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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2023, 03:59:16 PM »

Many years ago I remember Phil Hernon was involved in selling the follistatin, praising it to the high heavens. Of course it did nothing, excepting one or two that thought they saw something. I'm pretty sure they finally tested the product and it was bunk.

bhank, come on now, you don't seriously believe anything Phil says publicly or do you. He pushes some peptides now and there is always a link to the place selling it. I am positive Phil has used/tried IGFLR3 but this latest balonie pure marketing, nothing else.

Some of the peptides are interesting and have some uses but none, except gh and insulin, are absolutely essential for even the highest level competition. IGF is like a super insulin, if you are lean it can give nice vascularity and "fullness" but if it builds muscle it's minute. I would do it peak week maybe.

You gave up on the insulin after a week or something. WTF you can't decide shit after such a short trial. What I would recommend, and I'm sure you will not do it, is to get on Metformin, even if do no other drugs whatsoever. If not Metformin then berberine which might work just as well. Both of these drugs can make you shit so I'm sure you don't have the patience to get acclimated. For the past several years I've thought insulin sensitivity is probably the most important parameter to improve. For a bb, for anyone getting up in age. I would also do old school supps like chromium picolinate (I'm trying 1000mcg now, the tabs are usually 200mcg. Swanson has a megadosed tab with 2000mcg) and Lipoic acid (n-r-ala) magnesium (whatever type has high bioavailability and doesn't give you diarrhea), Cardarine if you're not afraid of cancer, and whatever else could be important for insulin action.

Peg MGF is basically IGF but targets just your muscle and has been pegulated to stay in the blood longer. Phil Heath not Hernon is the one who says he takes IGF 1 now instead of HGH when he was competing. I do believe HGH works and is noticeable I believe Peg MGF does have the science behind it but I also just ordered a months worth so will see. I am lean enough I can tell the difference when I run HGH I should be able to tell if the MGF is working. Its not just about hypertrophy but also healing possible nerve damage it is supposed to be good for the heart as well. 

I am more concerned about healing my chest tear and shoulder injuries than adding absolute mass

https://www.genemedics.com/pegylated-mechano-growth-factor

Also there have been a lot of heart related issues in older bodybuilders

Prevents Heart Disease
Studies show that PEG-MGF can help protect against cardiovascular disease:

In sheeps, PEG-MGF protected the heart muscle from ischemia (reduced blood supply) and improved heart function after a heart attack. [16]
A study reported that PEG-MGF can help lower the risk of heart disease by preventing programmed cell death of heart muscle cells. [17]
PEG-MGF has also been shown to regulate the migration and proliferation of stem cells in the heart. [18]
A study found that PEG-MGF plays an integral role in the growth and formation of human heart tissues. [19]
In rats, localized delivery of PEG-MGF improved cardiac function following heart attack. [20]

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2023, 04:40:38 PM »
so what was the cause of the bleeding anus?

Coop.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2023, 04:42:45 PM »

Many years ago I remember Phil Hernon was involved in selling the follistatin, praising it to the high heavens. Of course it did nothing, excepting one or two that thought they saw something. I'm pretty sure they finally tested the product and it was bunk.

bhank, come on now, you don't seriously believe anything Phil says publicly or do you. He pushes some peptides now and there is always a link to the place selling it. I am positive Phil has used/tried IGFLR3 but this latest balonie pure marketing, nothing else.

Some of the peptides are interesting and have some uses but none, except gh and insulin, are absolutely essential for even the highest level competition. IGF is like a super insulin, if you are lean it can give nice vascularity and "fullness" but if it builds muscle it's minute. I would do it peak week maybe.

You gave up on the insulin after a week or something. WTF you can't decide shit after such a short trial. What I would recommend, and I'm sure you will not do it, is to get on Metformin, even if do no other drugs whatsoever. If not Metformin then berberine which might work just as well. Both of these drugs can make you shit so I'm sure you don't have the patience to get acclimated. For the past several years I've thought insulin sensitivity is probably the most important parameter to improve. For a bb, for anyone getting up in age. I would also do old school supps like chromium picolinate (I'm trying 1000mcg now, the tabs are usually 200mcg. Swanson has a megadosed tab with 2000mcg) and Lipoic acid (n-r-ala) magnesium (whatever type has high bioavailability and doesn't give you diarrhea), Cardarine if you're not afraid of cancer, and whatever else could be important for insulin action.

