Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

everyone except the judges.  (and that's who matters, not you, buddy).


 

the judges wanted to keep their jobs you know.

uncle ben and uncle joe sign their pay cheques.

what they say - goes.

 

[IceCold]

the judges wanted to keep their jobs you know.

uncle ben and uncle joe sign their pay cheques.

what they say - goes.

 

and why would they want dorian to win - esp. if he's as bad as you say he is.

in 700 pages, you brought that up several times, but have yet provided any sort of reason or evidence and why any kinda polticial factor had something to do with yates winning?

[IceCold]

hulkster,

here's to your theory that dorian only beat guys that were smaller and not as wide.



another white guy with a better back than coleman.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's arms look like they're made of playdough.

It can't be an accident that most Coleman fans are ignorant , it just can't be lol if you believe his arms are soft , rock on sport !! lol enjoy yourself . 

[NarcissisticDeity]

if it is nonsense then why is there 500 shots and videos of dorian looking doughy in major areas?

seriously ND.

if this thread has done anything, it has brought to light the myths of dorian yates.

and exposed his overratedness

Dorian's hardness & dryness are legendary , his overall conditioning at his weight hasn't been matched , the topic is fact your critique is worthless , you're ignorant and hopeless ! believe what you may it doesn't change history kid.

lol overratedness , the internet-fan-boy from the comfort of his personal PC has figured out all by his little self that Dorian was overrated lol one things for sure on this thread you make me laugh. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Another classic. Which is the "good" arm? The arm-to-lat ratio is tiny.

Another classic example of Camp-Delusional tapering with pictures , why does this pic NOT look like the one I scanned? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm notice just a tad bit of difference in the quality of the two pics?

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian's hardness & dryness are legendary , his overall conditioning at his weight hasn't been matched , the topic is fact your critique is worthless , you're ignorant and hopeless ! believe what you may it doesn't change history kid.

go ahead, keep believing whatever helps you sleep at night little boy. I used to blindly accept everything I read in the mags like you, such as Dorian's legendary conditioning. Then I realized the mags aren't always right. I already explained to you how Dorian and Ronnie could have the same conditioning yet look different. You choose to only hear a few things (e.g. Peter McGough's comment) and automatically shut your mind off to anything that contradicts this, probably b/c you lack the mental capacity to explore other ideas.

[NarcissisticDeity]

hulkster,

here's to your theory that dorian only beat guys that were smaller and not as wide.



another white guy with a better back than coleman.

Another guy with a fantastic back and he competed at 260 pounds at 5'8" 1/2 that was bigger and had an amazing taper , yet Hulkster called him blocky lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

go ahead, keep believing whatever helps you sleep at night little boy. I used to blindly accept everything I read in the mags like you, such as Dorian's legendary conditioning. Then I realized the mags aren't always right. I already explained to you how Dorian and Ronnie could have the same conditioning yet look different. You choose to only hear a few things (e.g. Peter McGough's comment) and automatically shut your mind off to anything that contradicts this, probably b/c you lack the mental capacity to explore other ideas.

Again you couldn't be any more wrong I don't rely on quotes I use them as verification of my point and pictures don't tell the whole story not by a long shot thats why I couple it with videos as well , oh and don't forget firsthand accounts add them in too and then after soaking in all the information and processing it I form an opinion and its based on intelligence , objectivity , honesty and the whole of the information , I may not always be right , but I've done my research and for you and Hulkster to claim Dorian's dryness or conditioning is a myth or even worse than Ronnie 1999 is completely laughable , its so laughable its not even worthy of a response any longer you guys believe what ever you want lol because God knows you're devoid of commonsense .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Fux and his insanely wide back !

[Hulkster]

go ahead, keep believing whatever helps you sleep at night little boy. I used to blindly accept everything I read in the mags like you, such as Dorian's legendary conditioning. Then I realized the mags aren't always right. I already explained to you how Dorian and Ronnie could have the same conditioning yet look different. You choose to only hear a few things (e.g. Peter McGough's comment) and automatically shut your mind off to anything that contradicts this, probably b/c you lack the mental capacity to explore other ideas.

great post!

I mean seriously:

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

What would Peter McGough know? its NOT like he was at the contest , he just stood home and formulated his opinion with some scans and compressed video lol

[Hulkster]

Again you couldn't be any more wrong I don't rely on quotes I use them as verification of my point and pictures don't tell the whole story not by a long shot thats why I couple it with videos as well , oh and don't forget firsthand accounts add them in too and then after soaking in all the information and processing it I form an opinion and its based on intelligence , objectivity , honesty and the whole of the information , I may not always be right , but I've done my research and for you and Hulkster to claim Dorian's dryness or conditioning is a myth or even worse than Ronnie 1999 is completely laughable , its so laughable its not even worthy of a response any longer you guys believe what ever you want lol because God knows you're devoid of commonsense .

