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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #350 on: July 31, 2026, 01:42:26 PM »
I have this nasty habit of putting context and actual facts to your distorted and dishonest commentary.  You sugarcoat, whitewash, and in some instances outright lie about “bad” things involving leftists.  I simply try and help you (or anyone else reading) understand what the actual facts are.

You plagiarize a lot, so maybe you don’t understand how quotation marks and paraphrasing works, but if I don’t put quotation marks around comments attributed to you, that means I am not quoting you.  I’m paraphrasing. 

Regarding your comments, your contention that “Biden promptly reported the discovery documents” is false and misleading.  (Notice how I quoted you.)

Biden had classified documents he obtained as a Senator, at least 14 or more years earlier.  The only way a Senator can review classified documents is in a SCIF.  He had no authority to remove classified documents from the SCIF.  The only way he could have removed classified documents from the SCIF was to steal them.  Anyone removing classified documents from a SCIF knows exactly what they are doing.  It’s not an accident.  You’ve probably never been in a SCIF.  I have.   

So when Biden turned over classified documents that he stole from the SCIF, he was not promptly reporting anything.  He simply got caught.  Or more accurately, his staff or lawyers knew he was going to get caught.  So saying he promptly reported the discovery of classified documents that he actually stole over a decade earlier is, frankly, retarded. 

What I did was accurately state the facts that you tried to whitewash.  I know you don’t like it, and it destroys your false narrative, but don’t get mad at me for correcting you.  I’m here to help.   :)

Let's be clear. You mean your version of what is a fact. My my aren't you the self important expert on everything? Has it ever occurred to you that you might be wrong? Most likely it has not.

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #351 on: July 31, 2026, 01:55:09 PM »
Has it ever occurred to you that you might be wrong? Most likely it has not.
Wow, talk about Pot/Kettle. You might want to take a minute and reflect on your transgressions.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #352 on: July 31, 2026, 02:00:07 PM »

You have completely ignored the fact Biden had classified documents from a decade earlier when
He was a senator ?  Why are you not bothered that he was stealing classified documents, Yet you'd
Be crying & throwing your toys out the pram if it had been Donald.

Double standards/ Hypocrite much.

At what point did Biden refuse to turn over the Classified documents? The answer is he never did. And then there is the shear volume of documents in Trump's possession verses Biden's. Biden had somewhere between fifty and eighty documents in total. There were 337 classified documents in total from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. And you want to go on about how long Biden possessed some of these documents. And not all of these did he have since he was a Senator. Many  records and personal handwritten notes dating from his tenure as Vice President.

No one should have in their personal possession these types of government Classified documents. Both men are culpable.

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« Reply #353 on: July 31, 2026, 03:11:23 PM »
At what point did Biden refuse to turn over the Classified documents? The answer is he never did. And then there is the shear volume of documents in Trump's possession verses Biden's. Biden had somewhere between fifty and eighty documents in total. There were 337 classified documents in total from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. And you want to go on about how long Biden possessed some of these documents. And not all of these did he have since he was a Senator. Many  records and personal handwritten notes dating from his tenure as Vice President.

No one should have in their personal possession these types of government Classified documents. Both men are culpable.


WTF are you babbling on about how many documents who had.
FFS man I didn't ask that -
I said why the Fuck would Pedo Joe have classified documents at his
Home from when he was a Senator??

You couldn't answer a straight simple question: was it to difficult a question ? 
or you just wanted to avoid it & type a load of unrelated utter crap as usual  ::)

Pathetic.

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #354 on: July 31, 2026, 03:28:28 PM »
Let's be clear. You mean your version of what is a fact. My my aren't you the self important expert on everything? Has it ever occurred to you that you might be wrong? Most likely it has not.

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #355 on: July 31, 2026, 03:30:25 PM »
At what point did Biden refuse to turn over the Classified documents? The answer is he never did. And then there is the shear volume of documents in Trump's possession verses Biden's. Biden had somewhere between fifty and eighty documents in total. There were 337 classified documents in total from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. And you want to go on about how long Biden possessed some of these documents. And not all of these did he have since he was a Senator. Many  records and personal handwritten notes dating from his tenure as Vice President.

No one should have in their personal possession these types of government Classified documents. Both men are culpable.

Good grief.  When he stole them from the SCIF as a member of the Senate, about 14 or more years before he got caught. 

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #356 on: July 31, 2026, 03:31:19 PM »
Wow, talk about Pot/Kettle. You might want to take a minute and reflect on your transgressions.

I don't think he realizes that AI has its limits and can be wrong. 

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #357 on: August 02, 2026, 07:12:19 PM »
Good grief.  When he stole them from the SCIF as a member of the Senate, about 14 or more years before he got caught.

You are avoiding the point, which is that one person turned over the documents the other one never did. 


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« Reply #358 on: August 02, 2026, 08:44:46 PM »
You are avoiding the point, which is that one person turned over the documents the other one never did.


