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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2020, 12:41:54 AM »
It's very "normal" for HIV/AIDS patients to sell their prescription drugs to buy illicit drugs instead. And the MECCA of bodybuilding is how far from Skid Row?

That actually makes sense.  I'm just trying to think...why would there be a black market version of a drug that relatively few people are prescribed?  It wouldn't seem like demand would be that high.  So somehow acquiring the genuine article makes more sense, so...yeah, I guess networking with gays or dealing with mutual friends would be how that works out.

Not as if all bodybuilders use every single rare bodybuilding accessory drug out there...but I would bet that more than a handful of pros use MEGACE, or have at least done so at some point in their careers.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2020, 12:55:11 AM »
Farah is an absolute joke, he seems to think he's a doctor pretty much. Supposedly he's married to an MD and hospital director of some sort. If anyone knows if this is factual, let me know. Can't trust anything these guys say.

Anyway, if you watch Farah's videos here's what he says:

Lots of steroids are bad.
Insulin: bad, stay away
GH: bad
High IGF-1 bad (even as a result of dairy)
High protein: bad
Meat: bad, eat seeds and grains instead
Sugar: killer, causes cancer
Bodybuilding: unimportant, lots of other things are more important

But do his athletes follow this advice? Of course not, so what's the purpose with all this, who is it aimed at? Why does he still coach bodybuilders then?

Other industry insiders have said George is well known for his trenbolone brews.

This other pro coach, Bleu Taylor, told the story of how he was secretly prepping some guy who George Farah thought he was prepping. Farah gives the guy a Lasix at a show but Bleu says to throw it in the trash. Farah thinks the guy took the Lasix and says, "see, this is how good you look when your coach knows what he's doing".

Lol.

I seem to recall a story about George Farah claiming to coach the 2009 Middleweight or Light-Heavyweight Nationals champion, but that the story was completely fabricated.  He was accused of a lot of shady stories like that in his initial rise to be a bodybuilding guru.  Then next thing you know, he has a column in MD.  Who reads MD?  Well - anyone interested in building muscle would be a potential reader, so that ultimately led to The Rock reading his column, and I think Farah was the diet guru for The Rock for the movie Pain and Gain [2013].  There was a picture of Farah with The Rock, and he posted a vague message with it along the lines of "Guess who I'm currently advising on diet?"

But I don't think he answered the question...just posted the photo, which may have just been his way of getting people to believe he was working together without actually technically saying it - meaning that he wasn't exactly lying.

It's also possible that The Rock simply read MD, saw Farah's column, and sought him out.  The "bodybuilding diet guru" racket seems to be an interesting one, with a pretty simple script to follow to get going...once a guru has a few high-profile clients, he can get money from dozens of other ones.

As for everything Farah said, that you mentioned above - how funny is it that these guys need to literally trash the entire real bodybuilding world in order to present an image of being agents of health.

For God's sake, the nicest way to describe diet gurus would be to call them chemists.  In reality, they are probably poison control specialists.  But to present themselves as being part of the health and wellness industry...is there no way to put these publicly-held views on bodybuilding to rest?

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2020, 04:08:05 AM »

For God's sake, the nicest way to describe diet gurus would be to call them chemists.  In reality, they are probably poison control specialists.  But to present themselves as being part of the health and wellness industry...is there no way to put these publicly-held views on bodybuilding to rest?

Some of them might even think they know what they are talking about wrt to health and drugs but most of the time aren't staying in their own lane, as opposed to admitting that bodybuilding polypharmacy is just a huge experiment. No one can predict what all of these drugs in combination might do to a person, and a real Dr would say the same and they do.

Like I said, I'm fine with taking risks, that's not the problem, it's these guys thinking they have it all figured out.

If Farah's wife is a Dr I'd love to hear their conversations on the topics of diet and drugs. There are a lot of quack doctors but most of them want to hear evidence of this or that topic wrt for example diet before committing to a certain ideology. Could be for example dairy and its supposed link to cancer Farah talks about - could go like this: dairy intake linked to higher igf-1 > igf-1 linked to cancer and supposedly to shorter lifespan = milk causes cancer and early death. In reality it's vmuch more complicated.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2020, 04:20:46 AM »

If Farah's wife is a Dr I'd love to hear their conversations on the topics of diet and drugs. There are a lot of quack doctors but most of them want to hear evidence of this or that topic wrt for example diet before committing to a certain ideology. Could be for example dairy and its supposed link to cancer Farah talks about - could go like this: dairy intake linked to higher igf-1 > igf-1 linked to cancer and supposedly to shorter lifespan = milk causes cancer and early death. In reality it's vmuch more complicated.

His wife -

https://twitter.com/Drelezabi .

https://copehealthsolutions.com/about/sahar-elezabi-md/  .

They retweet each other occasionally, so I don't think I'm doxxing anyone.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2020, 04:32:45 AM »
His wife -

https://twitter.com/Drelezabi .

https://copehealthsolutions.com/about/sahar-elezabi-md/  .

