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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15175 on: November 29, 2006, 02:14:57 PM »
98 vs 99 relaxed comparisons...


again, no evidence of increased dryness!

For Peter's words to mean something we must have corroberating proof!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15176 on: November 29, 2006, 02:20:07 PM »
Hulkster, in all honesty, you cant tell shit from those pictures.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15177 on: November 29, 2006, 02:21:47 PM »
99 vs. 98 front lat spreads:




something tells me that by the 4 billionth comparison it is obvious that maybe Peter was a little too quick to dismiss 99 Ronnie as being less dry.

I too have seen the videos, and it shows exactly what all these comparisons do:

Ronnie was just as dry in 99 if not drier, front AND back.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15178 on: November 29, 2006, 02:24:27 PM »
still more:

the mountain is getting higher:




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15179 on: November 29, 2006, 02:26:40 PM »
Oh y god I can't believe how long this thread is.  I just wanted to get included again.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15180 on: November 29, 2006, 02:31:56 PM »
even more 98 vs. 99

and Pubic, you use the quality of this 98 pic as an excuse any more:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15181 on: November 29, 2006, 02:32:55 PM »
still waiting for even one SHREAD of evidence to show that Ronnie was drier in 98.....
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15182 on: November 29, 2006, 02:34:44 PM »
98 vs. 99:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15183 on: November 29, 2006, 02:36:10 PM »
still more 98 vs 99:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15184 on: November 29, 2006, 02:37:09 PM »
even ronnie's back is identical in terms of hardness and detail.

tell me, Where was Peter seated?  Row  97645?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15185 on: November 29, 2006, 02:38:05 PM »
but IceCold, you say that in your opinion Ronnie was harder in 98 than in 99.

but I have posted numous sets of comparison pics that show no real difference.

everyone can see that.


your interpretion of the comparisons is incorrect:




i dont think i personally said anything about ronnie's 98 vs. 99 condition.

he seemed dryer in 98.  also, his color was darker so maybe that had something to do with it.  

but i dont remember saying anything specifically about 98 vs. 99

well, other than yates' best would be both.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15186 on: November 29, 2006, 02:38:22 PM »
98 vs. 99:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15187 on: November 29, 2006, 02:39:36 PM »
Actually there is. Peter and Dorian hold a lot more credibility in their words than you do simply for the fact that they were there. Why would they lie about it? Plus, their thoughts were confirmed when I watched both of the videos. Ronnie was clearly more conditioned, esp. from the back, in 98.

Great post !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15188 on: November 29, 2006, 04:07:29 PM »
Damn fellows, dude takes a break and goes on vacation for a week or so and comes back to the same shiat all over again.  ND, do you really think you are going to change Hulkster's mind?  That is about as plausible as Hitler embracing the Jews.  Hulkster, does it really matter whether Ronnie was drier in 1998 or 1999?  He won both shows, and I feel would have wiped the floor with Yates.  However, that is my opinion.  You have your opinion.  ND has his as does Pobrecito and IceCold.  Why keep this thread going?  It is getting tedious; it lost its charm around two hundred pages ago.  Damn, I bet even Sucky is getting tired of posting his long, point by point retorts.  Now I appreciate all the debating; it is damn interesting.  However, it is obvious that this thread has about as much of a chance to find closure as the Iraqi war.  It is not going to happen fellows.  Agree that you disagree and stop this pissing contest; it is actually getting quite boring.  Why can't we move onto something a little more compelling like how long it takes for paint to dry.  ::) ::)  Hell, can Ronnie make a miraculous comeback in 2007 ala 2003.  It is not unprecedented for him to look like shiat in one year and come in dominating the next. 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15189 on: November 29, 2006, 04:11:47 PM »
How can that be a great post when I have just posted 4 billion comparison shots showing that there was no difference in hardness between 98 and 99 Ronnie? ::)

if anything, Ronnie 99 was MORE detailed in the quads (obvious), shoulders, bis, tris and pecs.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15190 on: November 29, 2006, 04:17:10 PM »
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Hulkster, does it really matter whether Ronnie was drier in 1998 or 1999?

it is important because the dorian side bases all of its arguments on opinions and heresay.

the insistance of Peter McGough that Ronnie was harder in 98 and the embracing of this claim by the dorian nuthuggers despite the last 20 posts showing there was a neglible difference is but one example.

its the princible of it.

we all know Ronnie looked much better in 99 than in 98 because of the extra fullness and size combined with more detailed quads and equal detail everywhere else.

so, no, as far as the debate goes, it doesn't matter.

