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« on: April 25, 2006, 10:39:00 AM »
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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2006, 12:37:01 PM »
In my experiences its usually the other way around, or they cost about the same, if that is what you are asking?

But the cycle looks fine to me!!
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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2006, 12:46:53 PM »
in my opinion its to much for a first cycle.. 500mg test.only is the way to go

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2006, 01:58:55 PM »
In my experiences its usually the other way around, or they cost about the same, if that is what you are asking?

But the cycle looks fine to me!!

^Concur w/ John.

Those prices are standard, although Deca can cost more.

Cycle is good, I've run that before and it's nice.  Might need to up the Test or lower the Deca if you get supressed though.

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2006, 02:11:04 PM »
^Agree.  I also thought the deca to test ratio was a little too high, although 200 deca per week may not be worth taking.  You didn't say if this was your first cycle.  If so, 500 of test is fine to start with.  If you have done several cycles already, you may consider upping the test dose to 750mg per week if you want to keep the deca at 400mg.  If it's your first cycle, consider dropping the deca to 300mg if you really want to use it.

Definitely use arimidex during this cycle.

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2006, 02:19:38 PM »
also is it normal for sustanon 250 to cost as much as deca 200 ?...this is in europe..10$ each

From what I've seen Deca is usually about $5-10 more then a vail of Test/sus.

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2006, 04:13:46 PM »
it's 10 weeks, 500mg sustanon + 400 mg deca , shot twice a week 250+200 together in a syringe. please comment
maybe try this one:
10 weeks sus 500 mg a week
8 weeks deca 400 mg a week

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006, 05:25:15 PM »

 I concur w/ Sportingster...

 Or 500mg of sus a week...say a Monday/Friday injection and Deca at even 300mg on Wednesdays...

 Run that for 10 weeks and you should see some good gains. I like EQ better than Deca though but thats just me.

 Dang...sus vials in Chicagoland can go for $15 to as high as $25 an amp...Deca300...by QV? Maybe $150-200.
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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2006, 06:03:30 PM »
^Agree.  I also thought the deca to test ratio was a little too high, although 200 deca per week may not be worth taking.  You didn't say if this was your first cycle.  If so, 500 of test is fine to start with.  If you have done several cycles already, you may consider upping the test dose to 750mg per week if you want to keep the deca at 400mg.  If it's your first cycle, consider dropping the deca to 300mg if you really want to use it.

Definitely use arimidex during this cycle.


It depends on the person, but for me, running 500MG Sustanon w/ 400MG Deca ew.......my sex drive is still supressed.

It feels like there's a roadblock between my mind and my cock.....

Even if the desire is there, it's harder to come and it takes alot more concentration overall.

Decadick is a mutha!   >:(



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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 12:00:18 PM »
It depends on the person, but for me, running 500MG Sustanon w/ 400MG Deca ew.......my sex drive is still supressed.

It feels like there's a roadblock between my mind and my cock.....

Even if the desire is there, it's harder to come and it takes alot more concentration overall.

Decadick is a mutha!   >:(



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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2006, 09:29:29 AM »
My first cycle was test E 500 mgs got great results.

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2006, 10:32:40 AM »
youre goin to get deca dick
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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2006, 07:31:13 PM »
deca under 400 is just not worth taking...my oppinion...it's first cyle though so sus at 750 might be too much..so whats the deal ..should i do sustanon only?...i would like oppinions from serious competitors or competitive powerlifters no offence please.:)also should i take something anti gyno during?

I love deca but not for a 1st timer. It's not that there is anything really advanced about using deca, but for a 1st cycle your always better off keeping it as simple as you can.

If I were you and this is my first cycle I might try something like this:

wk 1-12 sust 500mg
wk 7-12 winny 50mg ed (you might do fine w/eod)
wk 1-12 a-dex .25mg-.50mg eod

PCT
wk 15 nolva 40mg ed
wk 16 nolva 30mg ed
wk 17 nolva 20mg ed

Just to cover all the bases, there is no need to front load your sust or anything like that...if you are eager to get things rolling a little faster you could add in some dbol the first 4-6wks at 20-30mg ed. A lot of guys do this, but personally I hate dbol because of the sides and do not find the positives all that rewarding...just offering you some ideas.

BTW for the winny, I recommend taking it orally, either by tab or drinking the liquid...either way is fine.

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2006, 08:56:17 PM »
deca under 400 is just not worth taking...my oppinion...it's first cyle though so sus at 750 might be too much..so whats the deal ..should i do sustanon only?...i would like oppinions from serious competitors or competitive powerlifters no offence please.:)also should i take something anti gyno during?


Go with what baby Arnold recommended, it's much better for a first cycle.  Trust.

How do you know using Deca under 400MG isn't worth it if it's your first cycle?

If you are running 400Mg Deca, you'd be best served by using at least 750MG Test.  If you want to have sex that is.




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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2006, 02:14:22 AM »
I got a question:
my buddy wanna do his first cycle,deca+test en
like me he has not enough en on hand,so
week 1:  test en 1000mg(from Test 400×2, test en 250×2) frontload
             deca    300mg

week 2-10 test en 500mg
               deca 300 mg


is that okay>>?
deca and test is abot 3:5

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Re: 1st cycle test+deca
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2006, 09:40:38 AM »
I got a question:
my buddy wanna do his first cycle,deca+test en
like me he has not enough en on hand,so
week 1:  test en 1000mg(from Test 400×2, test en 250×2) frontload
             deca    300mg

week 2-10 test en 500mg
               deca 300 mg


is that okay>>?
deca and test is abot 3:5
hi, yes  , 3:5 ratio is good, he can do that combo..
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