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Donny · « **Reply #125 on:** December 26, 2024, 08:59:37 AM »

The Chain punch in Wing Tzun but Dai Sifu Emin Boztepe explained it better in videos i posted.

Donny · « **Reply #126 on:** December 26, 2024, 09:04:37 AM »

The reason i posted the above video is, the best Wing Tsun fighters are not in Hong Kong.

Donny · « **Reply #127 on:** January 11, 2025, 05:23:03 AM »

Footwork is important.. i always liked Bruce Lee´s Footwork in Jeet Kune do

Donny · « **Reply #128 on:** January 12, 2025, 02:34:50 AM »

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Donny · « **Reply #130 on:** January 12, 2025, 08:17:00 AM »

Notomorrow · « **Reply #131 on:** January 13, 2025, 04:32:31 PM »

I trained at William Cheung's Wing Chun studio in La for a few years. It was on Pico and Lincoln in Santa Monica then moved around LA. I trained under Sifu Eric Oram and Sifu Joe Sayah. Joe was a cool dude from Australia who admitted that Wing Chun was not effective in a real fight but had great things you could incorporate into a more complete fighting style. Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun under Yip Man but saw those limitations, which is where he started conceiving of Jeet Kune Do.

Joe tried to fight in kickboxing using Wing Chun(see the roll punch and extended hands) and it didn't go too well as you can see. He quickly starts abandoning Wing Chun but it was too late

Donny · « **Reply #132 on:** January 13, 2025, 11:11:28 PM »

Quote from: Notomorrow on January 13, 2025, 04:32:31 PM

I trained at William Cheung's Wing Chun studio in La for a few years. It was on Pico and Lincoln in Santa Monica then moved around LA. I trained under Sifu Eric Oram and Sifu Joe Sayah. Joe was a cool dude from Australia who admitted that Wing Chun was not effective in a real fight but had great things you could incorporate into a more complete fighting style. Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun under Yip Man but saw those limitations, which is where he started conceiving of Jeet Kune Do.

Joe tried to fight in kickboxing using Wing Chun(see the roll punch and extended hands) and it didn't go too well as you can see. He quickly starts abandoning Wing Chun but it was too late

Nice..yes some people laugh at Bruce Lee but he was really ahead of his time.

IroNat · « **Reply #133 on:** January 14, 2025, 05:24:41 AM »

Interesting stuff.

Wing Chun is not a method for fighting in a ring or cage.

It's a self-defense method which is very different from ring or cage fighting.

It's useful to get yourself quickly out of a street encounter and allow you to get away.

Sayeh started out good and what he did would be very effective in a brief street encounter.

Donny · « **Reply #134 on:** January 14, 2025, 05:47:37 AM »

Wing Tzun is for fighting it depends on the person, the same could be said about Karate-do. It´s not the system but the man.
However no system is perfect hence why things change. In the Wing Chun system there is many interpretations because everyone teaching adds their own twist to it.

Biu Tze

Donny · « **Reply #135 on:** January 15, 2025, 03:57:10 AM »

Donny · « **Reply #136 on:** January 18, 2025, 07:39:18 AM »

this is fucking Gold ...shows the Ving Tsun he learned from Wong Shun Leung

IroNat · « **Reply #137 on:** January 19, 2025, 03:40:40 PM »

Quote from: Donny on January 14, 2025, 05:47:37 AM

Wing Tzun is for fighting it depends on the person, the same could be said about Karate-do. It´s not the system but the man.
However no system is perfect hence why things change. In the Wing Chun system there is many interpretations because everyone teaching adds their own twist to it.

It's not good for sport fighting like MMA or the like.

For self-defense it is useful.

Bruce Lee gave it up as it did not work as well as boxing with footwork from fencing.

Lee also used kicks from Tae Kwon Do.

Donny · « **Reply #138 on:** January 19, 2025, 11:40:31 PM »

Quote from: IroNat on January 19, 2025, 03:40:40 PM

It's not good for sport fighting like MMA or the like.

For self-defense it is useful.

Bruce Lee gave it up as it did not work as well as boxing with footwork from fencing.

Lee also used kicks from Tae Kwon Do.

According to Dan Inosanto in a video he said Bruce Lee changed techniques even monthly in his system.
As did Dan later on bringing more Kali into his interpretation of Jeet kune do.
I believe originally Bruce Lee used more Thai boxing & Savate in his system as far as kicking goes, certainly in his Original programme in Gung Fu Thai kickboxing was very evident.