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Re: Please watch this video of Thomas Sowell destroying Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2020, 04:29:07 AM »
Ah, Thomas Sowell, every white “conservative’s” favorite black guy, the black guy who’s “not like that,” and “who you’d rather live next to” instead of “the white trash guy on meth”.

Yawn..

Your Ma's favorite black guy is the Tan-Ten-Ten Tanny that Big Lenny shares w/ her.

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Re: Please watch this video of Thomas Sowell destroying Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2020, 04:55:00 AM »
Ah, Thomas Sowell, every white “conservative’s” favorite black guy, the black guy who’s “not like that,” and “who you’d rather live next to” instead of “the white trash guy on meth”.

Yawn..
So, what points do you disagree with him on in that video?

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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2020, 05:18:50 AM »
You’re my second favorite poster here and as intelligent as you are, my point went right over your head. I’m surprised.

Well thank you but I am NOT intelligent believe me.  I normally get tongue in cheek (if that's what I missed) but not always.  The quotation marks might be a clue but to be honest there are plenty of times I have to ask for help understanding some stuff.  Next time I'll call one of my brothers to have them help me out.

Time to get going.  It's radiology day again!

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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2020, 12:57:51 PM »
Is there anybody here from Canada or Britain that had to have surgery? If so, what kind of surgery and how long did you have to wait to get that surgery?

From uk as you know and have had complete removal of large intestine and reconstruction surgery do they could connect guts back together avoiding having to have a bag, the scheduled the surgery to suit my work schedule putting it back a month or so till the winter. Care was second to none, a brilliant man and surgeon an Irish fella called fintan Bergen shook my hand and promised me my life back, after the first surgery I was in hospital just over a week and he visited me and his other patients every single day even the days he didn’t work and the care from the nurses were great, it still boggles my mind that none of this cost me a single penny

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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2020, 01:01:21 PM »
From uk as you know and have had complete removal of large intestine and reconstruction surgery do they could connect guts back together avoiding having to have a bag, the scheduled the surgery to suit my work schedule putting it back a month or so till the winter. Care was second to none, a brilliant man and surgeon an Irish fella called fintan Bergen shook my hand and promised me my life back, after the first surgery I was in hospital just over a week and he visited me and his other patients every single day even the days he didn’t work and the care from the nurses were great, it still boggles my mind that none of this cost me a single penny
The doctor just wanted to run his fingers through the hairy chest, Henda.  No homo

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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2020, 01:30:54 PM »
The doctor just wanted to run his fingers through the hairy chest, Henda.  No homo

Haha id imagine he had a stroke of it and perhaps briefly cuddled into it while I was out mate

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2020, 01:39:51 PM »
From uk as you know and have had complete removal of large intestine and reconstruction surgery do they could connect guts back together avoiding having to have a bag, the scheduled the surgery to suit my work schedule putting it back a month or so till the winter. Care was second to none, a brilliant man and surgeon an Irish fella called fintan Bergen shook my hand and promised me my life back, after the first surgery I was in hospital just over a week and he visited me and his other patients every single day even the days he didn’t work and the care from the nurses were great, it still boggles my mind that none of this cost me a single penny

Glad it went well
I on the other hand had a fucking nightmare, almost died during routine kidney stone removal spent 19 days in hospital treated like shit

And by the way, you did pay for it, the NHS is funded by your taxes..

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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2020, 01:49:08 PM »
Glad it went well
I on the other hand had a fucking nightmare, almost died during routine kidney stone removal spent 19 days in hospital treated like shit

And by the way, you did pay for it, the NHS is funded by your taxes..

Sorry to hear yours went so bad mate I hear care can vary massively from hospital to hospital

I know we pay for it in our taxes mate but I’d imagine it would have cost a massive amount for the operation and the after care if had to pay it in one go

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2020, 01:53:18 PM »
The problem is that liberals lack the intellect to understand a man like Sowell.

