appetite suppression... what helps you?

[Grape Ape]

I hope this is right.  I have had borderline cholesterol for a while and refuse statins.  I take plant sterols right now.  Tried red yeast rice but was farting constantly.  I love the high fat diet but just want to cover my bases.

I am on statins but supplement CQ10, and am going to work with doc to stop.

However, even while taking statins,my bad cholesterol didn't budge, until I started running training for a Tough Mudder years ago, and then it doubled.

Changed my views on fitness.

Have to move, fuck the bodybuilding shit.

[Humble Narcissist]

I am on statins but supplement CQ10, and am going to work with doc to stop.

However, even while taking statins,my bad cholesterol didn't budge, until I started running training for a Tough Mudder years ago, and then it doubled.

Changed my views on fitness.

Have to move, fuck the bodybuilding shit.

I take CoQ10 as well.

[LurkerNoMore]

I hope this is right.  I have had borderline cholesterol for a while and refuse statins.  I take plant sterols right now.  Tried red yeast rice but was farting constantly.  I love the high fat diet but just want to cover my bases.

I've heard that what is on the market now is not that effective as the gov't went after it a while back because it was cutting into an actual Rx statin profits.  (I forgot the name).  I believe most of what is on the US market is Red Yeast Rice EXTRACT.  Which is not that effective.  Have you monitored your labs to see if it was actually working?  I know you can find real red yeast rice overseas as some people here ask me to bring it back anytime I go travel for a gig.

[Grape Ape]

I've heard that what is on the market now is not that effective as the gov't went after it a while back because it was cutting into an actual Rx statin profits.  (I forgot the name).  I believe most of what is on the US market is Red Yeast Rice EXTRACT.  Which is not that effective.  Have you monitored your labs to see if it was actually working?  I know you can find real red yeast rice overseas as some people here ask me to bring it back anytime I go travel for a gig.

Heard this too.

Also heard the original statin formula had CoQ10 in it, but they took it out for cost purposes.

[LurkerNoMore]

I am on statins but supplement CQ10, and am going to work with doc to stop.

However, even while taking statins,my bad cholesterol didn't budge, until I started running training for a Tough Mudder years ago, and then it doubled.

Changed my views on fitness.

Have to move, fuck the bodybuilding shit.

Which one are you on?  Many of the sport docs in our network are overwhelming going with Crestor (taken at night) as an active lifestyle statin.  They also encourage CQ10 as well, but they suggest taking the entire daily dose (whatever you make be taking) all at once rather than split apart.  If you take one 300mg capsule take it all at once, if you take two 300mg capsules for a total of 600mg, take it all at once don't do another dose in 24 hours.

I've heard people complain of aches and pains in the legs from statins.

[LurkerNoMore]

Heard this too.

Also heard the original statin formula had CoQ10 in it, but they took it out for cost purposes.

It was the same as when the gov't went after yohimbine because it was a cheaper ED alternative.  Now you can only get the crappy yohimbe bark (or extract) kind. 

[Soul Crusher]

I take a protein drink of Thorne Whey with, CoQ10, Vitamin D, multi V, 5 g of creatine, and this sleep supp from amazon and never wake up hungry at night any more.   

This works great FYI

https://thegeniusbrand.com/products/genius-sleep-aid

[loco]

I get my CoQ10 naturally by eating meat everyday.

Statins have been found to reduce the amount of naturally occurring CoQ10 in the body.  Stay far away from statins.

[Grape Ape]

Which one are you on?  Many of the sport docs in our network are overwhelming going with Crestor (taken at night) as an active lifestyle statin.  They also encourage CQ10 as well, but they suggest taking the entire daily dose (whatever you make be taking) all at once rather than split apart.  If you take one 300mg capsule take it all at once, if you take two 300mg capsules for a total of 600mg, take it all at once don't do another dose in 24 hours.

I've heard people complain of aches and pains in the legs from statins.

Simvastatin (Zocor) 40mg @ night.

300mg of CQ10 in the am, with Vit D / B / Quercetin

Magnesium Citrate / Zinc / C at night.

That's pretty much it.

I don't swear by any of this stuff, but it's cheap enough and likely not harmful, so might as well.

[tatoo]

This right here.

