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NickEdge779

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How To Manage Diabetes While on Growth Hormone?
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:06:09 PM »
I started using GH recently and I also have diabetes, and have noticed that about 2-4 hours post GH injection, I am almost completely insulin resistant, when I take my insulin with my meals, it basically doesn't work, or it works at about only 50% effectiveness and my blood sugars skyrocket to 300+ 2 hours post meal consumption, so basically HGH is making my blood sugars hard to manage about 2-4 hours post injection which messes with my eating schedule. Do you think injecting HGH before bed would be the best strategy because I won't be eating or taking any insulin at that time?

For example:

10am - HGH shot
11am - Lunch
1 pm (2 hours post meal) My blood sugar is 350 (should be back down to below 150ish because of my insulin)

Insulin is ineffective or half as effective in some unknown time interval (I estimate 2-4 hours) post HGH injection

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Re: How To Manage Diabetes While on Growth Hormone?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2019, 04:39:13 PM »
First... because you are already diabetic (I presume Type 1) you really should not be messing with HGH, even if you are taking it in a fasted state.

You make no mention of what you fasted blood glucose levels are and you make no mention of any other insulins you may be taking in addition to your meal time insulin.

Increased endogenous glucose production, decreased muscle glucose uptake and rising blood glucose levels are definitely problems you will see right out of the gates! These signs are NOT GOOD for any diabetic. HGH causes insulin resistance, and since your pancreas is already dead or close to it, HGH will only and certainly make your reading very high... just like you state.

What I find interesting is how HGH increases IGF-1 output. IGF-1 is insulin-mimetic in its structure and perhaps there is an issue there that is messing with things as well, not to mention that your insulin resistance being enhanced by HGH is totally killing the GLUT1 and GLUT4 benefits and the cascading effects they have that promote muscle growth.

If I was you, I would avoid HGH.

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Re: How To Manage Diabetes While on Growth Hormone?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2019, 06:47:53 AM »
I started using GH recently and I also have diabetes, and have noticed that about 2-4 hours post GH injection, I am almost completely insulin resistant, when I take my insulin with my meals, it basically doesn't work, or it works at about only 50% effectiveness and my blood sugars skyrocket to 300+ 2 hours post meal consumption, so basically HGH is making my blood sugars hard to manage about 2-4 hours post injection which messes with my eating schedule. Do you think injecting HGH before bed would be the best strategy because I won't be eating or taking any insulin at that time?

For example:

10am - HGH shot
11am - Lunch
1 pm (2 hours post meal) My blood sugar is 350 (should be back down to below 150ish because of my insulin)

Insulin is ineffective or half as effective in some unknown time interval (I estimate 2-4 hours) post HGH injection

How much HGH are you taking?

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Re: How To Manage Diabetes While on Growth Hormone?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2019, 05:49:52 PM »
First... because you are already diabetic (I presume Type 1) you really should not be messing with HGH, even if you are taking it in a fasted state.

You make no mention of what you fasted blood glucose levels are and you make no mention of any other insulins you may be taking in addition to your meal time insulin.

Increased endogenous glucose production, decreased muscle glucose uptake and rising blood glucose levels are definitely problems you will see right out of the gates! These signs are NOT GOOD for any diabetic. HGH causes insulin resistance, and since your pancreas is already dead or close to it, HGH will only and certainly make your reading very high... just like you state.

What I find interesting is how HGH increases IGF-1 output. IGF-1 is insulin-mimetic in its structure and perhaps there is an issue there that is messing with things as well, not to mention that your insulin resistance being enhanced by HGH is totally killing the GLUT1 and GLUT4 benefits and the cascading effects they have that promote muscle growth.

If I was you, I would avoid HGH.


Great advice thank you very much man! I will stop HGH use, I had only been using it for about 3 weeks, just sucks to throw out the rest of it with it being so expensive, I had bought enough for 3 months at 4IU a day

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Re: How To Manage Diabetes While on Growth Hormone?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2020, 11:19:49 PM »
A growth hormone gene that had an unintended effect on insulin production in mice has been hailed as a key variable in diabetes research.
Researchers at KU Leve, Belgium, expected the DNA of a human growth hormone, inserted alongside other modified DNA, to remain encapsulated tightly in the modified DNA of a mouse.
However, the mice began producing their own growth hormone, with pregnancy-like symptoms observed despite the mice not being pregnant to sleep better with https://afinil.com/modafinil-with-alcohol/ while you are going with alco .
These symptoms were due to the human growth hormone, according to KU Leven professor Professor Frans Schuit, which had the same effect as hormones that are produced in pregnant mice by the placenta. These findings have further reaching consequences for diabetes.
Unexpected turn
“Just as in pregnancy, the cells in the pancreas that are responsible for the production of insulin change. They increase in number and begin to produce more insulin. And that happens to be exactly what we study in diabetes research,” explained Schuit.
The researchers now believe the results of around 250 published studies on genetically modified mice need to be reinterpreted to assess the effect of the human growth hormone, and how it influences insulin production.
“We have to continue verifying our methods with a critical eye with, even if it means that research advances at a slower pace,” Schuit added. “For diabetes research, this unexpected turn is an important step forward. Now that the haze around the artificial growth hormone has been cleared, scientists can plan future research with a clear vision.”

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Re: How To Manage Diabetes While on Growth Hormone?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2020, 07:17:31 AM »
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A growth hormone gene that had an unintended effect on insulin production in mice has been hailed as a key variable in diabetes research.
Researchers at KU Leve, Belgium, expected the DNA of a human growth hormone, inserted alongside other modified DNA, to remain encapsulated tightly in the modified DNA of a mouse.
However, the mice began producing their own growth hormone, with pregnancy-like symptoms observed despite the mice not being pregnant.
These symptoms were due to the human growth hormone, according to KU Leven professor Professor Frans Schuit, which had the same effect as hormones that are produced in pregnant mice by the placenta. These findings have further reaching consequences for diabetes.

It's actually a valid point.