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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #350 on: August 30, 2021, 04:57:09 AM »
Because I believe that is what it is. You believe otherwise. Suggesting that I am anti-Semitic is such a total laugh and could not be further from the truth.

Because you "believe" that is what it is?  I see.  So you don't believe in science.

I haven't posted what I believe.  I have posted scientific studies.

I suggested you don't like Jews because you falsely accused the good Israeli scientists and MDs of lying and then you called their work nonsense.  Those are serious accusations.

A better question is, why am I wasting my time discussing this with COVID antivaxxers who are neither friends or family. When in truth. I don't give a rip whether they get vaccinated or not. The people who are important to me in real life are rationale and intelligent and therefore vaccinated, wear masks and social distance where advised. If you think this is wrong, so be it. It is not like those of us who do these things pose a threat to those of you who don't.

Now you are falsely accusing me of being a COVID antivaxxer.  Why are you so quick to prejudge people?  Show one post where I have said I'm not vaccinated, or that I won't get vaccinated, or where I've told people not to get vaccinated.

You falsely accused me of spreading misinformation too, but you give Joe Biden and Fauci a pass when they are the ones who have spread misinformation.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #351 on: August 30, 2021, 05:13:46 AM »
Pretty interesting that the times would print an article like this.


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August 30, 2021
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Good morning. Vaccine immunity may not really be waning much — which means universal booster shots may do little good.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #352 on: August 30, 2021, 10:37:07 AM »

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #353 on: August 30, 2021, 11:13:59 AM »



The George Bush Jr of the Ivory League medical community.  You're late, you little half-man.  Already posted Poly (natural infection) vs Mono (fucboi experimental compound shot)!  Any 3000/4000 level virology book will debunk this bullshit.  Sick joke people are strapped in and can't get it.  Like a getbigger said, just carry an IV bag b/c that's the path we are headed down. Mono shots 3 and 4 are on the way.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #355 on: August 30, 2021, 11:17:18 AM »
Sick little bish still trying to give these experimental shots to pre-school kids.  He should be jailed along with his wife.

Fauci: School Covid-19 vaccine mandates are a 'good idea'

Mandating Covid-19 vaccines for children to attend school in person is a "good idea" due to a strong benefit-risk ratio, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday.

"I believe that mandating vaccines for children to appear in school is a good idea," Fauci told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."
Fauci acknowledged that there will be a lot of people pushing back on this idea, but said he believes the US Food and Drug Administration as well as the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which advises the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, will establish a strong benefit-risk ratio for this, especially given that the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine now has full FDA approval.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #356 on: August 30, 2021, 01:31:04 PM »
Pretty interesting that the times would print an article like this.


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August 30, 2021
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By David Leonhardt
Good morning. Vaccine immunity may not really be waning much — which means universal booster shots may do little good.

I read this too. It made me chuckle since it was only yesterday that I read about waiting 8 months after your last shot before getting the booster. Everyday there's something new and often times conflicting being published or said by those who are supposedly in-the-know. I've said this before, COVID hasn't been around long enough to have been fully studied. There is lot of guesswork going on. As bad as this is, it is preferable to these people saying nothing at all because that would scare the crap out of a lot people. Silence isn't always golden.   

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #357 on: August 30, 2021, 02:58:04 PM »
It's fair to say that the vaccine is less effective against Delta than previous strains. So why? If it's not antibody attenuation then reduced affinity seems a likely explanation.

I don't understand why this would be a tough mystery to crack. I'd think antibody levels would be awfully easy to measure, and there'd be no shortage of volunteers for a study, but whatever.

Does the vax target solely the s2 membrane binding protein subunit? If they chose a hyperspecific portion, and that turns out to be mutable, reduced antibody affinity wouldn't be that surprising.

It's complicated and I haven't put in the time to understand. Still, in light of Delta, I'm questioning whether mutable region targeting was the way to go.

Reduced antibody levels and poor binding are both pathways for ADE, and I've yet to hear how we're not playing with fire. The best explanation I've yet heard is that although it's a possibility, refusing a solution to an existing threat on the basis of a speulative one is wrongheaded. Confess I remained unconvinced by that reasoning since the existing solution looks increasingly lame and the possibility of ADE seems not unlikely.

