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Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« on: October 27, 2023, 03:59:45 PM »
You can't make this shit up. What's the point of all this lying?!

Don't they realize they undermine their credibility even more with this fake BS?! WOW! Meanwhile, biden IS seriosuly ill with dementia! Upside down clown world. But, the Western MSM is dead to me. Won't ever trust them until they disappear.

https://www.rt.com/russia/585989-putin-had-cardiac-arrest/

'Putin has died of a heart attack': Inside the Western media's 'intelligence sources' and their fake news about Russia
Where does the Anglo-American propaganda machine get its nonsense stories about the president’s health?

Western media is again spreading rumors about a sudden deterioration in the health of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and even his possible death. The source of these rumors is an anonymous Telegram channel allegedly linked to Valery Solovey, a notorious conspiracy theorist.

The Kremlin regularly dismisses such statements as false and the president appears to be in good shape. Moreover, no one can find any proof that Putin's health is in danger. Meanwhile, as the scandalous “insider information” continues to spread, its sources fail to become any more credible.

So how did a Russian hoaxer and conspiracy theorist become a source of “sensational world news?”

Journalistic standards

On Friday, The Daily Mail published an article with the scandalous title: “Vladimir Putin is NOT dead: Kremlin issues extraordinary denial to 'lies' that Russian tyrant, 71, 'died at his luxury Valdai forest palace' – amid claims a 'coup' was underway in Moscow.”

The Daily Mail referred to an anonymous Telegram channel that had spread information about the death of the Russian president the day before, and said that Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov,“told state media RIA Novosti that the report was an 'absurd information canard [yarn]'.”

In fact, Peskov did not comment on these rumors and there is no such story on the RIA Novosti website. Just like the “news” of Vladimir Putin's death, Peskov's “comment” was distributed through anonymous Telegram channels. However, for the Western media, this piece of fake news provided a reason to publish unconfirmed nonsense.

All of the above is hardly surprising, since that same week, British media spread rumors that Vladimir Putin's health had significantly deteriorated. The Mirror was the first publication to claim last weekend that the Russian president had suffered cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated. This story also appeared in other publications such as the Daily Express, Sky News Australia, and others.

Similar stories appeared in the Western press one after another. This eventually forced the Russian president’s press secretary to indeed comment. On Tuesday, Peskov said that the rumors about Putin's health problems were groundless.

“He is fine, this is absolutely another false yarn,” he said.

The official refutation, however, has not altered the Western media’s editorial policy. Making the same mistake, journalists continue to quote a channel which has repeatedly demonstrated that its “insider information” is completely unfounded.

Rumors from “General SVR”
The source regularly cited by Western media is the General SVR Telegram account (SVR is Russian acronym for Foreign Intelligence Service — RT). It was created in the fall of 2020 and immediately started posting about Putin's alleged poor health.

On Thursday evening, it posted the following message: “Russian President Vladimir Putin died tonight at his Valdai residence. At 20:42 Moscow time, doctors stopped resuscitation attempts and pronounced him dead. Now doctors are locked in the room with Putin's corpse, they are being held by the President’s security service <...>  Security measures [to protect] the President's body double have been strengthened. Active negotiations are underway. Any attempt to pass off the double as the President after Putin's death will [lead to] a coup.”

On Monday, General SVR wrote that on the evening of October 22, Putin's security service officers who were on duty at his residence heard a noise and the sound of a fall coming from his bedroom. When they arrived, they allegedly saw Putin lying on the floor near the bed, and next to him there was an overturned table with food and drinks.

“Doctors performed resuscitation, having preliminarily diagnosed cardiac arrest. Help was provided on time, the [doctors] restarted his heart and Putin regained consciousness. <...> This case of cardiac arrest seriously alarmed the president's inner circle, despite the fact that the attending doctors have warned that Putin is doing very badly and is unlikely to survive until the end of the fall,” the post says.

General SVR regularly claims that the Kremlin has hired body doubles to represent him in public. The channel’s administrator claims that he has “connections” in law enforcement agencies.

Referring to Monday's post, The Mirror indicated that the channel was allegedly created by a former Kremlin lieutenant general, known under the pseudonym Viktor Mikhailovich. At the same time, the newspaper admits that it has never provided any evidence that would confirm the existence of its sources, and the channel’s latest posts are unverified.

This Telegram channel is also popular among some Russians, especially among the supporters of the opposition. The mysterious “General SVR” was even invited as a guest by popular YouTube channels like Feygin Live and the Echo of Moscow. In the videos, the voice of the man who introduced himself as Viktor Mikhailovich was altered. The publicity, however, played a cruel joke on the channel’s creator – a WebMoney wallet revealed the real identity of the person who communicated with the interviewers.