They retweet each other occasionally, so I don't think I'm doxxing anyone.

Thanks. I don't think I've seen anyone as plugged into the industry as you  :D

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2020, 06:35:16 AM »
Thanks. I don't think I've seen anyone as plugged into the industry as you  :D

BB is an absolute Godsend in tracking stuff down - I'm guessing he's some kind of NSA operative IRL  8)
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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2020, 07:26:29 AM »
Doesnt Ameen Alai say all the hgh in the 90's came from him in some way or fashion?

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2020, 08:14:27 AM »
His wife -

https://twitter.com/Drelezabi .

https://copehealthsolutions.com/about/sahar-elezabi-md/  .

They retweet each other occasionally, so I don't think I'm doxxing anyone.

No wonder he's been able to live a life of leisure for 20 years. True bodybuilder finding a 6/10 to leech off of.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2020, 12:10:23 PM »
Doesnt Ameen Alai say all the hgh in the 90's came from him in some way or fashion?

He probably was a GH source back in the day. Why else would someone like Craig Titus associate with him? Oh yeah, forgot about their Ecstacy dealing, both did time, I think there was supposedly some ratting on Ameen by Titus?  :D

No wonder he's been able to live a life of leisure for 20 years. True bodybuilder finding a 6/10 to leech off of.

I have no opinion on their relationship, who is using who or not, their business.
But this lady is probably very smart which is why it would be interesting to hear their conversations on diet or whatever "science stuff" they talk about. It's possible they don't talk about such things at all too.
Kind of like in some relationships a bodybuilder with tons of experience might not "train" their less informed partner, they keep that stuff separate. Can be a smart approach for various reasons. I've never really "adviced" or "corrected" my GF on training and would never do such unless asked to. :D

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2020, 12:47:34 PM »
Since you are a POZ pig, if a neg bottom came to you, wishing to get "the gift", would you breed him?

Would you breed him? Holy shit. The humanity.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2020, 02:12:07 PM »
Farah is an absolute joke, he seems to think he's a doctor pretty much. Supposedly he's married to an MD and hospital director of some sort. If anyone knows if this is factual, let me know. Can't trust anything these guys say.

Anyway, if you watch Farah's videos here's what he says:

Lots of steroids are bad.
Insulin: bad, stay away
GH: bad
High IGF-1 bad (even as a result of dairy)
High protein: bad
Meat: bad, eat seeds and grains instead
Sugar: killer, causes cancer
Bodybuilding: unimportant, lots of other things are more important

But do his athletes follow this advice? Of course not, so what's the purpose with all this, who is it aimed at? Why does he still coach bodybuilders then?

Other industry insiders have said George is well known for his trenbolone brews.

This other pro coach, Bleu Taylor, told the story of how he was secretly prepping some guy who George Farah thought he was prepping. Farah gives the guy a Lasix at a show but Bleu says to throw it in the trash. Farah thinks the guy took the Lasix and says, "see, this is how good you look when your coach knows what he's doing".

Lol.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2020, 02:28:25 PM »
Haney rimjob is no better, hate that bald, short bastard

Back in the day no I used to train at a gold's where Hany trained his clients Chris Cook being one of them. Hany worked a miracle getting that guy his pro card. Cook did not have that great of genetics but he did work his ass off. I would say Hany is a good coach tho some might dislike his personality. He pioneered the anti stimulant era of vasodilators and trying to get the most pump possible. Wouldnt work with any athletes who smoked or used ephedrine etc.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2020, 02:42:57 PM »
Back in the day no I used to train at a gold's where Hany trained his clients Chris Cook being one of them. Hany worked a miracle getting that guy his pro card. Cook did not have that great of genetics but he did work his ass off. I would say Hany is a good coach tho some might dislike his personality. He pioneered the anti stimulant era of vasodilators and trying to get the most pump possible. Wouldnt work with any athletes who smoked or used ephedrine etc.

Chris Cook they were pushing hard as the “next guy” he didn’t need elite genetics, he was tall for bbing standards, white, blonde, the SoCal look.

Luck of the draw like most of these “gurus”

Hany’s claim to fame is Phil Heath, Heath was going to win or be a top pro no matter what

He didn’t do shit with Steve kuclo, didn’t he coach Justin Compton too? Guys asshole fell out and is out of competitive bbing



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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2020, 02:45:59 PM »
He probably was a GH source back in the day. Why else would someone like Craig Titus associate with him? Oh yeah, forgot about their Ecstacy dealing, both did time, I think there was supposedly some ratting on Ameen by Titus?  :D

I have no opinion on their relationship, who is using who or not, their business.
But this lady is probably very smart which is why it would be interesting to hear their conversations on diet or whatever "science stuff" they talk about. It's possible they don't talk about such things at all too.
Kind of like in some relationships a bodybuilder with tons of experience might not "train" their less informed partner, they keep that stuff separate. Can be a smart approach for various reasons. I've never really "adviced" or "corrected" my GF on training and would never do such unless asked to. :D

If she was really a smart lady, she wouldn’t have gotten with a guy like Farrah.....