I think the vaccine's benefit against Delta, which I believe in, is the tail end of the vax honeymoon phase. Imo boosters will have to be tuned for variants. This shit is going to go on and on.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #358 on: August 30, 2021, 03:03:07 PM »
Again, complicated stuff, but why does natural immunity mount a better defense against variants than vaccination? Is it because your system built defenses against a whole virus rather than a smll fraction of one? Idk.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #359 on: August 30, 2021, 03:13:04 PM »
It's fair to say that the vaccine is less effective against Delta than previous strains. So why? If it's not antibody attenuation then reduced affinity seems a likely explanation.

I don't understand why this would be a tough mystery to crack. I'd think antibody levels would be awfully easy to measure, and there'd be no shortage of volunteers for a study, but whatever.

Does the vax target solely the s2 membrane binding protein subunit? If they chose a hyperspecific portion, and that turns out to be mutable, reduced antibody affinity wouldn't be that surprising.

It's complicated and I haven't put in the time to understand. Still, in light of Delta, I'm questioning whether mutable region targeting was the way to go.

Reduced antibody levels and poor binding are both pathways for ADE, and I've yet to hear how we're not playing with fire. The best explanation I've yet heard is that although it's a possibility, refusing a solution to an existing threat on the basis of a speulative one is wrongheaded. Confess I remained unconvinced by that reasoning since the existing solution looks increasingly lame and the possibility of ADE seems not unlikely.

I think the vaccine's benefit against Delta, which I believe in, is the tail end of the vax honeymoon phase. Imo boosters will have to be tuned for variants. This shit is going to go on and on.

-Got that right! And the longer it goes on the worse the panic, speculation, misinformation and paranoia will become. 'Fasten your seat belts; it's going to be a bumpy night!'

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #360 on: August 30, 2021, 03:41:41 PM »
-Got that right! And the longer it goes on the worse the panic, speculation, misinformation and paranoia will become. 'Fasten your seat belts; it's going to be a bumpy night!'

Yes, misinformation from your government:

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

Biden makes false claims about Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html

At the town hall, CNN presenter Don Lemon asked the president whether he believes COVID is in retreat.

The president said there is a pandemic for those who are not vaccinated against COVID. He went on to claim:
"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die."


Did Joe Biden Spread Misinformation on COVID Vaccines?
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181





Fauci tells 60 Minutes: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask."


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #361 on: August 30, 2021, 03:54:58 PM »
Snobbish post reported.

Also, there is no correlation there, and it infers unvaccinated people are the opposite, which is not the case.

A rationale and intelligent person who has beaten Covid and has antibodies, could make rationale and intelligent choice not be vaccinated.

I stated an opinion. Last time I checked, we were still allowed to have opinions. You can disagree with it if you want, but your response seems more like an argument than a disagreement.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #362 on: August 30, 2021, 03:57:29 PM »
Yes, misinformation from your government:


I gather it is not your government. Where do you live?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #363 on: August 30, 2021, 04:02:46 PM »
I gather it is not your government. Where do you live?

That's on a need to know basis, and you don't need to know.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #364 on: August 30, 2021, 04:08:34 PM »
That's on a need to know basis, and you don't need to know.


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #365 on: August 30, 2021, 04:40:19 PM »
No problem. I took it with 220 mg zinc sulfate, 5000 iu vitamin D, 3000mg vitamin c and my usual multi vitamin and multi mineral.

V interesting stuff thanks - how long did you keep this up for?  Was it for a period you decided in advance, or did you just keep going til you felt 'back to normal'?

And how did you take the C - as drinks or tablets, and presumably split up over the day?  So did you front load like 3g am and 2g pm - or last thing at night maybe?  (Same question about timing for the D)

Sorry for all the questions(!) :), I'm just very interested in your approach to implementation

Thanks in advance  8)
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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #366 on: August 30, 2021, 10:47:56 PM »
Again, complicated stuff, but why does natural immunity mount a better defense against variants than vaccination? Is it because your system built defenses against a whole virus rather than a smll fraction of one? Idk.

The virus is composed of 3 main components, capsid, spikes/tail fibers, and cs.  naturally (not lab jimmy-rigged like covid), the cs is variable, as in HIV, while the tail fibers are a constant. covid has a variable cs and spikes.  variable spikes are the issue. the fucboi vaccines only produce mono-spikes on a cell so that's what the fucboi vaccinated-created immune system sees. they all know this, esp the pharmacies.  a natural immune system engagement vs covid sees poly spikes after P1 replicates.  therefore F1, F2, etc have degrees of differentiation.  That means the natural immune has already seen precursors to lambda and mu. the science isn't difficult.  it's difficult when pharmacy purse strings are involved. prepare for a covid and flu shot yearly if work in healthcare esp : (

They are going to stop a retrovirus. What a magnificent lie like the Tet.