Liberals have no ability to speak to FACTS - facts proven throughout history. Most liberals are simply societies failures. Look at Hollywood - VERY few actors were not total losers in school. That’s why they so desperately crave attention.

Pray 4 - you could post hours of Sowell and Friedman - and the ultra liberal mind simply is incapable of understanding.

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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2020, 01:56:22 PM »
The problem is that liberals lack the intellect to understand a man like Sowell.

Liberals have no ability to speak to FACTS - facts proven throughout history. Most liberals are simply societies failures. Look at Hollywood - VERY few actors were not total losers in school. That’s why they so desperately crave attention.

Pray 4 - you could post hours of Sowell and Friedman - and the ultra liberal mind simply is incapable of understanding.
Truth.

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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2020, 02:24:43 PM »
Ah, Thomas Sowell, every white “conservative’s” favorite black guy, the black guy who’s “not like that,” and “who you’d rather live next to” instead of “the white trash guy on meth”.

Yawn..

I know what you mean about that.  When people cherry-pick some nice Black guy and use it as "evidence" that racial diversity is somehow a workable model.

Thomas Sowell may well be the best economist in the world in terms of putting complicated economic concepts into simple terms.  There may be more brilliant economists out there, but I have yet to see one who quite has his ability to take complex - and very much despised - economic subject matter and making it digestible for the masses.

That's really my reason for being such a fan of Thomas Sowell.

As for the dumb shits who cherry-pick lone examples from groups to somehow use as "evidence" of group level equality...these people are dumb shits, and almost always liberal, rather than conservative, from a left-right perspective.

Dumb people, whoever they are.  The very fact that they are using anecdotal evidence to prove their points about group averages, prove how moronic they are.  ::)

I like how Fortress put it "I judge individuals as individuals and groups as groups."

EXACTLY!

You're walking down a dark alley at night.  You have one of two paths to take - one has a young able-bodied male coming towards you, and the other has an elderly disabled female coming towards you.

Which path do you take?

If you said the one with the elderly disabled female - CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE AGIST AND SEXIST!!!  You probably also use disability status as a way to judge or treat people, either positively or negatively, but that's not the point.  The point is, you judge people based on the group they belong to, and the ONLY difference between you and me is a difference of degree.

It's nobody's business BUT MINE if I want nothing to do with "racial diversity", and just want to live in a 99% White neighbourhood like every White liberal piece of shit in North America.  NOBODY'S BUSINESS BUT MINE.

But to anyone who disagrees with me, please - PROVE ME WRONG, by moving in a neighbourhood filled with the groups of people you think are being judged poorly by other people.  DO IT.  I would LOVE if all White leftists did that.  LOVE IT.

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Re: Please watch this video of Thomas Sowell destroying Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2020, 05:46:01 PM »
From uk as you know and have had complete removal of large intestine and reconstruction surgery do they could connect guts back together avoiding having to have a bag, the scheduled the surgery to suit my work schedule putting it back a month or so till the winter. Care was second to none, a brilliant man and surgeon an Irish fella called fintan Bergen shook my hand and promised me my life back, after the first surgery I was in hospital just over a week and he visited me and his other patients every single day even the days he didn’t work and the care from the nurses were great, it still boggles my mind that none of this cost me a single penny


That's good to hear. Was that considered an emergency time-sensitive procedure? My impression is the long waits are for non-life threatening procedures like MRIs, joint replacement....

On a side note, why on earth did you have to get your whole large intestine removed? And how has that effected your health and life style? My assumption is that you only have the small intestine part. What takes care of the job that is done by the large intestine?

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2020, 11:49:35 PM »

That's good to hear. Was that considered an emergency time-sensitive procedure? My impression is the long waits are for non-life threatening procedures like MRIs, joint replacement....

On a side note, why on earth did you have to get your whole large intestine removed? And how has that effected your health and life style? My assumption is that you only have the small intestine part. What takes care of the job that is done by the large intestine?

