Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.

[Royalty]

He is all oil, biceps, triceps, shoulder and calves.
Every competitor should have an x-ray before Olympia and be banned for life if caught.

With a lifetime ban threat...

Nick Walker, Big Ramy, Hadi, and many others would all of a sudden look a lot smaller in their arms and shoulders

[Wiggs]

Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene. 
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

[joswift]

Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene. 
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

where do you think Yates injected Esicline?

[Wiggs]

where do you think Yates injected Esicline?

Not Yates and Not Shawn Ray

[joswift]

Not Yates and Not Shawn Ray

Labrada
Benfatto
Paris
Priest

[Wiggs]

Labrada
Benfatto
Paris
Priest

Yeah Lee Priest as well. While Paris, Labrada and Benfatto competed in the 90s, I considered them more 80s guys because thats where they competed most of their careers.

[Rambone]

Wigs: “Get used to him.”

Getbig:

[Wiggs]

Wigs: “Get used to him.”

Getbig:

 

I'm feeling abnormal push back against this imposing physical specimen and I'm the lube to ease him through to Getbig. 100% absolutely no homo. If I can't be the lube it's going to be forced and you'll just have to accept it.

[Rambone]

I'm feeling abnormal push back against this imposing physical specimen and I'm the lube ease him through to Getbig. 100% absolutely no homo.

 

[oldschoolfan]

Guy looks great but lets keep it real,he beat Kucklo.

Let`s see how he fares in is next outing before anyone here offers to blow him for Gods sake.

wes kucklo is in real bad shape bro, he pays alimony child support and for therapy for his ex wife that has more money than him, this sack of shit will actually have to get a real job again, i think he would do great at star bucks or chick a fil

[ThisisOverload]

I stopped reading at "fresh receptors".

He's a decent BBer.

Needs to drain the oil from his delts, calves and biceps.

If this is what people think will win the Mr O, BBing is truly dead.

[oldschoolfan]

aaron baker would have smoked   andrew jackoff as well, and so would have prime dennis wolf and the ivory beast gary strydom -  strydom didnt have oil in his delts

[Van_Bilderass]

Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene. 
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

It is site enhancement oil, not site injections. There's no debate.

Right now, he's a couple of levels below Mr O contender. Advancing significantly is very hard for a guy like this.

Flex Wheeler, what we think of as the pinnacle of 90s bb was an oil disaster, much worse than any of the guys today so you are right there.

[Van_Bilderass]

where do you think Yates injected Esicline?

Yates claimed he only did it in his upper chest, of all places. If he did, it likely did close to nothing aesthetically.

[Van_Bilderass]

aaron baker would have smoked   andrew jackoff as well, and so would have prime dennis wolf and the ivory beast gary strydom -  strydom didnt have oil in his delts

If a bodybuilder has no back is he still a bodybuilder? I don't know. It's almost tragic to be cursed like that.

[michael arvilla]

wes kucklo is in real bad shape bro, he pays alimony child support and for therapy for his ex wife that has more money than him, this sack of shit will actually have to get a real job again, i think he would do great at star bucks or chick a fil

Can someone tell him the Mall is Hiring?

[Wiggs]

It is site enhancement oil, not site injections. There's no debate.

Right now, he's a couple of levels below Mr O contender. Advancing significantly is very hard for a guy like this.

Flex Wheeler, what we think of as the pinnacle of 90s bb was an oil disaster, much worse than any of the guys today so you are right there.

I'm well aware of what Esicilene is, my point is while yes it inflames the muscle vs oil volumizes it, it's still BS compared to Haney's era and before. 90s guys are morally no better than post 90s guys when it comes to this stuff. Steroids, Gh, insulin, whatever. Site enhancement which oil is technically site enhancement as well is garbage.


I dont have my blinders on to Andrew and he may indeed be using site enhancement oil but he's no worse that 90s guys. They definitely don't get a pass as being morally superior. Especially Wheeler from 98 on. To me his 93 physique is still the perfect physique even at sub 220lbs.

[joswift]

I'm well aware of what Esicilene is, my point is while yes it inflames the muscle vs oil volumizes it, it's still BS compared to Haney's era and before. 90s guys are morally no better than post 90s guys when it comes to this stuff. Steroids, Gh, insulin, whatever. Site enhancement which oil is technically site enhancement as well is garbage.


I dont have my blinders on to Andrew and he may indeed be using site enhancement oil but he's no worse that 90s guys. They definitely don't get a pass as being morally superior. Especially Wheeler from 98 on. To me his 93 physique is still the perfect physique even at sub 220lbs.

and his calves were loaded with esiciline even then

[Wiggs]

and his calves were loaded with esiciline even then

Damn, didn't know that.

[Royalty]

Damn, didn't know that.

Shawn Ray made a big deal about it in 1993.

Apparently Shawn and Flex were training together for Flex’s 1993 pro debut. Shawn didn’t see Flex training calves... ever!  And somehow Flex’s calves were better than ever for the Ironman and ASC. Shawn called him out, indirectly, through the magazines

[Wiggs]

Shawn Ray made a big deal about it in 1993.

Apparently Shawn and Flex were training together for Flex’s 1993 pro debut. Shawn didn’t see Flex training calves... ever!  And somehow Flex’s calves were better than ever for the Ironman and ASC. Shawn called him out, indirectly, through the magazines

That was post 93 when Shawn accused him of implants and Demilia made him get an MRI which came back negative for implants. That was around 96-97

[Walter Sobchak]

Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene. 
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

You’re claiming Lee Haney was full of oil?

Wiggs you’re smoking yourself stupid.

[Bevo]

wes kucklo is in real bad shape bro, he pays alimony child support and for therapy for his ex wife that has more money than him, this sack of shit will actually have to get a real job again, i think he would do great at star bucks or chick a fil

He won’t make it, will be in a coffin soon, and Amanda will have the last laugh, all those kuclo schmoes will have to find another bbers cock to suck off of

[Matt]

You’re claiming Lee Haney was full of oil?

Wiggs you’re smoking yourself stupid.

I think Wiggs just meant that the guys from the 90's were pushing the envelope with whatever they had access to, by and large.

They didn't abuse synthol because it didn't exist. Esicline was the closest thing to pump in your delts, and it was no doubt widespread.

1990's guys don't deserve credit for having a more moderate mentality...they simply didn't have the substances available to abuse.

Nasser said literally all pro bodybuilders use synthol. The way he spoke about it, 100% of IFBB pro bodybuilders use it. He said synth is as common among pros as toothpaste, and then amended that statement and said synthol is as common as toilet paper among pros.

I'm sure Nasser had some idea.

RIP Nasshoil Oil Synthoilbody.

[ThisisOverload]

I think Wiggs just meant that the guys from the 90's were pushing the envelope with whatever they had access to, by and large.

All BBers since the conception of drugs are the same.

There is no glory era.

It's always been about pushing the envelope.

All sports have been this way for decades. Even auto sports.

Same/same.