funk51 complete and total TDS meltdown thread

[funk51]

he hasnt got the algorithms telling him how to answer you yet

It's just a matter of time till he'll get the info from some podcaster. The claim that "podcasters know everything" is a myth. The perception of podcasters as all-knowing comes from the intimate, authentic connection they forge with their audience, not necessarily from a comprehensive base of expertise. In reality, podcasting is a largely unregulated medium, and many hosts are not trained journalists or subject-matter experts. }

[funk51]

It's just a matter of time till he'll get the info from some podcaster. The claim that "podcasters know everything" is a myth. The perception of podcasters as all-knowing comes from the intimate, authentic connection they forge with their audience, not necessarily from a comprehensive base of expertise. In reality, podcasting is a largely unregulated medium, and many hosts are not trained journalists or subject-matter experts. }

  REmember kiddies you too can become a podcaster and have your voice heard, all you need is the podcaster kit and who knows maybe you can become the next Joe Rogaine.

[Grape Ape]

It's just a matter of time till he'll get the info from some podcaster. The claim that "podcasters know everything" is a myth. The perception of podcasters as all-knowing comes from the intimate, authentic connection they forge with their audience, not necessarily from a comprehensive base of expertise. In reality, podcasting is a largely unregulated medium, and many hosts are not trained journalists or subject-matter experts. }

Nobody here has said that.  Nobody ever.  You're literally just making up shit. Podcasters facilitate conversations with folks, who may or may not be correct, and it's up to you to decide what you think. They foster the listener to use independent thought, something you and BBC have never brought here.  But I've also pointed you to independent journalists, which you've obviously ignored.

But your post proves that you really don't listen to anything anyone says to you.  You continue to mischaracterize what's said on a daily basis. Maybe chaos' assessment is right, you really are turning into a dick.

[funk51]

Nobody here has said that.  Nobody ever.  You're literally just making up shit. Podcasters facilitate conversations with folks, who may or may not be correct, and it's up to you to decide what you think. They foster the listener to use independent thought, something you and BBC have never brought here.  But I've also pointed you to independent journalists, which you've obviously ignored.

But your post proves that you really don't listen to anything anyone says to you.  You continue to mischaracterize what's said on a daily basis. Maybe chaos' assessment is right, you really are turning into a dick.

     

                                            NOW 'm a dick, first it was stupid, a moron, ADD sufferer, senile. I am the complete opposite of a DICK, a nicer person then me you won't find. So I dislike Trump big deal, I have my reasons, and if you paid any attention you would have known most of them. here's a few as a refresher course. 1. FACT= I used to pay over 3 K a year for health insurance, now I get better insurance and pay ZERO, but I should hate Obama. 2. Fact=  I've received over 15 robo calls from the Trump administration asking for handouts to MAGA, several starting out with. This is Donald J Trump your favorite president, I'm asking all good Americans blah blah blah----Give me money. SEveral were from Lara Trump and Trump's favorite son Eric, My father is trying to make America great again can't you help us by sending money.  3. FACT= the democrats never robo-called [read scam] called my house a ONCE. I could go on and on. like the time I went to trump casino in Atlantic city..blah blah blam, long story short, you're white so you're all right.

[Grape Ape]

     

                                            NOW 'm a dick, first it was stupid, a moron, ADD sufferer, senile. I am the complete opposite of a DICK, a nicer person then me you won't find. So I dislike Trump big deal, I have my reasons, and if you paid any attention you would have known most of them. here's a few as a refresher course. 1. FACT= I used to pay over 3 K a year for health insurance, now I get better insurance and pay ZERO, but I should hate Obama. 2. Fact=  I've received over 15 robo calls from the Trump administration asking for handouts to MAGA, several starting out with. This is Donald J Trump your favorite president, I'm asking all good Americans blah blah blah----Give me money. SEveral were from Lara Trump and Trump's favorite son Eric, My father is trying to make America great again can't you help us by sending money.  3. FACT= the democrats never robo-called [read scam] called my house a ONCE. I could go on and on. like the time I went to trump casino in Atlantic city..blah blah blam, long story short, you're white so you're all right.