You are right mate the long waits are for the non life threatening operations, the doctor never specified how urgent mine was other than saying he would rather it done sooner rather than later

Had to have it removed as had colitis since was 13 and once in mid 20s the doctor informed me that long term colitis carries an increased risk of turning into bowel cancer and going forward will have to have camera test with biopsy every year and after a few years of this biopsy showed pre cancerous cell changes so intestine was removed as preventative measure. Other than feeling thirsty a lot (large intestine absorbs water) and cannot absorb salt too well so need to eat extra everything is fine I feel great and wish I’d had the surgery years earlier, they create a makeshift bowel with the end of your small intestine and although this avoids the need for a bag it doesent function entirely like a large intestine mainly for the water and salt as mentioned above

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Re: Please watch this video of Thomas Sowell destroying Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2020, 12:07:51 AM »
You are right mate the long waits are for the non life threatening operations, the doctor never specified how urgent mine was other than saying he would rather it done sooner rather than later

Had to have it removed as had colitis since was 13 and once in mid 20s the doctor informed me that long term colitis carries an increased risk of turning into bowel cancer and going forward will have to have camera test with biopsy every year and after a few years of this biopsy showed pre cancerous cell changes so intestine was removed as preventative measure. Other than feeling thirsty a lot (large intestine absorbs water) and cannot absorb salt too well so need to eat extra everything is fine I feel great and wish I’d had the surgery years earlier, they create a makeshift bowel with the end of your small intestine and although this avoids the need for a bag it doesent function entirely like a large intestine mainly for the water and salt as mentioned above

But it doesn't effect the absorption of nutrients?

I've never had to wait long to get any kind of treatment: MRIs, surgeries... it's pretty much when I want it. I'd say you can get pretty much anything within two weeks. I was able to get an MRI the next day and my knee replacement within a couple of weeks but I wanted to wait a month when it was more convenient. Also, my insurance covered everything. A friend of mine in Canada said he had to wait nine months for his surgery.

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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2020, 12:08:46 AM »
But it doesn't effect the absorption of nutrients?

Not that I know of mate I’ve never had any obvious deficiencies or at least haven’t felt like I have

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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2020, 12:17:56 PM »
But it doesn't effect the absorption of nutrients?

I've never had to wait long to get any kind of treatment: MRIs, surgeries... it's pretty much when I want it. I'd say you can get pretty much anything within two weeks. I was able to get an MRI the next day and my knee replacement within a couple of weeks but I wanted to wait a month when it was more convenient. Also, my insurance covered everything. A friend of mine in Canada said he had to wait nine months for his surgery.

Yep - I would say that's standard here for someone with cancer who needs surgery.  That's how long my friend's grandfather had to wait - and he had cancer.  He still had to wait nine months for surgery.

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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2020, 05:02:44 PM »
Whereas you'll wait forever under a for profit system if you can't pay for what you need.

Not saying profit motivated systems are bad. Some very good and necessary things get produced which otherwise wouldn't. But it's hard for me to ignore that, if I ran an insurance company, my ideal customer would be one who pays me all his life while healthy and then maybe doesn't get the test or procedure he needs in good time and  :'( doesn't get to have his expensive years. And I have to make that happen because if my competition does and I don't then I'm out of business, so there's that unfortunate "race to the bottom" thing that happens.

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« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2020, 12:30:28 AM »
Whereas you'll wait forever under a for profit system if you can't pay for what you need.

Not saying profit motivated systems are bad. Some very good and necessary things get produced which otherwise wouldn't. But it's hard for me to ignore that, if I ran an insurance company, my ideal customer would be one who pays me all his life while healthy and then maybe doesn't get the test or procedure he needs in good time and  :'( doesn't get to have his expensive years. And I have to make that happen because if my competition does and I don't then I'm out of business, so there's that unfortunate "race to the bottom" thing that happens.