If you really want to add something to "suppress the appetite", then try provigil.  It is a stimulant, but taken in small doses - 1/4th to 1/2 tab, it will take the edge off any cravings you have.  You don't want to really suppress your appetite, you just want to make sure that what you eat is going to be what you need for the best results and not empty calories.   Garbage In = Garbage Out.  Eliminate the junk in the diet and use "good" junk food to fool yourself into thinking you are eating sweets.  Get the Triple 0 yogurt from the grocery and add a scoop of Beverly International protein powder to it for a cheat snack.  Or sugar free Jello and add BCAA powder to the mixture before letting it set completely.  One thing I do is make my own MuscleEgg type product.  Buy liquid egg whites and Fairfield (or whatever it is called) Reduced Fat chocolate milk at the grocery.  1 cup of liquid egg whites and 1/4 cup of the chocolate milk mixed is great right before bed.  And since there is no taste to egg whites, your brain thinks you are drinking a full glass of chocolate milk.

exactly what im talking about... thank you... is provigil available online? i know alpha pharma had it for a whlle.

[wes]

I am not focusing on cleans this week, I’m working on abs and lunges.

What did you think of my back pose ? I’m down to 133 lbs and do you think my back is better than bhbank’s ?

I’m also still working on bench pressing with my wrist wraps. Don’t worry Tommy, your 551 record is still safe for now. I’m not sure where to put my feet when I’m benching ?
🙋‍♀️

I didn`t see your back pose

[joswift]

looking at photos of bhanks...

[wes]

Cutting calories is not how you long term lose bodyfat you lose bodyfat and make it less of your % by adding muscle to your frame that will burn more calories at your resting metabolic rate. This is why pics matter. How tall are you? If you were 187lbs and lean don't pretend you gained 35lbs of fat training hard and eating because that is bullshit. We need to see how tall and how heavy you are and what age and how long you have been X weight to determine what weight your body wants to be.

If your body wants to weigh 210lbs then you have to make 210lbs your lean bodyweight by adding muscle. Dieting down to a lean 180lbs wont last as your body will just rebound to 210lbs again and again with less muscle each time as you lose it dieting. 

Eat and train for strength and you will eventually get much leaner and more maintainable than you can through starvation "dieting" I eat more than 5k calories daily

He gained 35 pounds of fat !!

Do you realize how long it would take him to change his body composition using your methods?

YOU IDIOT !!

[JustPlaneJane]

I didn`t see your back pose

In your email.

[IroNat]

He gained 35 pounds of fat !!

Do you realize how long it would take him to change his body composition using your methods?

YOU IDIOT !!

The laws of physics do not apply to Bhank.

He is a mutant.

[wes]

In your email.

Cool, I`ll check it out.

Been gone all day visiting my dying mother in law.........haven`t had a chance to do anything.

[wes]

The laws of physics do not apply to Bhank.

He is a mutant.

He`s a fucking egotistical nitwit.

NITWIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111 1

[Humble Narcissist]

I've heard that what is on the market now is not that effective as the gov't went after it a while back because it was cutting into an actual Rx statin profits.  (I forgot the name).  I believe most of what is on the US market is Red Yeast Rice EXTRACT.  Which is not that effective.  Have you monitored your labs to see if it was actually working?  I know you can find real red yeast rice overseas as some people here ask me to bring it back anytime I go travel for a gig.

I only used the red yeast rice for a week before moving to plant sterols and CoQ10.  I have not gotten follow up blood work yet but will later this year.  Cholesterol was 220 last time.  20 years ago it was 205.

[LurkerNoMore]

I only used the red yeast rice for a week before moving to plant sterols and CoQ10.  I have not gotten follow up blood work yet but will later this year.  Cholesterol was 220 last time.  20 years ago it was 205.

I have noticed a trend docs aren't overly concerned with what the #s are nowdays as it is primarily genetic, instead they are more worried about the size of it.   Have you had it measured by VAP / LDL-P?

[Howard]

what do you fellas use?  i cant seem to diet without one... using some ephedra based shit now.. i dont think its like ma huang back in the day,, but it curbs it... is the prescription stuff worth it?

I usually eat a large pizza or doz donuts and it quickly curbs my "hunger pangs".

Hope this helps.

[Humble Narcissist]

I have noticed a trend docs aren't overly concerned with what the #s are nowdays as it is primarily genetic, instead they are more worried about the size of it.   Have you had it measured by VAP / LDL-P?

No, maybe next time I'll bring that up.

[Hypertrophy]

Calorie restrictive, high carb diets have a very high rate of failure.  Willpower is not enough.

