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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1525 on: July 06, 2024, 06:54:14 AM »
"In a bizarre op-ed, Huffington Post writer Kaivan Shroff suggested that the President Joe Biden and his campaign should consider using artificial intelligence to dupe the American people into voting for him."



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/huffpost-encourages-biden-campaign-openly-push-disinformation-using-ai

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1526 on: July 06, 2024, 07:51:30 AM »

LOL!

There are a few realistic congressional Dems that are trying to oust this husk on Monday. The emperor has no clothes...it's just like the story. This has been going on for YEARS now.

"I beat Donald Trump and I'll beat him again in 2020" - Biden YESTERDAY

Bring on the next Manchurian Candidate.

You missed my point entirely. Let me see if I can draw it crayon for you.

First, I do believe that Joe Biden should not only withdraw from the race but actually resign; I don’t think he has the sharpness of mind or the physical and mental stamina the position requires, nor the ability to deal with the incredible stress that comes with the role. Anyone that suggests otherwise is lying: either to himself or to others.

With that out of the way, my point was (and pay attention here!) that the Biden that showed up at the debate was very, very different one than the Biden that showed up at the interview. Neither of them were “sharp as a tack” but the latter was at least aware of where he was and able to string two words together; the former just wasn’t and that’s really not disputable.

Interview Biden’s performance at the debate, with all its various Bidenisms, would have likely been enough to not freak everyone out and not expose the full extent of his mental (and physical!) decline for all to see in 4K. But that’s not to say Interview Biden was great. He wasn’t and I’m not suggesting otherwise.

And no, saying 2020 over 2024 isn’t a real concern for me. Let’s be realistic here. We all misspeak and Biden does more than most and always has. Trump himself has done so himself, on multiple occasions. It happens to us all and it can be funny but it is neither disqualifying nor, by itself, proof that someone is senile and not all there.

Biden dug a hole for himself. It’s deep enough that he ain’t getting out. And you don’t need to grasp at straws to make the point.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1527 on: July 06, 2024, 08:04:03 AM »
A much more cogent and lucid Biden showed up for the interview. If that Biden had shown up at the debate, we wouldn’t be having these conversations.

But this Biden didn’t show up. The other one did, and this interview just simply isn’t enough to erase that debate appearance—and it shouldn’t be. As I mentioned earlier, even if Biden knocked it out of the park in this interview, it would probably not be enough and it really wasn’t.
Of course we would. Biden hasn't been able to string together a coherent speech and has been rambling, fumbling and stuttering his words for years. Now you may go dig one up somewhere to use as a "gotcha" moment, but I doubt you'll find one.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1528 on: July 06, 2024, 09:11:43 AM »
Of course we would. Biden hasn't been able to string together a coherent speech and has been rambling, fumbling and stuttering his words for years. Now you may go dig one up somewhere to use as a "gotcha" moment, but I doubt you'll find one.
  We need age caps on every level of government, nobody should be running anything after 70-75 years of age.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1529 on: July 06, 2024, 10:00:40 AM »
Of course we would. Biden hasn't been able to string together a coherent speech and has been rambling, fumbling and stuttering his words for years. Now you may go dig one up somewhere to use as a "gotcha" moment, but I doubt you'll find one.

Let me be clear: conversations about Biden’s fitness would be happening even if he aced the debate while riding a unicycle across a highwire. My point, which I could have made better, was that those conversations wouldn’t be so widespread. If he’d aced the debate, we’d be having a very different conversation.


We need age caps on every level of government, nobody should be running anything after 70-75 years of age.

I agree, especially for the Presidency. The stakes are just too high.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1530 on: July 06, 2024, 10:27:53 AM »
We're all being played.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1531 on: July 06, 2024, 10:30:36 AM »
We're all being played.
This! Those affected are the ones who can least tolerate it.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1532 on: July 06, 2024, 10:53:33 AM »
Joe’s on the Ball 🤣😂🤣

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1533 on: July 06, 2024, 11:41:03 AM »
You missed my point entirely. Let me see if I can draw it crayon for you.

First, I do believe that Joe Biden should not only withdraw from the race but actually resign; I don’t think he has the sharpness of mind or the physical and mental stamina the position requires, nor the ability to deal with the incredible stress that comes with the role. Anyone that suggests otherwise is lying: either to himself or to others.

With that out of the way, my point was (and pay attention here!) that the Biden that showed up at the debate was very, very different one than the Biden that showed up at the interview. Neither of them were “sharp as a tack” but the latter was at least aware of where he was and able to string two words together; the former just wasn’t and that’s really not disputable.