So, once again, I never said any of the stuff above - never called you dumb, old, senile, etc.....I have just said you're misinformed.

But when you constantly come at me with stuff I literally never said, or completely mischaracterize it , I have to wonder why.

[funk51]

So, once again, I never said any of the stuff above - never called you dumb, old, senile, etc.....I have just said you're misinformed.

But when you constantly come at me with stuff I literally never said, or completely mischaracterize it , I have to wonder why.

  Yet you're perfectly okay with Trump lying on a daily basis even when he doesn't really need to. One thing I give you though, you got me tuning in to joe rogan, he's a pretty funny guy and I think he actually seeks the truth, although he comes off a bit demented from time to time , but aren't we all a little. I wish I knew all the answers, but unfortunately I don't and I'm not to stupid {yet} to realize this. Have a good day. Sidenote this is getbig so don't take anything too serious.

[Grape Ape]

  Yet you're perfectly okay with Trump lying on a daily basis even when he doesn't really need to. One thing I give you though, you got me tuning in to joe rogan, he's a pretty funny guy and I think he actually seeks the truth, although he comes off a bit demented from time to time , but aren't we all a little. I wish I knew all the answers, but unfortunately I don't and I'm not to stupid {yet} to realize this. Have a good day. Sidenote this is getbig so don't take anything too serious.

Glad you're listening.  Rogan literally has 15 hrs + of unscripted conversations a week, so I guess anyone who does that can make some demented type comments.  I honestly only maybe listen to about 30 min to an hour a week, unless it's a guest I find interesting.  The last one I listened to completion was this one, but it took me two weeks:

Highly recommend that one and these:  Eye opening.

https://jrelibrary.com/2335-dr-mary-talley-bowden/

Also, listen to Mike Benz......you'll get some different perspectives.

As for the whole trump thing, I don't know if he lies every day because I don't feel any desire to follow him obsessively - I can't change any of that, so why bother?  But this sums up my thoughts on him:

But I am still of the belief that no matter you think of Trump, TDS is real, and it did cause the left to abandon their morals at best, and commit treason at worst.  The lawfare, weaponization of the judicial system, phony impeachments, the silencing of individuals, and attempting to control the media are all real things the last admin did, and there needs to be accountability and punishment so it doesn't happen again.

So, if it takes a guy who makes $ off dipshits who buy his meme coin to accomplish the above, I'll take the bad with the good.

[Necrosis]

Glad you're listening.  Rogan literally has 15 hrs + of unscripted conversations a week, so I guess anyone who does that can make some demented type comments.  I honestly only maybe listen to about 30 min to an hour a week, unless it's a guest I find interesting.  The last one I listened to completion was this one, but it took me two weeks:

Highly recommend that one and these:  Eye opening.

https://jrelibrary.com/2335-dr-mary-talley-bowden/

Also, listen to Mike Benz......you'll get some different perspectives.

As for the whole trump thing, I don't know if he lies every day because I don't feel any desire to follow him obsessively - I can't change any of that, so why bother?  But this sums up my thoughts on him:

Bro this guy is spewing so absolute nonsense on the GLP1ra's. They dont cause more muscle loss than other weight loss modalities like gastric sleeves etc. its not sarcopenic. No one I know rapidly titrates- maybe its the states though with profit motive. In canada i would never rapidly titrate, the gastric motility issues alone are problematic wrt that.

[Grape Ape]

Bro this guy is spewing so absolute nonsense on the GLP1ra's. They dont cause more muscle loss than other weight loss modalities like gastric sleeves etc. its not sarcopenic. No one I know rapidly titrates- maybe its the states though with profit motive. In canada i would never rapidly titrate, the gastric motility issues alone are problematic wrt that.

