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Re: If we don't stop A.I. right now, our futures are gone
« Reply #150 on: July 28, 2025, 01:25:18 PM »
AI, such as ChatGPT adapts to the individual user and remembers everything. To an extent, it would develop a unique type of personality.

So longer-term it would be interesting to see the effects of this, imagine several decades of user experience with the same AI?

Eventually, I think everyone will have some kind of assistance bot.

What we see in Blade Runner 2049 with the holographic Joi companion is eventually possible and probably not too far off.

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« Reply #151 on: July 28, 2025, 07:39:10 PM »
You're thinking about this all wrong.  This is the approach of GM, Chrysler, IBM, Blackberry, Blockbuster, Tower Records, Atari, and Commodore took.  There are new Amazon's, Netflix, and Tesla's being started at this moment.  The companies that think they can plod along for 10 years are in for a rude awakening and likely extinction.  Look at what Amazon did to retail, or Netflix did to movies and television.  Entire industries are going to be flipped upside down.

I appreciate your response. I am often the dumbest guy in the room, I understand.

However You prove my point. Please take a moment.

new Tech is adopted - accepted - adapted —> new markets and new jobs are created. If you agree with my statement then you agree with me.

I said 2030+ is when adaptation will begin and this includes re-skilling and restructuring the workforce on scale, not cherry picked bits today. If you think that is reasonable, then you agree with me. That’s only 5yrs away.

New tech requires a functioning economy to roll out. I don’t subscribe to the thinking that 40% unemployment rates are coming for us. Computers didn’t do it. Mobile phones didn’t do it. Internet didn’t do it. Where is the evidence to support such views?

Computers allowed us to make things faster
AI allows us to make things faster
We are speeding up = production increases, not declines

You might want to watch some videos on China infrastructure, shopping and living. We have a looooong time to play catch-up and that will be the boom just like they had 😉

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« Reply #152 on: July 28, 2025, 08:24:52 PM »
The best we can hope for is to be better at what we do than AI and that wont last forever.

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« Reply #153 on: July 28, 2025, 09:19:00 PM »
I appreciate your response. I am often the dumbest guy in the room, I understand.

However You prove my point. Please take a moment.

new Tech is adopted - accepted - adapted —> new markets and new jobs are created. If you agree with my statement then you agree with me.

I said 2030+ is when adaptation will begin and this includes re-skilling and restructuring the workforce on scale, not cherry picked bits today. If you think that is reasonable, then you agree with me. That’s only 5yrs away.


I'm not agreeing with any of your premise.  In new Tech there are early adopters, late adopters, and never adopters.  Some people bought a smart phone when they first came out, some people waited five years, and some people still don't have a smart phone. 

Here's an interview with the founder of Google and the head of it's AI.
@8:10 they talk about whether AGI will be achieved before 2030 or after.


My point is you are trying to make predictions of what will happen out to 2030 and the reality is the people developing it don't even know. 

@13:00 Sergey discusses why he came back to Google.  I bring this up because it describe the mindset of those in Tech right now regarding AI.  The enthusiasm is sky high.  We don't know where this is going.  I'm unwilling to predict one year out, much less five years out.


Blockbuster and Tower Record wanted a slow and orderly tech transition, but it didn't happen.  They were gone over night.



 

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« Reply #154 on: July 28, 2025, 10:35:59 PM »
The biggest fear for society as a whole is that pro bodybuilding could be replaced by AI. Think of how lean and grainy AI robots could get as they don the thong onstage.

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Re: If we don't stop A.I. right now, our futures are gone
« Reply #155 on: July 29, 2025, 01:15:03 AM »
I'm not agreeing with any of your premise.  In new Tech there are early adopters, late adopters, and never adopters.  Some people bought a smart phone when they first came out, some people waited five years, and some people still don't have a smart phone. 

Here's an interview with the founder of Google and the head of it's AI.
@8:10 they talk about whether AGI will be achieved before 2030 or after.


My point is you are trying to make predictions of what will happen out to 2030 and the reality is the people developing it don't even know. 

@13:00 Sergey discusses why he came back to Google.  I bring this up because it describe the mindset of those in Tech right now regarding AI.  The enthusiasm is sky high.  We don't know where this is going.  I'm unwilling to predict one year out, much less five years out.


Blockbuster and Tower Record wanted a slow and orderly tech transition, but it didn't happen.  They were gone over night.
 

It’s perfectly ok for you to have no idea but that doesn’t mean you then say nobody else could possibly know anything more than you.

There are adoption models mate and project portfolios running IT that spit out timeframes.

Why single me out and not the guys saying it’s here right now and we’re going to 40% unemployment?