 

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (NOT!)
« Reply #367 on: August 31, 2021, 12:00:09 AM »


Former FDA commissioner on Pfizer's board with a pocket full of stocks.  ::)

Supposed 2 year trial but 13 month full approval  ::)

I had no clue Fauci's wife was with the NIH which is the segway to final approval.  ::)

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (NOT!)
« Reply #368 on: August 31, 2021, 03:09:11 AM »
Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather are excellent sources for covid information. They are evolutionary biologists. I give them 10/10 for integrity.



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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #369 on: August 31, 2021, 03:10:10 AM »
-Got that right! And the longer it goes on the worse the panic, speculation, misinformation and paranoia will become. 'Fasten your seat belts; it's going to be a bumpy night!'

The holdouts will hold out with greater zealotry, but only because the squeeze is getting tighter. Pretty much every employer is already threatening staff with termination. Not just health care. My gf's daughter is an office girl for a real estate agent. They told her she'll be fired if she doesn't get it.

I think my own reasons are pretty decent, but I guess everyone would make that claim. Anyway, there's still no virus in Western Australia so I'm content to let information accrue.

I don't talk about the vax irl much. It's just too touchy a subject theae days.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #370 on: August 31, 2021, 04:14:47 AM »
The holdouts will hold out with greater zealotry, but only because the squeeze is getting tighter. Pretty much every employer is already threatening staff with termination. Not just health care. My gf's daughter is an office girl for a real estate agent. They told her she'll be fired if she doesn't get it.

I think my own reasons are pretty decent, but I guess everyone would make that claim. Anyway, there's still no virus in Western Australia so I'm content to let information accrue.

I don't talk about the vax irl much. It's just too touchy a subject theae days.

I have wanted to go to Western Australia for a few years now to take photos. Amazing scenery there for sure. Present conditions in NSW and closed border to WA means travel there is unlikely for many more months. Australia no longer exists as one nation. Lots of dumbasses controlling things in each state. Most people are sheep because they go along with the restrictions. NSW is now a penal colony. Can't go out of the state and those of us in Greater Sydney can't go anywhere even in NSW. Never thought I would ever live in conditions like Nazi Germany.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #371 on: August 31, 2021, 04:21:40 AM »
Nazi Germany.

retarded comparison with Hitlers Germany spotted
If you and other faggots had actually listed to him you might not be in this mess now
It wasn't 'the nazis' that were expelled from hundreds of nations over the course of millenia for pulling this shit

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #372 on: August 31, 2021, 06:22:51 AM »
V interesting stuff thanks - how long did you keep this up for?  Was it for a period you decided in advance, or did you just keep going til you felt 'back to normal'?

And how did you take the C - as drinks or tablets, and presumably split up over the day?  So did you front load like 3g am and 2g pm - or last thing at night maybe?  (Same question about timing for the D)

Sorry for all the questions(!) :), I'm just very interested in your approach to implementation

Thanks in advance  8)
I actually took the ivermectin for 8 days.  I started it when my wife tested positive which was a few days before I tested positive.  I took 18mg of it split up in two doses.  Like a 12mg pill in the morning on an empty stomach and a 6mg pill at night.  I took the 220 mg of zinc sulfate, 5000 D and 1000 C with my breakfast.  I usually did a gram of Vitamin C with breakfast, lunch and dinner.  I stopped taking the ivermectin but stayed on the rest of the vitamins. I don't know how much it all helped, but I never had bad symptoms.  Never even had a bad night of sleep.  I live in S. FL so most of my friends have had covid.  I had the mildest Illness by far. Again, I don't know if I just have a better immune system or if the ivermectin helped.  All I know is a 30 year old friend of mine ended up in the hospital last week for covid.  As he was going doing hill, all his Dr. would tell him is to "drink more fluids". Total joke.  I personally think there are safe, early protocols that can help your body fight covid but we keep getting told it's not true.  Just go home and let the virus rage in your body and hope you don't have to go to the emergency room.  I think that's a terrible strategy.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #373 on: August 31, 2021, 06:27:37 AM »
COVID-19 is obviously real, I'm a spastic

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (NOT!)
« Reply #374 on: August 31, 2021, 07:21:36 AM »
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