Why is it "laugable" that Ronnie 99 might have had better conditioning?

because you don't like it?

because it might be true?

because someone said  dorian was the driest of all time back in 1996 well before Ronnie showed up onstage in 99?

because the arms, quads, chest, delts, glutes and hams "don't count" therefore even though Ronnie 99 was clearly drier in these areas it doesn't matter because the abs and lower back eclipse all of these?

face it ND: you are as close minded as they come.

and you are ignoring all the proof shown right in front of you.

sure, you can dismiss it as "bad quality scans of dorian" and "compressed video" and "poor quality pics" and all the other crap, but it won't do any good.

these things affect ALL bodybuilders, not just dorian.

if all these things affected appearences this much, you would never be able to tell if someone was in shape or not from any mag or any video.

in real life, it doesn't work that way.

if you are ripped, it shows in pics and videos.

if you are "doughy", it shows up just as well..

[Hulkster]

What would Peter McGough know? its NOT like he was at the contest , he just stood home and formulated his opinion with some scans and compressed video lol

you can't use a relaxed gut pic of Ronnie in 99 to show he was not as dry as dorian as dorian, because dorian standing relaxed in 93 or 95 looked just as bad.

nice try though.

fortunately, we have brains and can see right through crap like that.

[Hulkster]

ND what you do not understand is that your argument about all these "compressed" video and "bad" scans are not unique to dorian or to Ronnie.

its like that for everyone.

so you can't say "oh dorian looks bad because of the video compression or the scan quality".

it works that way for EVERYONE.

its an equal playing feild.

if someone is soft it shows up just as well in these "bad" scans/videos as it does when they are in shape.

it works both ways.

so your pitful claims that the type of media is the reason dorian looks bad is total bullshit.

its like that for everyone, in shape or not.

dorian looks bad in many shots, well, because he looks bad in many shots.

the media used has nothing to do with it.

[Hulkster]

I suppose the doughy quality of the arms and quads must be because of a "bad scan" too...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Why is it "laugable" that Ronnie 99 might have had better conditioning?

because you don't like it?

because it might be true?

because someone said  dorian was the driest of all time back in 1996 well before Ronnie showed up onstage in 99?

because the arms, quads, chest, delts, glutes and hams "don't count" therefore even though Ronnie 99 was clearly drier in these areas it doesn't matter because the abs and lower back eclipse all of these?

face it ND: you are as close minded as they come.

and you are ignoring all the proof shown right in front of you.

sure, you can dismiss it as "bad quality scans of dorian" and "compressed video" and "poor quality pics" and all the other crap, but it won't do any good.

these things affect ALL bodybuilders, not just dorian.

if all these things affected appearences this much, you would never be able to tell if someone was in shape or not from any mag or any video.

in real life, it doesn't work that way.

if you are ripped, it shows in pics and videos.

if you are "doughy", it shows up just as well..

Its not a matter of I don't like it , its a matter of personally scanned both Flex magazines coverage of both contests in question and seeing an obvious difference in conditioning , couple that with watching both contests in question and seeing an obvious difference in conditioning , and having one of the most respected people in the business say what was plainly evident that Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry in 99 as he was in 1998 and in the year 2000 which Peter states he was holding a lot of water at 264 pounds , he wasn't as sharp as 1999 and in 99 he wasn't as dry or hard as he was in 1998 which would seem to indicate Ronnie is better at a lighter weight

Your opinion is biased because you don't want Dorian to be dryer than Ronnie 1999 because you think he's the messiah and he's not , his conditioning was off in 1999 this was confirmed by someone who was standing with the people in question , your opinion is based on delusion and ignorance , the moment you claimed an eye witness was wrong is the moment you played yourself , this topic has been dead for pages now but you really , really need to try and convince everyone that you're right and its laughable and genius the picture I posted above wasn't to highlight Ronnie's gut it was to show Peter McGough in the backround standing feet from the people in question , but Hulkster has a better view from his PC all the way up in Canada lol

[NeoSeminole]

I may not always be right , but I've done my research and for you and Hulkster to claim Dorian's dryness or conditioning is a myth or even worse than Ronnie 1999 is completely laughable , its so laughable its not even worthy of a response any longer you guys believe what ever you want lol because God knows you're devoid of commonsense.