Hmmm.

What I recall him saying was that compounding pharmacies only get authorized to make this when there's a shortage, but the main pharmacies (Eli/Novartis? can't recall) claim there is no shortage but only offer one dosage, whereas he believes dosage should start with the bare minimum, and the be adjusted/tailored to the individual.

He also said combining GLPs with muscle sparing compounds like IGF1 (again ?) showed no muscle loss.  Also spoke about pharma trying to lobby against peptides on one hand, while trying to get patents on them on the other.

You disagree with all this?

[chaos]

Nobody here has said that.  Nobody ever.  You're literally just making up shit. Podcasters facilitate conversations with folks, who may or may not be correct, and it's up to you to decide what you think. They foster the listener to use independent thought, something you and BBC have never brought here.  But I've also pointed you to independent journalists, which you've obviously ignored.

But your post proves that you really don't listen to anything anyone says to you.  You continue to mischaracterize what's said on a daily basis. Maybe chaos' assessment is right, you really are turning into a dick.

This is where you lose people on the left, they only repeat what they're told, no individual thought process happening.

[Primemuscle]

This is where you lose people on the left, they only repeat what they're told, no individual thought process happening.

And of course, people on the right never do this – and yet they often repeat whatever FOX NEWS and Trump says word for word.  Who knows, it could be that gave it some individual thought and decided they could not say it better.

[Dos Equis]

And of course, people on the right never do this – and yet they often repeat whatever FOX NEWS and Trump says word for word.  Who knows, it could be that gave it some individual thought and decided they could not say it better.

Yes some people on the right do this, but there isn't really much of a comparison.  If you look at the media, they parrot the same thing, repeatedly.  In Congress, Democrats usually vote as a unified block.  Online you can see leftists engaged in groupthink.  Even leftists on this board come and repeat leftist talking points.  Not a whole lot of independent thinking on the left.

[Grape Ape]

Yes some people on the right do this, but there isn't really much of a comparison.  If you look at the media, they parrot the same thing, repeatedly.  In Congress, Democrats usually vote as a unified block.  Online you can see leftists engaged in groupthink.  Even leftists on this board come and repeat leftist talking points.  Not a whole lot of independent thinking on the left.

Most people I know who voted from Trump use independent news sources and are more centrist.

Of course there will be the full on Maga/Fox crew, but the numbers on the left who behave this way far outnumber them.  All you have to do is see the behavior of the mainstream media, the protests, hollywood, musicians, etc.

[Dos Equis]

Most people I know who voted from Trump use independent news sources and are more centrist.

Of course there will be the full on Maga/Fox crew, but the numbers on the left who behave this way far outnumber them.  All you have to do is see the behavior of the mainstream media, the protests, hollywood, musicians, etc.

True.  It's alarming.  Just look at what they are doing to Charlie Kirk.  My leftist friends are uniformly calling him a hateful, racist, homophobic, etc. person.  Things that are easily debunked if you actually just listen to what he said.   

[chaos]

True.  It's alarming.  Just look at what they are doing to Charlie Kirk.  My leftist friends are uniformly calling him a hateful, racist, homophobic, etc. person.  Things that are easily debunked if you actually just listen to what he said.   

You gotta get rid of them, you don't need that negativity in your life.

[Grape Ape]

True.  It's alarming.  Just look at what they are doing to Charlie Kirk.  My leftist friends are uniformly calling him a hateful, racist, homophobic, etc. person.  Things that are easily debunked if you actually just listen to what he said.   

This is why my hatred for the mainstream media runs so deep.

It's still surreal that it actually happened.  He may have been President one day.

He was killed due to misinformation, and the creation of division from a dishonest media.

It's literally insane to me that Google and Youtube admitted to fascism in front of Congress, and the mainstream ignores this.  It should be a bigger scandal than Watergate.