But as far as proving that ND and Pubic are going about this whole debate the wrong way (opinions and words over real pics showing contrary points) it does matter a whole lot.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15191 on: November 29, 2006, 04:24:47 PM »
It might make a difference that your comparing screencaps to pics? ???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15192 on: November 29, 2006, 04:27:36 PM »
it is important because the dorian side bases all of its arguments on opinions and heresay.

the insistance of Peter McGough that Ronnie was harder in 98 and the embracing of this claim by the dorian nuthuggers despite the last 20 posts showing there was a neglible difference is but one example.

its the princible of it.

we all know Ronnie looked much better in 99 than in 98 because of the extra fullness and size combined with more detailed quads and equal detail everywhere else.

so, no, as far as the debate goes, it doesn't matter.

But as far as proving that ND and Pubic are going about this whole debate the wrong way (opinions and words over real pics showing contrary points) it does matter a whole lot.



Hulkster you're ice-skating uphill . you've gone beyond absurdity you think you know more than Peter McGough its laughable you've melted-down into actually believing the nonsense you're spouting !

Again I've personally scanned and used more pics on this thread than ANYONE ! I used every available asset to me to prove my point ( and did a great job ) pictures , video , statistics , facts , figures , first hand accounts , professional bodybuilding writers , competitors , quotes , official IFBB criteria ,  I've used more than you I understand more than you and in the process I didn't degenerate to redeucing Ronnie to nothing  and I've always maintained that there is a possibility Ronnie would win , which is way more than you're willing to admit , this debate ended when you said Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , when you said after look at the pictures Flex Wheeler should have won the 1993 Mr Olympia , that Ronnie has more detail in his calves than Dorian , among the host of idiotic statements you've spouted , you in all seriousness are no longer worthy to ' debate ' on the matter you're to far gone.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15193 on: November 29, 2006, 04:31:58 PM »
98 and 99:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15194 on: November 29, 2006, 04:32:08 PM »
Hulkster you're ice-skating uphill . you've gone beyond absurdity you think you know more than Peter McGough its laughable you've melted-down into actually believing the nonsense you're spouting !

Again I've personally scanned and used more pics on this thread than ANYONE ! I used every available asset to me to prove my point ( and did a great job ) pictures , video , statistics , facts , figures , first hand accounts , professional bodybuilding writers , competitors , quotes , official IFBB criteria ,  I've used more than you I understand more than you and in the process I didn't degenerate to redeucing Ronnie to nothing  and I've always maintained that there is a possibility Ronnie would win , which is way more than you're willing to admit , this debate ended when you said Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , when you said after look at the pictures Flex Wheeler should have won the 1993 Mr Olympia , that Ronnie has more detail in his calves than Dorian , among the host of idiotic statements you've spouted , you in all seriousness are no longer worthy to ' debate ' on the matter you're to far gone.

excellent post !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15195 on: November 29, 2006, 04:32:45 PM »
98 and 99:



god damn, look at Ronnie's gut spilling over in 99 :-X

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15196 on: November 29, 2006, 04:34:00 PM »
98 and 99:



Again,... screencap vs. photo. Live > Video > Pics, remember?
Not that I really have an opinion on this, but seriously, compare pics to pics and not to screencaps.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15197 on: November 29, 2006, 04:37:45 PM »
the screencaps from the 99 and 93 olympia are of excellent quality:

a pic of Ronnie doing this pose will look just as impressive and show just as many details:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15198 on: November 29, 2006, 04:40:25 PM »
screencap compared to screencap:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15199 on: November 29, 2006, 04:40:29 PM »
the screencaps from the 99 and 93 olympia are of excellent quality:

a pic of Ronnie doing this pose will look just as impressive and show just as many details:




Exactly, it's going to look better than a photo.
Photo's < Video < Live (I fucked up and put the arrows backwards last time)
Put a 99 Photo up against the 98 photos.