Interview Biden’s performance at the debate, with all its various Bidenisms, would have likely been enough to not freak everyone out and not expose the full extent of his mental (and physical!) decline for all to see in 4K. But that’s not to say Interview Biden was great. He wasn’t and I’m not suggesting otherwise.

And no, saying 2020 over 2024 isn’t a real concern for me. Let’s be realistic here. We all misspeak and Biden does more than most and always has. Trump himself has done so himself, on multiple occasions. It happens to us all and it can be funny but it is neither disqualifying nor, by itself, proof that someone is senile and not all there.

Biden dug a hole for himself. It’s deep enough that he ain’t getting out. And you don’t need to grasp at straws to make the point.




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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1535 on: July 06, 2024, 11:48:15 AM »
As of two weeks ago Joe was as strong as a horse.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1536 on: July 07, 2024, 12:34:23 AM »
As of two weeks ago Joe was as strong as a horse.
Now getting beat like a dead horse.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1537 on: July 07, 2024, 04:33:48 PM »
Now getting beat like a dead horse.

IroNat's comment was sarcasm. I guess yours is too.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1538 on: July 07, 2024, 04:38:00 PM »
IroNat's comment was sarcasm. I guess yours is too.


Nah - Pedo Joe's as sharp as a tack & totally cognitive with it isn't he ?
So you've said over & over again & you're never ever wrong are you.
Check what Google says 👌🤣😂🤣  🤡

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1539 on: July 07, 2024, 05:45:14 PM »

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1540 on: July 08, 2024, 08:29:23 AM »
Skip to comments.

Biden’s Strategy to Make the Race About Trump Is Suddenly in Doubt
The New York Times | Yahoo ^ | July 8, 2024 | by Reid J. Epstein
Posted on 7/8/2024, 9:40:24 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

From the outset of President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, the plan for winning was to make former President Donald Trump so unpalatable that voters uneasy with the incumbent would vote for him anyway.

But now Biden is stuck in a political tailspin, with an abysmal debate performance highlighting his inability to make a case against Trump and prompting a collective national hand-wringing about his ability to do his job while an increasing number of House Democrats say he should leave the race. To get voters to focus on the threats posed by a second Trump administration, Biden’s own allies say he first must escape his current doom loop and convince voters — even and especially fellow Democrats — that he is up to the job himself.

Indeed, the Biden campaign has long sought to make Trump its focus.

That’s why Biden kicked off this year with a blistering speech about Trump’s attempt to overthrow the last election, why his allies spent millions to block the No Labels effort and why the president has tried to highlight the anniversaries of news regarding abortion rights.

And it is why Biden’s top aides thought it was a good idea to move the first debate from September to June.

“From the beginning, it’s been clear that Biden and the Democrats must make this election a choice, not a referendum on the president,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder of Third Way, the Democratic think tank that has led efforts to stop independent and third-party candidates from siphoning votes from Biden. “That means focusing voter attention on Trump’s criminality, chaos and cruelty. Once we emerge from this period of uncertainty, the party must get back to prosecuting that case full time.”

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1541 on: July 08, 2024, 08:47:25 AM »
Let me be clear: conversations about Biden’s fitness would be happening even if he aced the debate while riding a unicycle across a highwire. My point, which I could have made better, was that those conversations wouldn’t be so widespread. If he’d aced the debate, we’d be having a very different conversation.


I agree, especially for the Presidency. The stakes are just too high.

He couldn't have "aced" that (or any) even if he was cognitive. He literally has nothing to run on and still wouldn't have been able to answer, think Newsom/DeSantis

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1542 on: July 08, 2024, 11:36:52 AM »
"The primary candidates for the VP slot are Sens. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Gov. Doug Burgum (R-ND), according to the Washington Post."

Trump chops VP short list down to three: Report
By Mike Brest
July 7, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3072242/trump-chops-vp-shortlist-three/

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1543 on: July 08, 2024, 11:38:45 AM »
Congressional Democrats plan meetings to discuss Biden's 2024 prospects
House Democratic committee leaders will meet next week as some in the party question whether Biden can continue in the race. Some senators are organizing their own sit-down.
July 5, 2024
By Kate Santaliz, Julie Tsirkin, Scott Wong and Frank Thorp V
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/senate-democrats-are-planning-meeting-discuss-biden-week-rcna160498

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1544 on: July 08, 2024, 11:41:24 AM »
Current Hawaii Governor Josh Green (a doctor) disagrees.