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2020, 04:04:01 PM »
If she was really a smart lady, she wouldn’t have gotten with a guy like Farrah.....

We all have our faults, maybe Farah is a great guy in some repects, I have no idea. I mean a doc might marry another doc but what if the guy is a total bore, what good is a high IQ and a spotless, law abiding, clean living lifestyle then?
 :D

Though I wonder if people often marry where there is big disparity in IQ? I don't know Farah's IQ but I would guess she probably is more book smart, as Farah's ideas on diet are very simplistic imo like I said.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2020, 04:30:42 PM »
We all have our faults, maybe Farah is a great guy in some repects, I have no idea. I mean a doc might marry another doc but what if the guy is a total bore, what good is a high IQ and a spotless, law abiding, clean living lifestyle then?
 :D

Though I wonder if people often marry where there is big disparity in IQ? I don't know Farah's IQ but I would guess she probably is more book smart, as Farah's ideas on diet are very simplistic imo like I said.

Maybe it's the other way around and she picks Georgie's brain. His 20 years of practical experience with his clients probably trumps her book knowledge.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2020, 04:34:15 PM »
Chris Cook they were pushing hard as the “next guy” he didn’t need elite genetics, he was tall for bbing standards, white, blonde, the SoCal look.

Luck of the draw like most of these “gurus”

Hany’s claim to fame is Phil Heath, Heath was going to win or be a top pro no matter what

He didn’t do shit with Steve kuclo, didn’t he coach Justin Compton too? Guys asshole fell out and is out of competitive bbing

Cook was tall but his chest and back lacked depth. It was a glaring problem. Like most strong bbers Cooks arms and shoulders dominated most of his lifts. I personally watched Cook hammer curls 120lb dumbbells for a good 20 reps each arm at the end of an arm workout just as an example. He was pretty strong. Used to hit legs wearing flaming pink/bumblebee yellow spandex pants lol.

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2020, 04:35:08 PM »
Maybe it's the other way around and she picks Georgie's brain. His 20 years of practical experience with his clients probably trumps her book knowledge.

Or maybe Farah told her that made up cop story and how badass he was, made her panties wet

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2020, 05:15:24 PM »
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We all have our faults, maybe Farah is a great guy in some repects, I have no idea. I mean a doc might marry another doc but what if the guy is a total bore, what good is a high IQ and a spotless, law abiding, clean living lifestyle then?
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I see what you did there  ;D
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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2020, 10:59:49 PM »
I see what you did there  ;D

Whoa...hang on there.  Have you considered that maybe Farah's wife wanted a man with true strength?

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2020, 01:02:02 AM »
I totally forgot about the Farah/fake cop story. Yeah that
was embarrassing, a real fucking scumbag. If I got caught doing that I doubt I would've wanted to show my face in public again out of shame. But these guys just keep on going like before, as if nothing happened. :-X :D

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #71 on: December 17, 2020, 01:27:02 AM »
I totally forgot about the Farah/fake cop story. Yeah that
was embarrassing, a real fucking scumbag. If I got caught doing that I doubt I would've wanted to show my face in public again out of shame. But these guys just keep on going like before, as if nothing happened. :-X :D

Ronnie Coleman also lied about being a cop when he was not. Can we really expect people who inject huge amounts of drugs, and continually lie about it, to be truthful in other matters?

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2020, 01:40:54 AM »
Ronnie Coleman also lied about being a cop when he was not. Can we really expect people who inject huge amounts of drugs, and continually lie about it, to be truthful in other matters?

Ronnie was a real cop, he lied about being active still, I believe

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Re: Chad Nichols discusses Getbig and the identity of GH15
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2020, 01:52:38 AM »
Ronnie Coleman also lied about being a cop when he was not. Can we really expect people who inject huge amounts of drugs, and continually lie about it, to be truthful in other matters?

There are levels to lying. I'm not sure but it might be illegal to say you were a cop once, even if not it's probably like lying about military service, "stolen valor", highly frowned upon, some want to kill such individuals. IIRC the cops went out of their way to say what piece of shit he was.

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« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2020, 03:40:27 AM »
This was the Ronnie story from 2009 -

"BODYBUILDER, FORMER COP ACCUSED OF POSING AS OFFICER
A former Arlington police officer and eight-time Mr. Olympia winner was arrested on suspicion of impersonating a cop, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported. Ronnie Coleman told a Dalworthington Gardens cop during a traffic stop that he was a police officer and a reserve officer with Arlington police. But records showed Coleman was an officer from 1998 to 2000 and a reserve officer from 2001 to 2003. He later falsely claimed to be an officer with the Baylor Health Care System, police said. Coleman was released from jail Friday after posting bond. Click here to read this story on Fort Worth Star-Telegram."

I remember he caught it from other cops a bit too for claiming he was front lines, when many said after a certain point he was allowed to be more of an office type / goodwill ambassador.