Author Topic: After just one testosterone injection your testosterone production plummets  (Read 923 times)

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"The effect of using synthetic testosterone on the testosterone your own body produces is bigger than doctors think, according to Swedish endocrinologists at the Karolinska Institutet. The Swedes wrote about the study they did for WADA in Substance Abuse and Rehabilitation."

https://www.ergo-log.net/how-after-just-one-testosterone-injection-your-endogenous-testosterone-production-plummets.html

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"The effect of using synthetic testosterone on the testosterone your own body produces is bigger than doctors think, according to Swedish endocrinologists at the Karolinska Institutet. The Swedes wrote about the study they did for WADA in Substance Abuse and Rehabilitation."

https://www.ergo-log.net/how-after-just-one-testosterone-injection-your-endogenous-testosterone-production-plummets.html

This is a groundbreaking study that will shake the bodybuilding community to it's core.  I've been running gear since 1987, and had I had access to this study, I would have, at the very least, washed my hands before and after every pin, and also worn some sort of face covering to protect others from my Tren cough.   Perhaps it's not too late.

"after reading the Swedish study you might start to wonder whether too many steroids users are going to be paying too high a price for their activities."  A very high price, indeed.

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My Endo has proven differently on hundreds of people.

I was on gear for 2 years straight and came off with mild PCT, my natural Test levels were above average about 4 months later.

It really depends on the person and their age, but i know dozens of guys who used gear for years and have perfectly normal Test levels today.

It's also written for a substance abuse literature, so that's a little biased.

I'd put more credit towards this if they monitored longer than six weeks. You would think they would know that it takes longer than that for the HPTA to rebound.


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I have been a heavy user for more than 20 years I have not any permanent effect... just planning discontinue them this year at the best way possible in order to avoid any dramatic effects..my advice is just make sure to use the best... human pharma grade is the best choice..

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I have been a heavy user for more than 20 years I have not any permanent effect... just planning discontinue them this year at the best way possible in order to avoid any dramatic effects..my advice is just make sure to use the best... human pharma grade is the best choice..

you will want to stay on something after 20 years my friend... i tried to get off totally and it wasnt great.... yes my test levels good with in 6 months... things just wont be the same... im talking things you are used to... good workouts, hard cock, energy, ect.... all the good stuff.

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you will want to stay on something after 20 years my friend... i tried to get off totally and it wasnt great.... yes my test levels good with in 6 months... things just wont be the same... im talking things you are used to... good workouts, hard cock, energy, ect.... all the good stuff.

That's correct...

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So I have another vial of Test E 250mg/ml and because of the pip and its effect on my workouts, I’m considering changing 4 weeks in to my other gear to avoid this issue in hopes the pip gets much better. I’m 31 and this is my second cycle. For additional information, I ordered roids at https://mr-pharmaceutical.com/profiles/testosterone

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So I have another vial of Test E 250mg/ml and because of the pip and its effect on my workouts, Iím considering changing 4 weeks in to my other gear to avoid this issue in hopes the pip gets much better. Iím 31 and this is my second cycle.

get a different brand... test e at that mg/ml shouldnt cause pip enough to hinder workouts... unless you are doing quad shots

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Some people who have hypogonadism actually need added testosterone via injections or a gel. This is the reason I started testosterone. At first, I tried Androgel, but had some side effects from it. My doctor switched me to testosterone cypionate injections. The only side effect after many years on it, is that my hematocrit levels started climbing yet were still within range. One solution to this is to donate blood every so often. I also read where grapefruit juice lowers hematocrit....which may or may not be true.

Ironat's linked article addresses testosterone abuse, which is bound to have a negative affect on one's health. The longer the abuse goes on the greater the effect.

In order to maintain some level of natural testosterone production, I inject 250 mg of HGC on each of the last two days before the test shot.

I am merely sharing my experience, which should not be taken as advice. I'm not an endocrinologist or any manner of expert on this. My advice is that if you feel you have low testosterone, see a doctor, get labs done, go easy at first and most of all, follow your doctor's advice.

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Just like anything else in life, AAS should be used in moderation. There is no denying that long durations of high amounts of AAS are bad for you, but not as bad as some people are led to believe.

Donate blood as often as you are allowed to, i donate 3 times a year on average. Your doctor can also allow you to have a nurse drain blood and dispose of it, if they feel it is necessary.

Gels are garbage, it's just a first attempt to see if a person responds. 90% of men with low T need injections, typically between 100 to 200mg every 7-10 days, sometimes more.

Everyone reacts differently, that is why i think anyone on AAS should be getting blood work and monitored by a doctor. I've been using AAS off and on for over 15 years, my health profiles are phenomenal for my age. But that doesn't mean everything is perfect.

I have been getting monitored by an Endo for over 10 years, i just happen to be friends with one who specializes in male hormones. I've tried to get him to post here, but he doesn't have much free time. Plus, as he told me many years ago "even i cannot change a persons mind".

I'm a firm believer that using AAS in moderation is perfectly fine, but again there is not a lot of real data on long term AAS usage in high doses. Considering the crazy doses i've seen people use over the years, i think it's over played a bit, but who really knows.

We all have different responses to drugs. One of my best friends drinks a 12 pack and smokes a pack of cigs every single day; has been doing so for almost 20 years. He's perfectly healthy and i've seen his blood work. Not everyone is so lucky. I deer hunt with a 94 year old man, he smoked for 40 years and drinks almost every night. His key to living a long life is to stay active and drink cheap beer.

Life's a crap shoot, do what you enjoy.

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Just like anything else in life, AAS should be used in moderation. There is no denying that long durations of high amounts of AAS are bad for you, but not as bad as some people are led to believe.

Donate blood as often as you are allowed to, i donate 3 times a year on average. Your doctor can also allow you to have a nurse drain blood and dispose of it, if they feel it is necessary.

Gels are garbage, it's just a first attempt to see if a person responds. 90% of men with low T need injections, typically between 100 to 200mg every 7-10 days, sometimes more.

Everyone reacts differently, that is why i think anyone on AAS should be getting blood work and monitored by a doctor. I've been using AAS off and on for over 15 years, my health profiles are phenomenal for my age. But that doesn't mean everything is perfect.

I have been getting monitored by an Endo for over 10 years, i just happen to be friends with one who specializes in male hormones. I've tried to get him to post here, but he doesn't have much free time. Plus, as he told me many years ago "even i cannot change a persons mind".

I'm a firm believer that using AAS in moderation is perfectly fine, but again there is not a lot of real data on long term AAS usage in high doses. Considering the crazy doses i've seen people use over the years, i think it's over played a bit, but who really knows.

We all have different responses to drugs. One of my best friends drinks a 12 pack and smokes a pack of cigs every single day; has been doing so for almost 20 years. He's perfectly healthy and i've seen his blood work. Not everyone is so lucky. I deer hunt with a 94 year old man, he smoked for 40 years and drinks almost every night. His key to living a long life is to stay active and drink cheap beer.

Life's a crap shoot, do what you enjoy.

Based on the above post, you have a sensible and logical approach to AAS and TRT. I agree with everything you wrote. It is great advice. I'm currently doing 150 mg as per my doctor's advice and prescription. With insurance, a 10ML vial which lasts about 3 months cost me $20.