Former Hawaii Govs. Waihee, Cayetano, Abercrombie call on Biden to end campaign
By Dan Nakaso
July 6, 2024
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/07/06/breaking-news/former-hawaii-govs-waihee-cayetano-abercrombie-call-on-biden-to-end-campaign/

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1545 on: July 08, 2024, 11:42:21 AM »
How Kamala Harris's affair with a much-older Democrat kingpin catapulted her career... and his prophetic warning about her future prospects in White House
By GERMANIA RODRIGUEZ POLEO, CHIEF U.S. REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  6 July 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13604289/kamala-harris-affair-san-francisco-willie-brown.html

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1546 on: July 08, 2024, 11:56:31 AM »
Emerson Poll: Donald Trump Leads Biden in Every Key Swing State
Breitbart ^ | 07/08/2024 | WENDELL HUSEBØ
Posted on 7/8/2024, 2:40:49 PM by ChicagoConservative27

Former President Donald Trump leads President Joe Biden in six swing states, an Emerson/DemNextGen poll found Monday, further fueling fears among Democrats about Biden’s political viability.

Trump leads in every swing state by at least three points, except in Michigan, where he leads by one:

Pennsylvania – Trump: 48% (+5) Biden: 43% Wisconsin – Trump: 47% (+3) Biden: 44% Michigan – Trump: 45% (+1) Biden: 44% Nevada – Trump: 47% (+6) Biden: 41% Arizona – Trump: 46% (+4) Biden: 42% Georgia – Trump: 47% (+5) Biden: 42% Biden trails Trump in ever key swing state, per new Emerson/DemNextGen poll conducted after debate pic.twitter.com/k06OIC6SCr

— Alex Ward (@alexbward) July 8, 2024

Trump increased his lead over Biden in Georgia (+1), Nevada (+4), and Pennsylvania (+3), the July Emerson poll shows compared to June’s poll.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1547 on: July 08, 2024, 01:04:27 PM »
Emerson Poll: Donald Trump Leads Biden in Every Key Swing State
Breitbart ^ | 07/08/2024 | WENDELL HUSEBØ
Posted on 7/8/2024, 2:40:49 PM by ChicagoConservative27

Former President Donald Trump leads President Joe Biden in six swing states, an Emerson/DemNextGen poll found Monday, further fueling fears among Democrats about Biden’s political viability.

Trump leads in every swing state by at least three points, except in Michigan, where he leads by one:

Pennsylvania – Trump: 48% (+5) Biden: 43% Wisconsin – Trump: 47% (+3) Biden: 44% Michigan – Trump: 45% (+1) Biden: 44% Nevada – Trump: 47% (+6) Biden: 41% Arizona – Trump: 46% (+4) Biden: 42% Georgia – Trump: 47% (+5) Biden: 42% Biden trails Trump in ever key swing state, per new Emerson/DemNextGen poll conducted after debate pic.twitter.com/k06OIC6SCr

— Alex Ward (@alexbward) July 8, 2024

Trump increased his lead over Biden in Georgia (+1), Nevada (+4), and Pennsylvania (+3), the July Emerson poll shows compared to June’s poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

Biden won in 2020 by 4.5 percentage points.  Even if he wins by 2 points, he’ll probably lose in the electoral college.  I don't predict 49-1 like in '72 and '84, but I see a serious shellacking at this point.

Regarding Biden's candidacy, the next week or two will be interesting.  August in Chicago will be wild unless the Mayor and IL gov grow some cashews.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1548 on: July 08, 2024, 01:21:41 PM »
How Kamala Harris's affair with a much-older Democrat kingpin catapulted her career... and his prophetic warning about her future prospects in White House
By GERMANIA RODRIGUEZ POLEO, CHIEF U.S. REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  6 July 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13604289/kamala-harris-affair-san-francisco-willie-brown.html

I recently spent some time with an old navy buddy - a Republican who despises Trump.  He raised the possibility that Newsom, Whitmer, or Harris can carry the torch for the Democrats if Biden doesn’t.  I described some of Newsom and Whitmer’s policies and Harris’ history.  He had no idea.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1549 on: July 08, 2024, 01:33:11 PM »
I recently spent some time with an old navy buddy - a Republican who despises Trump.  He raised the possibility that Newsom, Whitmer, or Harris can carry the torch for the Democrats if Biden doesn’t.  I described some of Newsom and Whitmer’s policies and Harris’ history.  He had no idea.

Your navy buddy had no idea about what? These folks history as you described it or no idea who they would vote for having heard this from you?