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« Reply #156 on: July 29, 2025, 04:38:25 AM »

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« Reply #157 on: July 29, 2025, 08:13:33 AM »
15 Jobs That AI Could Never Replace

https://blog.cheapism.com/artificial-intelligence-proof-jobs/
That list is a joke. Human Resources, teachers, social workers? ::) Tradesmen will have their jobs but most "girl jobs" are done for. Thousands of journalists have already been replaced and teachers should have been replaced a long time ago.

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« Reply #158 on: July 29, 2025, 05:48:40 PM »

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« Reply #159 on: August 03, 2025, 01:54:50 AM »
This is all very concerning, I am hoping it's all a hype bubble and it won't destroy the livelihoods of millions of people. Many getbiggers are already set for life, being early bitcoin investors, so they have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately for me, I am not part of that group.

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« Reply #160 on: August 03, 2025, 04:10:30 AM »

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« Reply #161 on: August 03, 2025, 04:24:22 AM »
This is all very concerning, I am hoping it's all a hype bubble and it won't destroy the livelihoods of millions of people. Many getbiggers are already set for life, being early bitcoin investors, so they have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately for me, I am not part of that group.
Not a bubble. Many American workers will indeed be displaced and we will see a new caste system in America where it will be almost impossible for most  to ascend  passed the bottom rung economically. We are on the cusp of Socialism in America, caused ironically not by University intellectuals but by Big Tech.

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« Reply #162 on: August 04, 2025, 08:09:30 AM »
Not a bubble. Many American workers will indeed be displaced and we will see a new caste system in America where it will be almost impossible for most  to ascend  passed the bottom rung economically. We are on the cusp of Socialism in America, caused ironically not by University intellectuals but by Big Tech.
This will kill universities as well. Why go to school when all that will be available after graduation is UBI?

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« Reply #163 on: August 04, 2025, 12:59:47 PM »
Apologies if already posted.

Meta dishes out $250M to lure 24-year-old AI whiz kid: ‘We have reached the climax of ‘Revenge of the Nerds

https://nypost.com/2025/08/01/business/meta-pays-250m-to-lure-24-year-old-ai-whiz-kid-we-have-reached-the-climax-of-revenge-of-the-nerds/

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« Reply #164 on: August 04, 2025, 01:02:25 PM »

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« Reply #165 on: August 04, 2025, 01:06:23 PM »
Once AI fully hits there will only be two classes, the ultra wealthy and the ultra impoverished. Good luck, Folks!
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« Reply #166 on: August 05, 2025, 08:07:43 AM »
Once AI fully hits there will only be two classes, the ultra wealthy and the ultra impoverished. Good luck, Folks!
Getbiggers are already in the ultra wealthy class. No change.

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« Reply #167 on: August 05, 2025, 08:57:21 AM »
I’m two years behind on this whole thing but have been using it recently and in my industry I believe it will also cause loss of jobs in certain roles. Shit I have had it write change order justifications and even help compose my proposals for graded RFP’s.

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« Reply #168 on: August 05, 2025, 09:12:22 AM »
Apologies if already posted.

Meta dishes out $250M to lure 24-year-old AI whiz kid: ‘We have reached the climax of ‘Revenge of the Nerds

https://nypost.com/2025/08/01/business/meta-pays-250m-to-lure-24-year-old-ai-whiz-kid-we-have-reached-the-climax-of-revenge-of-the-nerds/
And he'll still be a virgin. ;D

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Re: If we don't stop A.I. right now, our futures are gone
« Reply #169 on: August 08, 2025, 10:10:44 PM »
The agenda is to reduce the population via vaccines, wars, hunger etc and use AI for full control. Everything was planned decades ago.

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« Reply #170 on: August 09, 2025, 01:00:59 AM »
The agenda is to reduce the population via vaccines, wars, hunger etc and use AI for full control. Everything was planned decades ago.
I can remember as far back as the early 70s hearing the term "new world order "
There's definitely an Agenda of depopulation

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« Reply #171 on: August 09, 2025, 08:55:30 AM »
I can remember as far back as the early 70s hearing the term "new world order "
There's definitely an Agenda of depopulation
It was all written on the Georgia Guidestones until they destroyed them a few years ago.

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« Reply #172 on: August 09, 2025, 09:13:24 AM »
It was all written on the Georgia Guidestones until they destroyed them a few years ago.
I never knew about them ..interesting

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« Reply #173 on: August 11, 2025, 01:36:05 AM »
Once AI fully hits there will only be two classes, the ultra wealthy and the ultra impoverished. Good luck, Folks!
This is my fear, unfortunately, I did not buy bitcoins on time.

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« Reply #174 on: August 11, 2025, 06:09:01 AM »
And he'll still be a virgin. ;D

And wears socks with sandals.