It is YOU who is avoiding the point.  As Fucking usual   ::)

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« Reply #359 on: August 03, 2026, 08:05:41 AM »
You are avoiding the point, which is that one person turned over the documents the other one never did.
You are avoiding the point, one stole documents he was not supposed to be in possession of, as a former President the other could be. ::)
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« Reply #360 on: August 03, 2026, 01:24:11 PM »
You are avoiding the point, one stole documents he was not supposed to be in possession of, as a former President the other could be. ::)

The point is that neither of them should have had classified documents in their residence or residences.

Let me remind you that according to the Presidential Records Act, all official presidential records and classified materials must be transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) immediately upon leaving office.

The National Archives Building (Archives I) is Located at 700 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20408, and not 1100 South Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach, FL 33480. Mar-A-Lago is a for profit private social and official primary residence of Donald Trump. While the classified documents from Joe Biden's time as vice president and senator were found at his former private office in Washington, D.C., and his personal residence in Wilmington, Delaware.

The Classified documents Biden had were clearly in a more secure location than the Classified documents Trump took to Mar-A-Lago and stored in several public and communal areas, including a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, a business center office, and a ground-floor storage room. A private social club that has around five hundred members

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #361 on: August 03, 2026, 01:32:17 PM »
The point is that neither of them should have had classified documents in their residence or residences.

Let me remind you that according to the Presidential Records Act, all official presidential records and classified materials must be transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) immediately upon leaving office.

The National Archives Building (Archives I) is Located at 700 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20408, and not 1100 South Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach, FL 33480. Mar-A-Lago is a for profit private social and official primary residence of Donald Trump. While the classified documents from Joe Biden's time as vice president and senator were found at his former private office in Washington, D.C., and his personal residence in Wilmington, Delaware.

The Classified documents Biden had were clearly in a more secure location than the Classified documents Trump took to Mar-A-Lago and stored in several public and communal areas, including a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, a business center office, and a ground-floor storage room. A private social club that has around five hundred members


FFS YET MORE WORD SALAD CRAP & WON'T DEAL WITH THE POINT  ::)
Stop with trying to blame everyone & Stick to Why did Biden a senior have confidential
Documents at his home long before he was elected president?

or is the question to difficult for you.  There is no need or relevance in bring Donald's or any
Other Presidents name in to your answer. Its about one person & one person only your dearly
Beloved Pedo Joe.

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« Reply #362 on: August 03, 2026, 02:27:07 PM »

FFS YET MORE WORD SALAD CRAP & WON'T DEAL WITH THE POINT  ::)
Stop with trying to blame everyone & Stick to Why did Biden a senior have confidential
Documents at his home long before he was elected president?

or is the question to difficult for you.  There is no need or relevance in bring Donald's or any
Other Presidents name in to your answer. Its about one person & one person only your dearly
Beloved Pedo Joe.

-Blame everyone? Who besides Biden and Trump am I blaming?

I already agreed that both of these men broke the law. You ignore that neither of them, regardless of what position they held, had the legal right to take them.

However, you and I differ on what should be the major concern or the point.

For you it seems to be who, what position they held and when the documents were taken. For me it is the security, the number of documents, and the refusal to return them that stand out.

It amuses and disappoints me that whenever you and I disagree, you resort to using the worn-out term, 'word salad' to describe my detailed and researched replies.

 




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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #363 on: August 03, 2026, 04:28:35 PM »
You are avoiding the point, which is that one person turned over the documents the other one never did.

Seriously?  Biden turned over documents he had previously stolen, over fourteen years after he had stolen them. 

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #364 on: August 03, 2026, 04:44:06 PM »
The Confession of Joe Biden
August 3, 2026

Below is my column in The Hill on the release of the tapes from former President Joe Biden’s interview with his biographer. The Biden team fought for years to keep the public from hearing the tapes. We now know why.

Here is the column:

For years, former President Joe Biden has fought to prevent the release of tapes acquired by former special counsel Robert Hur in his investigation. After those efforts collapsed this month, it became clear why Biden and his aides were so determined to keep the public from seeing the evidence.

In addition to showing Biden’s mental diminution even before he was elected president, the tapes show that Biden effectively confessed to the crimes Hur would later excuse on the grounds of his mental infirmity.

Biden’s interviews with his biographer, Mark Zwonitzer, conducted four years before he would be elected president, show that Biden was already having trouble remembering names and dates.

Hur was tasked with determining whether Biden had committed the same crimes that led later to charges against President Trump — retaining classified material, mishandling such material, and related crimes.

It turns out that Biden had already admitted to these alleged crimes, years before the documents were found in various offices and the garage of his home.

I wrote for years about Biden’s absurd denials after files were found in offices where he was working on his book. There was also evidence that the material had been divided, distributed, and transported between different locations.

Despite all the evidence of knowledge and use of the classified materials, Biden and his aides suggested that no one had been aware of its removal and repeated transfer. In the meantime, after the raid on Mar-a-Lago to search for classified material removed by Trump, the Justice Department granted Biden and his team every possible accommodation.

