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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #200 on: May 02, 2006, 05:16:44 PM »
we are saying dorian was overrated because he won solely based on physical size not quality.

Quality is where suffered:

-poor quads from the front
-average arms, poor from the back
-poor taper in the symmetry round (see the 92 pic I just posted)
-even his famous back revealed a not-so-great rear double biceps pose
-wide waist
-few striations (except for lower back)
-not very vascular (sorry, but this does add impressiveness to the arms especially)
-poor delt shape
-only average chest

What you have is a Mr. O. who won because:

-he was a whole lot larger than his nearest competitors
-he had great calves
-he had good abs at one time
-he had great lats.

A 6 time Mr. O. should be a whole lot more than that.

When comparing him to Ronnie at his best, Ronnie has the size AND the quality to go with it:



dorian was a Mr. O. with mediocre arms, chest and quads when viewed from the front.  Sorry, but pics like this do not lie - if he had super impressive chest, arms and delts, this pose would look a whole lot better.

 The most muscular highlights upper body flaws.

Or, if you have them, upper body strengths.

sorry if this is being harsh, but most shots of Dorian do not impress me like you would expect to be impressed by a 6 time Mr. O.

hence, why I believe he was overrated.
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #201 on: May 02, 2006, 05:18:29 PM »
we are saying dorian was overrated because he won solely based on physical size not quality.

Quality is where suffered:

-poor quads from the front
-average arms, poor from the back
-poor taper in the symmetry round (see the 92 pic I just posted)
-even his famous back revealed a not-so-great rear double biceps pose
-wide waist
-few striations (except for lower back)
-not very vascular (sorry, but this does add impressiveness to the arms especially)
-poor delt shape
-only average chest

What you have is a Mr. O. who won because:

-he was a whole lot larger than his nearest competitors
-he had great calves
-he had good abs at one time
-he had great lats.

A 6 time Mr. O. should be a whole lot more than that.

When comparing him to Ronnie at his best, Ronnie has the size AND the quality to go with it:



dorian was a Mr. O. with mediocre arms, chest and quads when viewed from the front.  Sorry, but pics like this do not lie - if he had super impressive chest, arms and delts, this pose would look a whole lot better.

 The most muscular highlights upper body flaws.

Or, if you have them, upper body strengths.

sorry if this is being harsh, but most shots of Dorian do not impress me like you would expect to be impressed by a 6 time Mr. O.

hence, why I believe he was overrated.

  Excellent post. It sums everything up nicely.

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #202 on: May 02, 2006, 05:21:11 PM »
  Excellent post. It sums everything up nicely.

I have been formulating my thesis for a few years now 8)
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #203 on: May 02, 2006, 05:23:05 PM »
I have been formulating my thesis for a few years now 8)

 Unfortunately, so has Narcissistic Deity ;D

 I laughed when I saw "ND's credibility is dead" ;D

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #204 on: May 02, 2006, 05:25:17 PM »
but ND's thesis is full of incorrect, forged data that has no basis in reality 8)

all you have to do is look.

sure, dorian has okay arms when he is by himself (as all the pics that ND posted of his biceps are).

But when he stands next to people onstage, then you realize how bad they really are (eg. Flea Labrada has better arms!)
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #205 on: May 02, 2006, 05:26:49 PM »
I have been formulating my thesis for a few years now 8)

Keep working on it !!

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #206 on: May 02, 2006, 05:26:57 PM »
but ND's thesis is full of incorrect, forged data that has no basis in reality 8)

all you have to do is look.

sure, dorian has okay arms when he is by himself (as all the pics that ND posted of his biceps are).

But when he stands next to people onstage, then you realize how bad they really are (eg. Flea Labrada has better arms!)

  Who coined the term "Flea Labrada" anyway? That one also makes me laugh. ;D

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #207 on: May 02, 2006, 05:28:48 PM »
but ND's thesis is full of incorrect, forged data that has no basis in reality 8)

all you have to do is look.

sure, dorian has okay arms when he is by himself (as all the pics that ND posted of his biceps are).

But when he stands next to people onstage, then you realize how bad they really are (eg. Flea Labrada has better arms!)

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #208 on: May 02, 2006, 05:30:10 PM »
 Who coined the term "Flea Labrada" anyway? That one also makes me laugh. ;D

Lee Haney did .

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #209 on: May 02, 2006, 05:32:31 PM »
Lee Haney did .

 I see that among his other excellent qualities, he also has a sense of humor. After all, he must know that Lee came close to defeating him :o

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #210 on: May 02, 2006, 05:34:27 PM »
I see that among his other excellent qualities, he also has a sense of humor. After all, he must know that Lee came close to defeating him :o

Not according to him lol in his book he didn't veiw Labrada as a threat in 1990 .

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #211 on: May 02, 2006, 05:38:45 PM »
Not according to him lol in his book he didn't veiw Labrada as a threat in 1990 .

  What is your opinion? That contest was a little before my time.

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #212 on: May 02, 2006, 05:43:35 PM »
  What is your opinion? That contest was a little before my time.

Haney was off no question about it and Labrada looked excellent it could have went either way .

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #213 on: May 02, 2006, 05:45:11 PM »
Haney was off no question about it and Labrada looked excellent it could have went either way .

 Wouldn't it have been like Shawn Ray beating Dorian Yates? ???

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #214 on: May 02, 2006, 05:49:49 PM »
Ronnie's massive arms
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #215 on: May 02, 2006, 05:51:17 PM »
Ronnie's massive arms

 Monster biceps :o

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #216 on: May 02, 2006, 06:23:52 PM »
Ronnie's arms dwarf Gunter
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #217 on: May 02, 2006, 06:27:34 PM »
Ronnie's arms dwarf Gunter

 Amen, brother ;D

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #218 on: May 02, 2006, 06:49:04 PM »
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Excellent post. It sums everything up nicely.

I have been formulating my thesis for a few years now
From here on in, just copy & paste former posts.  ;D


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Ronnie's arms dwarf Gunter
To those who claim Gunter's got enough size (not): his arms should dwarf Ron's, not the other way 'round.. ::)

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #219 on: May 02, 2006, 07:12:55 PM »
From here on in, just copy & paste former posts.  ;D

To those who claim Gunter's got enough size (not): his arms should dwarf Ron's, not the other way 'round.. ::)


  Gunter has size, but obviously not enough ;D

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #220 on: May 02, 2006, 07:23:03 PM »
  Gunter has size, but obviously not enough ;D

Jay has better arms
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #221 on: May 02, 2006, 07:26:11 PM »
Jay has better arms

 Did you photoshop Gunter's forearms? :-\

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #222 on: May 02, 2006, 07:27:13 PM »
Did you photoshop Gunter's forearms? :-\

Nope.. that photo is legit
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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #223 on: May 02, 2006, 07:27:20 PM »
i thought this was a mr.o 92 thread?

labrada was best in 91 and 92.

total-lee ripped off. i was there and have the videos as well. Momo wasnt even close, his wide waist and some weird structure ruined him. He was at his best when he won the NOC against Doz....check those pics for back density and definition.

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Re: Dorian Pic from 92
« Reply #224 on: May 02, 2006, 07:29:47 PM »
gunter's phsyique flows better than jay's and RCs. it's not classical x frame, but all the pieces fit well, plus he is a big mo fo.

whilst standing relaxed and in compulsory poses Gunter's physique is harder to pic for balance, symmetry and proportion issues.

Jay's and Rons are easy to find....and so forth.