But this is where we are.

[Necrosis]

Hmmm.

What I recall him saying was that compounding pharmacies only get authorized to make this when there's a shortage, but the main pharmacies (Eli/Novartis? can't recall) claim there is no shortage but only offer one dosage, whereas he believes dosage should start with the bare minimum, and the be adjusted/tailored to the individual.

He also said combining GLPs with muscle sparing compounds like IGF1 (again ?) showed no muscle loss.  Also spoke about pharma trying to lobby against peptides on one hand, while trying to get patents on them on the other.

You disagree with all this?

First part is true, second claim is not at least up here. There are multiple dosage pens and the folks I have on it we always start with .25mgs (ozempic if most often covered, mounjaro only for the beetus) and sometimes I even suggest using click counting to start lower if there is some gastroparesis already etc.

The data on glp's and sarcopenia for the most part and in large (although the recent one on heart shrinkage was an outlier) indicate that the muscle loss is on par with other weight loss interventions- sleeve surgery etc- the speed of weight loss will determine the amount of sarcopenia. This can largely be mitigated with resistance training though. There doesn't appear to be any muscle wasting aspect of the drug. If you look at sema in comp to tirz, where tirz has GIP action, it upregulates hormone sensitive lipase and you see a skew towards more fat loss than muscle which makes sense if there isn't a sarcopenic aspect. Reta prob is muscle sparing as the recent study showed exogenous ketone addition spared muscle, and the glucagon agonism of that drug increase hepatic ketone production which should spare muscle.

I dont know anything about the lobbying. I do know a lot of other peptides are awesome for similar issues- weight loss, insulin sens etc like mots-c- it even inhibits myostatin downstream.

Things are probably different in the states but I don't see up here.

[chaos]

I dont know anything about the lobbying. I do know a lot of other peptides are awesome for similar issues- weight loss, insulin sens etc like mots-c- it even inhibits myostatin downstream.

Things are probably different in the states but I don't see up here.

The US pharmacy drug market is disgusting. Only driven by money. Our politicians are complicate, sponsored by drug dealers to push their products.

[Grape Ape]

First part is true, second claim is not at least up here. There are multiple dosage pens and the folks I have on it we always start with .25mgs (ozempic if most often covered, mounjaro only for the beetus) and sometimes I even suggest using click counting to start lower if there is some gastroparesis already etc.

The data on glp's and sarcopenia for the most part and in large (although the recent one on heart shrinkage was an outlier) indicate that the muscle loss is on par with other weight loss interventions- sleeve surgery etc- the speed of weight loss will determine the amount of sarcopenia. This can largely be mitigated with resistance training though. There doesn't appear to be any muscle wasting aspect of the drug. If you look at sema in comp to tirz, where tirz has GIP action, it upregulates hormone sensitive lipase and you see a skew towards more fat loss than muscle which makes sense if there isn't a sarcopenic aspect. Reta prob is muscle sparing as the recent study showed exogenous ketone addition spared muscle, and the glucagon agonism of that drug increase hepatic ketone production which should spare muscle.

I dont know anything about the lobbying. I do know a lot of other peptides are awesome for similar issues- weight loss, insulin sens etc like mots-c- it even inhibits myostatin downstream.

Things are probably different in the states but I don't see up here.

Thanks for this.

Informative, and I actually understand it lol.

Now I get both sides of the muscle loss argument.

[funk51]

   

                             

        So I went out of my house last night to war ravaged Bethlehem to that decadent Indian casino and listened to the Alan Parsons band. Somewhere between the songs Sirius which transitions into eye in the sky, I had an Epiphany, Why do I waste my time with this shit. So at this point I leave this thread to the intellectuals on the board Mister Chaos, Grape Ape and that mental GIANT Coach is back to continue on in this thread hopefully they can continue it and give President Trump all the praise and glory which he truly deserves.  Good Bye thread 

[Grape Ape]