Then came the searches of his home, with the pictures of files in his garage, office, and other locations. These included clearly marked classified material.

Hur then issued his report, concluding that there was evidence of the crimes, but that he would still not charge Biden as Special Counsel Jack Smith had done with Trump. The report stated that “President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.” It further stated that the clearly marked classified material was “stored in unsecure places” and posed a risk of “serious damage to America’s national security.”

For his part, Biden was defiant and, when confronted about the documents, insisted that “They’re mine,” and that other presidents had done what he did. This was the same president who condemned Trump for retaining classified information. Biden mocked Trump’s defense and asked CBS 60 Minutes how “anyone could be that irresponsible.”

We now know that Biden himself was that irresponsible, if not more so. Biden not only kept classified material longer and in even less secure locations, but he did nothing to protect the material as he attacked Trump over Mar-a-Lago.

Nevertheless, Hur declared that he would not bring a single charge because Biden “would likely present himself to a jury, as he did in our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.”

The tapes show Biden struggling to give answers even before he announced his candidacy for the presidency, despite denials from key aides such as Jen Psaki and Karine Jean-Pierre. However, Hur had actual tapes showing that Biden had clear memory and knowledge of his retention of classified material. Combined with Biden’s later public statements, the combination would have been deadly at trial.

In the interview, Biden read “nearly verbatim” from notebooks containing sensitive national security and foreign policy information, according to Hur. On the tapes, Biden is heard saying, “So this was, I early on, um, in ’09 I just found all the classified stuff downstairs.” At another point, he states, “Some of this may be classified, so be careful with it.” He repeatedly mentions that some of the items in his office and home may be classified.

He even brags to his ghostwriter, in a report made on Oct. 10, 2016, that “I have extensive notes over this period of time … They didn’t know I have this.”

Once again, the Justice Department had already declared and defended in court the idea that such removal and retention of classified material did constitute a federal crime by a president, let alone a vice president. Where Trump acknowledged his retention of classified material and agreed to security measures that the FBI requested, Biden did not inform anyone of his classified materials and kept them in his garage long after the Mar-a-Lago raids. Meanwhile, in public, he expressed shock that any president would act as recklessly as Trump.

It is hard to see how any of that would present “a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.” It sounds more like a cynical, shrewd politician with poor ethics. It also sounds like it would have been a strong foundation for a prosecution.

For many, the tapes will reinforce the view of a two-tier legal system, long maintained by the Justice Department, whereby key Democratic figures including Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were given favorable treatment while others were indicted for similar conduct.

What is truly galling for some of us is that Biden knew all of this when he went public to attack Hur for suggesting that he had knowingly retained classified material and showed diminished mental faculties— at one point forgetting when his son Beau died.  Biden savaged Hur at the time for raising this issue, famously demanding, “How the hell dare he raise that?” Even that was a lie, because it was Biden who had raised Beau’s death in the interview.

After the report, Biden was still denying that he had retained classified material, even though he had discussed that classified material with his ghostwriter years earlier and had admitted as much to Hur. But before the public, Biden declared, “I’ve seen headlines since the report was released about my willful retention of documents. This assertion is not only misleading, it’s just plain wrong.”

The record is now largely complete. So is the inescapable conclusion: Biden lacked clarity on most everything but his alleged crimes. His deception and culpability were established in both the Zwonitzer and Hur interviews. Biden gave Hur a virtual confession, and Hur gave him a pass.

https://jonathanturley.org/2026/08/03/the-confession-of-joe-biden/

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Re: More classified documents found
« Reply #365 on: August 03, 2026, 09:13:01 PM »
-Blame everyone? Who besides Biden and Trump am I blaming?

I already agreed that both of these men broke the law. You ignore that neither of them, regardless of what position they held, had the legal right to take them.

However, you and I differ on what should be the major concern or the point.

For you it seems to be who, what position they held and when the documents were taken. For me it is the security, the number of documents, and the refusal to return them that stand out.

It amuses and disappoints me that whenever you and I disagree, you resort to using the worn-out term, 'word salad' to describe my detailed and researched replies.


DNR more word salad no doubt & no answer as to why Pedo Joe had classified documents from
14yrs back & was a Senator. I Guess you're fine with that.  ::)

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« Reply #366 on: August 03, 2026, 10:11:43 PM »
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« Reply #367 on: August 12, 2026, 08:21:23 PM »

DNR more word salad no doubt & no answer as to why Pedo Joe had classified documents from
14yrs back & was a Senator. I Guess you're fine with that.  ::)

You are correct. I am more okay with President Biden having a total of 88 classified documents, some of which were in his handwritten personal notebooks in his home and office than I am with Trump hoarding and refusing to return to the National Archives 300 classified documents scattered about private club with a membership of 500 folks and whose affiliations are kept private and thus it will forever be unknown as to whether they were or are foreign nationals.