Yes, you can suffer through it for a month or two or three.

Eventually you tire of being always hungry.  Are you going to starve yourself for the rest of your life?

So what to do?

Low carb, high fat, moderate protein.  Eat this way and you will lose weight, mantain muscle, and most importantly, not be hungry.  It is sustainable.

I guess it all depends on your body type and your exercise regimen.


Yesterday I took in 2300 calories  made up of 230 g carbs, 122 gms fat and 75 grams protein. This is typical- I range daily from 2000-2300 while dieting. I don't feel hungry and actually yesterday i kind of felt stuffed.


I have done the low carb deal and it is useless. I drag ass all day and I feel terrible. I even get kidney stones. The longest I ever did low carb was for 1 year- and it doesn't get better.  I bicycle a lot and can definitely see a performance drop on low carb. I measure my performance in watts and it is easy to see a 30% drop on low carb. Why would anyone willingly do that?


I currently weigh 203 pounds at 5'9" and am shooting to get down to about 190, if that. I notice that on a high carb  but calorie limited diet  I actually get leaner and yet maintain muscle mass and strength. On low carb I lose muscle like crazy and look stringy.


The single biggest thing I have discovered about diet is that overtraining - going too hard for too long or too often- causes a huge jump in hunger and yet I get weaker. I am sure this is related to cortisol levels. I purposely keep those levels down by concentrating on heart rate training.


I track my blood pressure daily (usually 120/80), resting pulse on waking (55+/-5 bpm) and Sp02 96-99%


My goals next year are the Master National Cycling Championships in the criterium (high speed, flat races) and I need a fast sprint and a very high average wattage for an hour. This diet lets me do that while slowly leaning out.

[Hypertrophy]

133lb Tranny just stop it women don't post the nasty shit you post

Looking at the legs in JPJ's avatar, I'd say she is pretty damn hot. And I've seen her back pic that popped up here once before. She looks great. Why the hate?

[joswift]

When you were a child the little girls made you feel inadequate.
When you went to school your female classmates made you feel inadequate.
In high school all the girls made you feel inadequate and hate yourself.
As an adult your wife, mother, and mother in law made you feel inadequate.

So in between all that self-hatred you physically assaulted your wife to make yourself feel better about being an ugly, stupid loser.

My success and the attention I receive here must really make you absolutely want to kill yourself.

Proceed…you won’t be missed.

Brutal breakdown of bhanks personal life

[IroNat]

I guess it all depends on your body type and your exercise regimen.


Yesterday I took in 2300 calories  made up of 230 g carbs, 122 gms fat and 75 grams protein. This is typical- I range daily from 2000-2300 while dieting. I don't feel hungry and actually yesterday i kind of felt stuffed.


I have done the low carb deal and it is useless. I drag ass all day and I feel terrible. I even get kidney stones. The longest I ever did low carb was for 1 year- and it doesn't get better.  I bicycle a lot and can definitely see a performance drop on low carb. I measure my performance in watts and it is easy to see a 30% drop on low carb. Why would anyone willingly do that?


I currently weigh 203 pounds at 5'9" and am shooting to get down to about 190, if that. I notice that on a high carb  but calorie limited diet  I actually get leaner and yet maintain muscle mass and strength. On low carb I lose muscle like crazy and look stringy.


The single biggest thing I have discovered about diet is that overtraining - going too hard for too long or too often- causes a huge jump in hunger and yet I get weaker. I am sure this is related to cortisol levels. I purposely keep those levels down by concentrating on heart rate training.


I track my blood pressure daily (usually 120/80), resting pulse on waking (55+/-5 bpm) and Sp02 96-99%


My goals next year are the Master National Cycling Championships in the criterium (high speed, flat races) and I need a fast sprint and a very high average wattage for an hour. This diet lets me do that while slowly leaning out.

You have learned what works for you.  That is best.

Eating a lot of carbs does cause your pancreas to work hard to balance your blood glucose which can lead to Type 2 diabetes.

Usually the cause for fatigue on a low carb diet is not eating enough fat.  Not getting enough fat calories results in weight loss.  Your body still needs fuel.

Macros for 2000 calories would be...

10% carbs = 50 grams
20% protein = 100 grams
70% fat = 156 grams

2300 would be...

10% carbs = 58 grams
20% protein = 115 grams
70% fat = 179 grams

I don't count calories or macros.