Well, he's not selling it any more.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2023, 05:30:18 PM »
Peg MGF is basically IGF but targets just your muscle and has been pegulated to stay in the blood longer. Phil Heath not Hernon is the one who says he takes IGF 1 now instead of HGH when he was competing. I do believe HGH works and is noticeable I believe Peg MGF does have the science behind it but I also just ordered a months worth so will see. I am lean enough I can tell the difference when I run HGH I should be able to tell if the MGF is working. Its not just about hypertrophy but also healing possible nerve damage it is supposed to be good for the heart as well. 

I am more concerned about healing my chest tear and shoulder injuries than adding absolute mass

https://www.genemedics.com/pegylated-mechano-growth-factor

Also there have been a lot of heart related issues in older bodybuilders

Prevents Heart Disease
Studies show that PEG-MGF can help protect against cardiovascular disease:

In sheeps, PEG-MGF protected the heart muscle from ischemia (reduced blood supply) and improved heart function after a heart attack. [16]
A study reported that PEG-MGF can help lower the risk of heart disease by preventing programmed cell death of heart muscle cells. [17]
PEG-MGF has also been shown to regulate the migration and proliferation of stem cells in the heart. [18]
A study found that PEG-MGF plays an integral role in the growth and formation of human heart tissues. [19]
In rats, localized delivery of PEG-MGF improved cardiac function following heart attack. [20]

Thought you couldn't afford HGH you lying cum bubble

You denied having nerve damage left and right you lying fuck stick

Maybe that stuff will heal your torn asshole....it can't fix your stupid though....

You're a fucking cockroach....plain and simple.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2023, 05:37:37 PM »
Thought you couldn't afford HGH you lying cum bubble

You denied having nerve damage left and right you lying fuck stick

Maybe that stuff will heal your torn asshole....it can't fix your stupid though....

You're a fucking cockroach....plain and simple.

Haters going to hate 1 workout in two weeks and still make you look like a slob. 211lbs with abs and arms looking good I will be better than ever soon enough

Cutting weight was a mistake but I am recovering now

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2023, 05:41:25 PM »
Haters going to hate 1 workout in two weeks and still make you look like a slob. 211lbs with abs and arms looking good I will be better than ever soon enough

Cutting weight was a mistake but I am growing now

Put your arms down you over blown twat....you don't impress anyone.  Geezus you have less of a chest than some 8yo girl.

You look like shit...and I can only imagine what the room smells like.   Fuck off and die....your face is a perfect target to get punched......repeatedly.


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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2023, 05:52:19 PM »
Put your arms down you over blown twat....you don't impress anyone.  Geezus you have less of a chest than some 8yo girl.

You look like shit...and I can only imagine what the room smells like.   Fuck off and die....your face is a perfect target to get punched......repeatedly.

If I didn't know the backstory ie the copious amounts of drugs and absolutely horrific caliber of food that he ingests, I'd never say he looks like shit.  That being said, he is absolutely destroying his insides and continuously puts band aids ie new meds to temporarily make his bloodwork look as though he isn't killing himself. 

What I don't get is just how fucking stubborn he is.  He obviously does or takes something to stay very lean all while eating ridiculous amounts of calories and bad calories at that.  For the love of god, why not eat 5000 good calories a day for 8 weeks and see not only how he looks but how he feels too. 

As for his training.  What in the fuck is the point of squatting with already fucked knees?  What in the fuck is the point of bench pressing with a horribly torn pec and bicep? 

All this aside, I'm eagerly anticipating his run at his pro card at this years Masters Nationals.  Go Hankins!

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2023, 05:55:19 PM »
Haters going to hate 1 workout in two weeks and still make you look like a slob. 211lbs with abs and arms looking good I will be better than ever soon enough

Cutting weight was a mistake but I am recovering now

Looking great Brian!

Arms improved
Nerve damage completely eradicated 
Lats are hanging low - highlighting the X frame!
Waist significantly downsized

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2023, 05:56:56 PM »
Things never change.

hanky starts thread looking for advice/input.

Claims he already knows everything and argues with everyone about everything.

You guys do realize this is what he does to boost his fragile ego?

He is feeding off of this.

It's his way to fill the void in his life and confirm he is as smart as he thinks he is, at least to himself and his alter ego.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2023, 06:40:08 PM »
Neither bicep is torn both biceps are good the right arm has a reattached tricep that is why it doesn't look as full the right bicep is 100% the left one has a better peak from the front side because its outside tendon is dettached on the backside. The right one actually looks better from the backside and has more strength potential as all of its tendons are intact but neither has ever been torn both have a decent peak. Both biceps are round and full and have a peak the difference is the tricep. There is no nerve damage the tricep was physically reattached higher further from the elbow so it doesnt look as full it is shorter. The biceps are the same size the tricep is the difference

You don't look like you have ever lifted a weight.