He turned out to be Viktor Ermolaev – a member of the register of lawyers of Ukraine, who is originally from Kharkov. Russian RT sources in law enforcement agencies have also confirmed this information.

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2023, 04:02:31 PM »
Adam Schiff approved.



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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2023, 04:15:54 PM »
You can't make this shit up. What's the point of all this lying?!

Don't they realize they undermine their credibility even more with this fake BS?! WOW! Meanwhile, biden IS seriosuly ill with dementia! Upside down clown world. But, the Western MSM is dead to me. Won't ever trust them until they disappear.

https://www.rt.com/russia/585989-putin-had-cardiac-arrest/

'Putin has died of a heart attack': Inside the Western media's 'intelligence sources' and their fake news about Russia
Where does the Anglo-American propaganda machine get its nonsense stories about the president’s health?

Western media is again spreading rumors about a sudden deterioration in the health of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and even his possible death. The source of these rumors is an anonymous Telegram channel allegedly linked to Valery Solovey, a notorious conspiracy theorist.

The Kremlin regularly dismisses such statements as false and the president appears to be in good shape. Moreover, no one can find any proof that Putin's health is in danger. Meanwhile, as the scandalous “insider information” continues to spread, its sources fail to become any more credible.

So how did a Russian hoaxer and conspiracy theorist become a source of “sensational world news?”

Journalistic standards

On Friday, The Daily Mail published an article with the scandalous title: “Vladimir Putin is NOT dead: Kremlin issues extraordinary denial to 'lies' that Russian tyrant, 71, 'died at his luxury Valdai forest palace' – amid claims a 'coup' was underway in Moscow.”

The Daily Mail referred to an anonymous Telegram channel that had spread information about the death of the Russian president the day before, and said that Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov,“told state media RIA Novosti that the report was an 'absurd information canard [yarn]'.”

In fact, Peskov did not comment on these rumors and there is no such story on the RIA Novosti website. Just like the “news” of Vladimir Putin's death, Peskov's “comment” was distributed through anonymous Telegram channels. However, for the Western media, this piece of fake news provided a reason to publish unconfirmed nonsense.

All of the above is hardly surprising, since that same week, British media spread rumors that Vladimir Putin's health had significantly deteriorated. The Mirror was the first publication to claim last weekend that the Russian president had suffered cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated. This story also appeared in other publications such as the Daily Express, Sky News Australia, and others.

Similar stories appeared in the Western press one after another. This eventually forced the Russian president’s press secretary to indeed comment. On Tuesday, Peskov said that the rumors about Putin's health problems were groundless.

“He is fine, this is absolutely another false yarn,” he said.

The official refutation, however, has not altered the Western media’s editorial policy. Making the same mistake, journalists continue to quote a channel which has repeatedly demonstrated that its “insider information” is completely unfounded.

Rumors from “General SVR”
The source regularly cited by Western media is the General SVR Telegram account (SVR is Russian acronym for Foreign Intelligence Service — RT). It was created in the fall of 2020 and immediately started posting about Putin's alleged poor health.

On Thursday evening, it posted the following message: “Russian President Vladimir Putin died tonight at his Valdai residence. At 20:42 Moscow time, doctors stopped resuscitation attempts and pronounced him dead. Now doctors are locked in the room with Putin's corpse, they are being held by the President’s security service <...>  Security measures [to protect] the President's body double have been strengthened. Active negotiations are underway. Any attempt to pass off the double as the President after Putin's death will [lead to] a coup.”

On Monday, General SVR wrote that on the evening of October 22, Putin's security service officers who were on duty at his residence heard a noise and the sound of a fall coming from his bedroom. When they arrived, they allegedly saw Putin lying on the floor near the bed, and next to him there was an overturned table with food and drinks.

“Doctors performed resuscitation, having preliminarily diagnosed cardiac arrest. Help was provided on time, the [doctors] restarted his heart and Putin regained consciousness. <...> This case of cardiac arrest seriously alarmed the president's inner circle, despite the fact that the attending doctors have warned that Putin is doing very badly and is unlikely to survive until the end of the fall,” the post says.

General SVR regularly claims that the Kremlin has hired body doubles to represent him in public. The channel’s administrator claims that he has “connections” in law enforcement agencies.

Referring to Monday's post, The Mirror indicated that the channel was allegedly created by a former Kremlin lieutenant general, known under the pseudonym Viktor Mikhailovich. At the same time, the newspaper admits that it has never provided any evidence that would confirm the existence of its sources, and the channel’s latest posts are unverified.