I never said that Dorian's conditioning was a myth. If I did, please show me where and I will take back my comment. I said that Ronnie's conditioning in 98, 99, and 01 ASC were just as good as Dorian's with maybe a difference of a few ounces of water. The difference is not black and white like the Dorian nuthuggers like to portray. Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem if someone argued that Ronnie had better conditioning although I disagree. I feel in 98 and 01 ASC, Ronnie tied Dorian's all-time best conditioning. Ronnie in 99 was carrying just a tad bit of water. However, I believe it actually helped cause his muscles to look fuller.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND what you do not understand is that your argument about all these "compressed" video and "bad" scans are not unique to dorian or to Ronnie.

its like that for everyone.

so you can't say "oh dorian looks bad because of the video compression or the scan quality".

it works that way for EVERYONE.

its an equal playing feild.

if someone is soft it shows up just as well in these "bad" scans/videos as it does when they are in shape.

it works both ways.

so your pitful claims that the type of media is the reason dorian looks bad is total bullshit.

its like that for everyone, in shape or not.

dorian looks bad in many shots, well, because he looks bad in many shots.

the media used has nothing to do with it.

its YOUR opinion Dorian looks bad in many shots its also YOUR opinion that Shawn Ray beats Dorian Yates in the back double biceps shot lol you know very little

And you post some shots of Dorian and claim how horrible he looks and it's a crappy scan , when you scan an image if its small in the magazine and resize to a decent size the quality suffers its NOT indicitive of how he actually looked at the contest even though you claim the contrary and like the video once its compressed it loses some quality I know this because I have the 93/94 taped off ESPN and its much clearer and the quality is much better , for you to base an opinion on some crappy scans and compressed video is premature and inaccurate but you're to stupid to know this , and it fits your agenda which is to try and convince everyone that Dorian wasn't that great and Ronnie could beat him lol the best part is you dismiss many eye witness accounts if favor of a poor quality scan or compressed video and claim you know better than someone who was inches aways its the epitome of arrogance & stupidity , you're an internet-fan-boy , you're experience and knowledge is weak and severely limited .

[Hulkster]

I feel in 98 and 01 ASC, Ronnie tied Dorian's all-time best.

ND is so close minded he won't even entertain the idea that Ronnie was ever tied with dorian for dryness.

to him (as a result of his stubborness) the idea is laugable.

how stupid..

[NarcissisticDeity]

I never said that Dorian's conditioning was a myth. If I did, please show me where and I will take back my comment. I said that Ronnie's conditioning in 98, 99, and 01 ASC were just as good as Dorian's with maybe a difference of a few ounces of water. The difference is not black and white like the Dorian nuthuggers like to portray. Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem if someone argued that Ronnie had better conditioning although I disagree. I feel in 98 and 01 ASC, Ronnie tied Dorian's all-time best conditioning. Ronnie in 99 was carrying just a tad bit of water. However, I believe it actually helped cause his muscles to look fuller.

1998 and maybe the 2001 ASC Ronnie may have matched Dorian for dryness , 1999 sorry no dice , 1998 - 1999 there is a noticeable difference reguardless if you disagree , Ronnie was fuller in 1999 and it came at the expense of hardness and dryness , he was still good enough to win but my original point stands he was never as big and hard and dry as Yates.

[Hulkster]

its YOUR opinion Dorian looks bad in many shots its also YOUR opinion that Shawn Ray beats Dorian Yates in the back double biceps shot lol you know very little

And you post some shots of Dorian and claim how horrible he looks and it's a crappy scan , when you scan an image if its small in the magazine and resize to a decent size the quality suffers its NOT indicitive of how he actually looked at the contest even though you claim the contrary and like the video once its compressed it loses some quality I know this because I have the 93/94 taped off ESPN and its much clearer and the quality is much better , for you to base an opinion on some crappy scans and compressed video is premature and inaccurate but you're to stupid to know this , and it fits your agenda which is to try and convince everyone that Dorian wasn't that great and Ronnie could beat him lol the best part is you dismiss many eye witness accounts if favor of a poor quality scan or compressed video and claim you know better than someone who was inches aways its the epitome of arrogance & stupidity , you're an internet-fan-boy , you're experience and knowledge is weak and severely limited .

yeah, it must be the "crappy scan"..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND is so close minded he won't even entertain the idea that Ronnie was ever tied with dorian for dryness.

to him (as a result of his stubborness) the idea is laugable.

how stupid..

do you ever tire of being proved wrong? I've said COUNTLESS times Ronnie may have matched Yates for dryness in 1998 but NOT 1999 , so I will continue to prove you wrong with every letter you type. 

[Hulkster]

he was still good enough to win but my original point stands he was never as big and hard and dry as Yates.

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