You melted your internal organs to look like a junkie.

Your old man took it in the ass, phaggot.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2023, 08:07:33 PM »
Not on anything have been on my death bed but ready to start training from
here which isn’t too bad all things considering

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #87 on: May 10, 2023, 12:34:34 AM »
Phil Heath not Hernon is the one who says he takes IGF 1 now instead of HGH when he was competing. I do believe HGH works and is noticeable Iattack.

You are not listening. What I was trying to convey with the Hernon story is that there's a huge chance you get a fake product. A certain chemist analyzing peptides in Europe says the IGF1LR3 is much worse quality than in the past. His theory was that the current product has been sitting in warehouses for years and is degraded. The feedback from users is that most IGF is shit but some is good, impossibke to know beforehand.

Show me where Phil Heath talks about IGF where he isn't selling it via proxy. He is sponsored by a fake "HRT clinic." No serious actor sells Chinese peptides they don't even analyze.

Peg MGF - almost everyone says they saw nothing from it. It's not a popular product at all.

What is popular is GH.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #88 on: May 10, 2023, 01:20:57 AM »
You are not listening. What I was trying to convey with the Hernon story is that there's a huge chance you get a fake product. A certain chemist analyzing peptides in Europe says the IGF1LR3 is much worse quality than in the past. His theory was that the current product has been sitting in warehouses for years and is degraded. The feedback from users is that most IGF is shit but some is good, impossibke to know beforehand.

Show me where Phil Heath talks about IGF where he isn't selling it via proxy. He is sponsored by a fake "HRT clinic." No serious actor sells Chinese peptides they don't even analyze.

Peg MGF - almost everyone says they saw nothing from it. It's not a popular product at all.

What is popular is GH.

I agree its probably uselesss

“Start out in the morning with BPC-157 and TB-500,” said Heath. “Before I train, IGF-1. I love that. Before I go to sleep, I take Tesamorelin Ipamorelin and I sleep like a baby. I wake up feeling a lot leaner.

“One cool thing about it is that I don’t have the carpal tunnel and the insulin sensitivity problems I once had doing human growth hormone. That’s a really good injectable stack that I do. Obviously, I’m doing 200 mg of testosterone cypionate.”

https://fitnessvolt.com/phil-heath-favorite-injectable-stack/

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2023, 01:42:57 AM »
I agree its probably uselesss

“Start out in the morning with BPC-157 and TB-500,” said Heath. “Before I train, IGF-1. I love that. Before I go to sleep, I take Tesamorelin Ipamorelin and I sleep like a baby. I wake up feeling a lot leaner.

“One cool thing about it is that I don’t have the carpal tunnel and the insulin sensitivity problems I once had doing human growth hormone. That’s a really good injectable stack that I do. Obviously, I’m doing 200 mg of testosterone cypionate.”

https://fitnessvolt.com/phil-heath-favorite-injectable-stack/

That's usually used to help heal tendon and joint injuries.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2023, 02:20:15 AM »
That's usually used to help heal tendon and joint injuries.

Yeah they say bpc 157 helps the gut as well my interest in peptides is more about healing old injuries than actual hypertrophy the heart benefits also peaked my interest.

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2023, 02:22:47 AM »
Thought you couldn't afford HGH you lying cum bubble

You denied having nerve damage left and right you lying fuck stick

Maybe that stuff will heal your torn asshole....it can't fix your stupid though....

You're a fucking cockroach....plain and simple.

I denied right side nerve damage causing my arm to atrophjy that is not true. I do have lower back issues though also I can not currently afford HGH MGF is much cheaper

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2023, 02:44:06 AM »
Looking great Brian!

Arms improved
Nerve damage completely eradicated 
Lats are hanging low - highlighting the X frame!
Waist significantly downsized

Tell me again how I am not single digit bodyfat tell me how I am 15% you fucking moron

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Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2023, 07:00:11 AM »
I agree its probably uselesss

“Start out in the morning with BPC-157 and TB-500,” said Heath. “Before I train, IGF-1. I love that. Before I go to sleep, I take Tesamorelin Ipamorelin and I sleep like a baby. I wake up feeling a lot leaner.

“One cool thing about it is that I don’t have the carpal tunnel and the insulin sensitivity problems I once had doing human growth hormone. That’s a really good injectable stack that I do. Obviously, I’m doing 200 mg of testosterone cypionate.”

https://fitnessvolt.com/phil-heath-favorite-injectable-stack/

He read a script. Why would he not do a small dose of GH instead of a GHRP? There's no reason except he was compensated by the clinic. If he didn't link to a seller it might be believable.