight 1]

True...^

it is a fact that in clothes you look small when very lean, people even think your sick sometimes, the only solution is to wear super tight clothes. But that can be a douche look itself.

That's the issue there are pros and cons either way, if you can be lean without torturing yourself and you carry some muscle that's the best but how many people fall into these two groups, not many!

If you on Bondi beach (Sydney) with 5000 others nobody cares ...............10 guys do pull ups on Bondi outdoor gym & they attract a very small crowd .........remember times when Terry Mitsos (Mr.AU/Mr.World) & his 8 Greeks would pose on the beach ..........

[Atlas pump]

None care if youre jacked.

Have a moderately athletic physique.

Wallet and petsonality trumps all else.

Face gets you the date. Truth hurts!

[pellius]

None care if youre jacked.

Have a moderately athletic physique.

Wallet and petsonality trumps all else.

Face gets you the date. Truth hurts!

I don't know why this topic keeps coming up. Every adult that isn't self-deluded knows what you just said here is true.

[Army of One]

Just be Alain Delon

Boneless cuck

[harmankardon1]

Boneless cuck

X2

He's a puss..

[IroNat]

Don't explain!

Right.

[m8]

Boneless cuck

He had universal appeal, charisma and not just attractive to male lookism users obsessed with fwhr and overdeveloped jaws from the male models of today. God-tier eyes and coloring IMO. His prime was very short though, he really aged like shit with all the smoking, drinking and too much tanning.

[Earl1972]

if you're good looking being lean is better

if your face is average or worse being bulked is better, at least this way people respect you for looking strong, nothing to gain by being lean when you look small in clothes and your lean face still looks like shit

E

[Board_SHERIF]

if you're good looking being lean is better

if your face is average or worse being bulked is better, at least this way people respect you for looking strong, nothing to gain by being lean when you look small in clothes and your lean face still looks like shit

E

what about sex time? it changes what you said slightly

[Earl1972]

what about sex time? it changes what you said slightly

the average/ugly face bulked guy isn't getting a girl in bed based on his looks, it's based on his demeanor and the respect he gets from people

E

[Teutonic Knight 1]

the average/ugly face bulked guy isn't getting a girl in bed based on his looks, it's based on his demeanor and the respect he gets from people

E

Bulldast ,  people don't give a shit about bulky guys ..............thats old thinking.

Slim-sporty guys get models & the best looking girls.

[Earl1972]

Bulldast ,  people don't give a shit about bulky guys ..............thats old thinking.

Slim-sporty guys get models & the best looking girls.

people don't give a shit about lean body lean average/ugly face

E

[pellius]

people don't give a shit about lean body lean average/ugly face

E

Funny, a girl just asked me a few weeks ago if are there any men left over 30 that doesn't have a pot belly. She's right, too. Clothes hid a lot but since she said that I've been noticing that every man I've seen in the last week or so had a pot belly. They're not fat and because they are not tucking in their shirt it's hard to tell. But if you look, then it's obvious. That old belly just spilling out. It's really not a surprise when you think about it. I'm sure the vast majority reading this post, who presumably work out or have worked out and are aware of these things, have a gut spilling over their belt. Imagine what it's like for the coffee and donut crowd that doesn't give a second thought to these things.

And, yes, it does matter.

[Hypertrophy]

Funny, a girl just asked me a few weeks ago if are there any men left over 30 that doesn't have a pot belly. She's right, too.

And, yes, it does matter.

As you get older you do see most of your male counterparts getting way out of shape unless they have an exercise habit. I have bicycled and lifted weights since I was 14 and never stopped, simply because I love it. At worst i got 20 pounds overweight at times - mostly due to work commitments where I literally had zero time to exercise the way i wanted. But those periods were brief and I always got back into it quickly.

The thing with women is they really don't know what they fuck they want. But having money is probably the most important factor. I have seen time and time again hot women with out of shape fat guys.  The eye candy guys who don't have money get treated like disposable items, just like a slutty woman would be.

I work out and stay fit for me. I don't care if anyone finds it attractive or not attractive. At the end of the day you need to find your own inner peace. Mine comes from feeling fit.

[The Scott]

As you get older you do see most of your male counterparts getting way out of shape unless they have an exercise habit. I have bicycled and lifted weights since I was 14 and never stopped, simply because I love it. At worst i got 20 pounds overweight at times - mostly due to work commitments where I literally had zero time to exercise the way i wanted. But those periods were brief and I always got back into it quickly.

The thing with women is they really don't know what they fuck they want. But having money is probably the most important factor. I have seen time and time again hot women with out of shape fat guys.  The eye candy guys who don't have money get treated like disposable items, just like a slutty woman would be.

I work out and stay fit for me. I don't care if anyone finds it attractive or not attractive. At the end of the day you need to find your own inner peace. Mine comes from feeling fit.

Well stated and the last paragraph is an excellent summation for all who train.  Do it for yourself and the benefits will prove worth the effort.  Again, well stated sir.

[pellius]

As you get older you do see most of your male counterparts getting way out of shape unless they have an exercise habit. I have bicycled and lifted weights since I was 14 and never stopped, simply because I love it. At worst i got 20 pounds overweight at times - mostly due to work commitments where I literally had zero time to exercise the way i wanted. But those periods were brief and I always got back into it quickly.

The thing with women is they really don't know what they fuck they want. But having money is probably the most important factor. I have seen time and time again hot women with out of shape fat guys.  The eye candy guys who don't have money get treated like disposable items, just like a slutty woman would be.

I work out and stay fit for me. I don't care if anyone finds it attractive or not attractive. At the end of the day you need to find your own inner peace. Mine comes from feeling fit.

Money and power is always going to be number one with women but being in shape is still icing on the cake. If you had twins both billionaires, same personality, but one is in shape -- he wins.

Being in shape is not a deal maker or breaker but it is an advantage. Similar to height but even less so. Few woman want men shorter than they are.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

people don't give a shit about lean body lean average/ugly face

E

Do you TOO , hunt in tropics when is snowing up north !.

Guess why top Euro models love Christmas in super warm climate of Polynesia/South East Asia !.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

LOL


You'd have to be REALLY special to be filmed for that long, JUST WALKING!

Imagine number of models at Cote d'Azur,Monte Carlo or Cannes he bonked ........................ ......