This Telegram channel is also popular among some Russians, especially among the supporters of the opposition. The mysterious “General SVR” was even invited as a guest by popular YouTube channels like Feygin Live and the Echo of Moscow. In the videos, the voice of the man who introduced himself as Viktor Mikhailovich was altered. The publicity, however, played a cruel joke on the channel’s creator – a WebMoney wallet revealed the real identity of the person who communicated with the interviewers.

He turned out to be Viktor Ermolaev – a member of the register of lawyers of Ukraine, who is originally from Kharkov. Russian RT sources in law enforcement agencies have also confirmed this information.

The same rag has for years claimed that Putin is dying from Covid/cancer/flu/heart attack/pneumonia/diabeetus etc or that he is already dead and the person appearing on TV is a body double and similar ridiculous conspiracy theories.

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2023, 04:21:14 PM »
Newsweek ran an article on Sunday or Monday that said that the cardiac arrest rumor was false

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2023, 04:28:37 PM »
Newsweek ran an article on Sunday or Monday that said that the cardiac arrest rumor was false
This was on MSN 4 days ago:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/vladimir-putin-suffers-cardiac-arrest-sparking-massive-alarm-in-kremlin-inner-circle/ar-AA1iH7Zi

Vladimir Putin 'suffers cardiac arrest' sparking massive 'alarm' in Kremlin inner circle
Story by Tim McNulty  •
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Vladimir Putin is alleged to have suffered a "cardiac arrest" in his private Moscow apartment on Sunday evening.

A Telegram Channel believed to be run by a former Kremlin insider reported that incident saying the Russian leader was found by guards on the floor of the bedroom "lying on the floor, rolling his eyes."

Doctors were reportedly called immediately and they later diagnosed the 71-year-old as having suffered a "cardiac arrest."

Putin was then moved to a special medical facility built in the apartment where he underwent intensive care, the source claims.

The unverified report comes following persistent speculation surrounding Putin's health amid rumours of a long-hidden medical condition.

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2023, 04:30:33 PM »
Also on MSN:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/vladimir-putins-loved-ones-being-prepared-for-the-worst-amid-health-rumours/ar-AA1iSVfW

Vladimir Putin's loved ones 'being prepared for the worst' amid health rumours

Warmonger Vladimir Putin's family are being told to "prepare for the worst" as rumours about his health continue to swirl, it has been reported.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is said to have fallen ill on Sunday after suffering from a heart attack, according to the General SVR Telegram channel, which claims to have Kremlin insiders and regularly alleges Putin is unwell. In its latest update yesterday, the Channel said: "Over the past 24 hours, Vladimir Putin’s condition has not changed and remains stable and serious. The attending doctors say that a miracle will not happen and are preparing loved ones for the worst outcome." It added this morning that his condition had worsened.

Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov was quick to shoot down the rumours earlier this week. Speaking on behalf of Putin – who has not given a public address of any kind for several weeks, Peskov said "everything is fine" and that it was another fake story. He continued: "This belongs to the category of absurd information hoaxes that a whole series of media discuss with enviable tenacity – this evokes nothing but a smile."
But today the SVR Channel said: "Russian President Vladimir Putin's health condition has deteriorated somewhat over the past 24 hours. The attending doctors are doing everything possible to stabilize the head of the state’s condition, but they leave no doubt about the outcome." However, Putin was seen yesterday watching a mock missile launch.

The news comes as South Korea, the US and Japan strongly condemned what they call North Korea’s supply of munitions and military equipment to Russia, saying Thursday that such weapons shipments sharply increase the human toll of Russia’s war in Ukraine. A joint statement by the top diplomats of South Korea, the U.S. and Japan came days after Russia’s foreign minister scoffed at a recent U.S. claim that his country received munitions from North Korea, saying that Washington has failed to prove the allegation.

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2023, 05:38:20 PM »
the 'MSM'...  ::)

russia... ukraine.. china... israel.. india.. england.. US... etc etc - same guys

all crowns... rulers and religions - every position of influence on this earth – r controlled by the same guys.

rome – london – washington dc – same guys

finance, academia, the medical establishment – the whole of 'science' – same guys

worldwide 'intelligence' - the leadership of every single 'terror' outfit of note – same guys

these guys talk to u thru the media... and have programmed the masses to deny God, hate their fellow man and assure their spot in hell

humanity has been transformed into a collection of wind up toys.. let loose to bounce off of one another until the shit show claims as many souls as is possible.

what a joke

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2023, 05:44:46 PM »
Honest journalism is at a premium these days, that’s for sure.

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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2023, 06:18:13 PM »
I love "Russia is doomed, gonna explode and fall apart."

"You realize their entire economy is dependent on oil exports"

"so"

"oil prices go up in times of war, their oil profits have never been higher"




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Re: Fake Western MSM claims Putin is ill or dead - lol!
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2023, 07:17:44 PM »
Ike had a heart attack in office and was fine.