Every system has to make a profit of it won't be sustained. Nobody is, or can, work for free.

When you have an HMO the doctors are paid first. Similar to car insurance. You pay first, and if you need to have something fix then they charge you. So in other words, the less you do the more money you keep. In a PPO, the doctors don't get paid until they actually do something. I had both. When I had an HMO I had to wait weeks to get an MRI, the doctor in my group meet once a week and go over recommended procedures and decide whether you need it our not. There are a lot of procedure they have to review. Then, again once a week, they meet to review test results and decide whether you really need and operation or whatever treatment is recommend. After my MRI was approved I had to wait another few weeks before I got an approval for my surgery and then a few more weeks to get the procedure. This is how a government run universal heath care will be except far more red tape, waste, and corruption that is inherent in anything government run and as an organization gets bigger and bigger.

With a PPO nobody gets paid until they give you treatment. For my second knee injury I saw my doctor in two day, got my MRI in three days, and got my surgery the next week waiting about four days.

The vast majority of human behavior is based on incentives and restraints. With universal health care the incentive is to do the least amount as possible. With the PPO model the incentive is to do as much as you can as fast as you can. You have to pay more but you get more too.

I don't have a problem with HMOs or a universal health care program being available but I think you should have a choice. Under the universal health care program everybody is forced to participlate you can't even get treatment if you want to pay cash money right out of your own pocket.

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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2020, 02:45:46 AM »
Ah, Thomas Sowell, every white “conservative’s” favorite black guy, the black guy who’s “not like that,” and “who you’d rather live next to” instead of “the white trash guy on meth”.


He seems like a good guy,
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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2020, 11:36:45 AM »
Is there anybody here from Canada or Britain that had to have surgery? If so, what kind of surgery and how long did you have to wait to get that surgery?

Torn bicep and meniscus. Also gyno surgery. Never waited longer than a week for all the surgeries.

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« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2020, 12:51:27 AM »
Torn bicep and meniscus. Also gyno surgery. Never waited longer than a week for all the surgeries.

Was this in Canada? I would consider a torn bicep urgent but not so much meniscus and especially gyno. And this was under the universal health care system? What years are we talking about?

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Was this in Canada? I would consider a torn bicep urgent but not so much meniscus and especially gyno. And this was under the universal health care system? What years are we talking about?

Yes. In Canada. Yes to your second question. 3 years ago for bicep and knee. Last year for gyno.  Gyno surgery wasn't that great.

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Every system has to make a profit of it won't be sustained. Nobody is, or can, work for free.

When you have an HMO the doctors are paid first. Similar to car insurance. You pay first, and if you need to have something fix then they charge you. So in other words, the less you do the more money you keep. In a PPO, the doctors don't get paid until they actually do something. I had both. When I had an HMO I had to wait weeks to get an MRI, the doctor in my group meet once a week and go over recommended procedures and decide whether you need it our not. There are a lot of procedure they have to review. Then, again once a week, they meet to review test results and decide whether you really need and operation or whatever treatment is recommend. After my MRI was approved I had to wait another few weeks before I got an approval for my surgery and then a few more weeks to get the procedure. This is how a government run universal heath care will be except far more red tape, waste, and corruption that is inherent in anything government run and as an organization gets bigger and bigger.

With a PPO nobody gets paid until they give you treatment. For my second knee injury I saw my doctor in two day, got my MRI in three days, and got my surgery the next week waiting about four days.

The vast majority of human behavior is based on incentives and restraints. With universal health care the incentive is to do the least amount as possible. With the PPO model the incentive is to do as much as you can as fast as you can. You have to pay more but you get more too.

I don't have a problem with HMOs or a universal health care program being available but I think you should have a choice. Under the universal health care program everybody is forced to participlate you can't even get treatment if you want to pay cash money right out of your own pocket.
This is what leftists always forget about........incentive. 

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