Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, we all know ronnie got owned going for his 9th consquitive Mr. O.

yes, he won 8 straight.

thats 2 more than 6

He didn't just lose trying to go for his 9th consecutive Mr Olympia , he lost the most important Mr Olympia contest in the history of the sport , in all probability no one will ever have this chance again and he dropped the ball and even if he does win 9 it will always be prefaced by he blew it

Ronnie has 8 Yates has 6 ......Dorian retired on his own terms and went out a winner , Ronnie already lost 4 in a row made some questionable comments and if he doesn't win 9 is reputation with be tarnished for being a guy who should have hung it up like Samir , like Ronnie said he's gonna be around a lot longer than people want him to be and if thats the case he's only hurting himself.

[NeoSeminole]

He didn't just lose trying to go for his 9th consecutive Mr Olympia , he lost the most important Mr Olympia contest in the history of the sport , in all probability no one will ever have this chance again and he dropped the ball and even if he does win 9 it will always be prefaced by he blew it

Ronnie has 8 Yates has 6 ......Dorian retired on his own terms and went out a winner , Ronnie already lost 4 in a row made some questionable comments and if he doesn't win 9 is reputation with be tarnished for being a guy who should have hung it up like Samir , like Ronnie said he's gonna be around a lot longer than people want him to be and if thats the case he's only hurting himself.

bullshit, that's like saying Dorian will always be remembered for quitting b/c he was scared of losing in 98. You're just adding your own preface to demean Ronnie. If he wins his 9th sandow, then Ronnie will always be remembered as the winningest Mr. Olympia of all-time. I would be much more impressed by a person/team who wins their sport's most prestigious title 9 years out of 10 than who wins only 6 times and calls it quits.

[Hulkster]

I would be much more impressed by a person/team who wins their sport's most prestigious title 9 years out of 10 than who wins only 6 times and calls it quits.
 
 
 

exactly. and especially if that person won 4 of the 6 titles looking as "balanced" as this:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

bullshit, that's like saying Dorian will always be remembered for quitting b/c he was scared of losing in 98. You're just adding your own preface to demean Ronnie. If he wins his 9th sandow, then Ronnie will always be remembered as the winningest Mr. Olympia of all-time. I would be much more impressed by a person/team who wins their sport's most prestigious title 9 years out of 10 than who wins only 6 times and calls it quits.

Its NOT like saying Dorian was scared the guy was a proven winner , he retired on his terms because the tricep tear was so severe he could NOT train with the same intensity and with the same amount of weight he retired because he couldn't compete at HIS level

Common sense tells you Ronnie will be the winningest Mr Olympia ever no fucking kidding however he'll always be remembered as blowing the big one period , Haney was going for the record in 1991 to beat Arnold's record and won he didn't blow it

And thats your problem you don't put Ronnie's wins in context , typical Coleman fan you are equate quantity with quality

Dorian's reign he was NEVER once in danger of losing he dominated every single one of his wins

Ronnie had 4 close calls

Dorian's level of competition is in all probability the best in the history of the sport

Ronnie's wasn't Ronnie reigned over guys that Yates dominated at much better personal bests and Ronnie's man competition would be left for dead in the extremely competitive 1990s , its not Ronnie's fault the competition was ho-hum but whats the sense of claiming how great he was if his competition wasn't that great?

So you may be impressed more with more titles over mediocre competition but that doesn't change the fact that Dorian absolutely dominated a much higher caliber of field , never came close to losing on any occasion and retired without a defeat , Ronnie lost the 2002 SOS and the 2006 Mr Olympia Dorian never lost anything

And if Ronnie doesn't win number 9 his legacy will be tarnished as the guy who should retired with 8 straight instead of the guy who was great at one time and consistantly got worse , of wait thats how it is already 

[delta9mda]

yes, we all know ronnie got owned going for his 9th consquitive Mr. O.

yes, he won 8 straight.

thats 2 more than 6

you guys focus too much on a little muscle called the biceps and remember, haney won 8, first. till ronnie can get 9, haney is still the man.

[Hulkster]

we are not focusing on the biceps or even the arms themselves.

we are focusing on the balance issues that they create.

ND claims that dorian has such better balance and proportion than Ronnie, when any idiot can see that this is not true:

[NarcissisticDeity]

we are not focusing on the biceps or even the arms themselves.

we are focusing on the balance issues that they create.

ND claims that dorian has such better balance and proportion than Ronnie, when any idiot can see that this is not true:

MORON is that Dorian at his best? how many times did I preface that statement that AT HIS BEST Dorian has much better balance & proportion , you need to post pics of Dorian at his worse to prove your point and your point is lame Dorian 1993 and even post tear 1995 CRUSHES Ronnie in terms of balance & proportion , and density and conditioning and size depending on the year

everytime you posted a strawman or a slanted compairson you play yourself , you can't compete with me on a level playing field you fear Dorian at his best for a reason 

[Hulkster]

and even post tear 1995 CRUSHES Ronnie in terms of balance & proportion , and density and conditioning and size depending on the year

ahahahahahahahahaha

 

this is why everyone thinks you are a delusional fool.

[NeoSeminole]

Its NOT like saying Dorian was scared the guy was a proven winner , he retired on his terms because the tricep tear was so severe he could NOT train with the same intensity and with the same amount of weight he retired because he couldn't compete at HIS level

Common sense tells you Ronnie will be the winningest Mr Olympia ever no fucking kidding however he'll always be remembered as blowing the big one period , Haney was going for the record in 1991 to beat Arnold's record and won he didn't blow it

And thats your problem you don't put Ronnie's wins in context , typical Coleman fan you are equate quantity with quality

Dorian's reign he was NEVER once in danger of losing he dominated every single one of his wins

Ronnie had 4 close calls

Dorian's level of competition is in all probability the best in the history of the sport

Ronnie's wasn't Ronnie reigned over guys that Yates dominated at much better personal bests and Ronnie's man competition would be left for dead in the extremely competitive 1990s , its not Ronnie's fault the competition was ho-hum but whats the sense of claiming how great he was if his competition wasn't that great?

So you may be impressed more with more titles over mediocre competition but that doesn't change the fact that Dorian absolutely dominated a much higher caliber of field , never came close to losing on any occasion and retired without a defeat , Ronnie lost the 2002 SOS and the 2006 Mr Olympia Dorian never lost anything

And if Ronnie doesn't win number 9 his legacy will be tarnished as the guy who should retired with 8 straight instead of the guy who was great at one time and consistantly got worse , of wait thats how it is already

listen closely son, I never said that Dorian was a horrible Mr. Olympia or that he's remembered for quitting bodybuilding out of fear of losing in 98. My point is that you are simply adding your own pretext to demean Ronnie's accomplishments. I was demonstrating how the same dumb mentality can be applied to Dorian. You act like Ronnie only competed against King Kamali's and Greg Kovac's. Ronnie has beaten Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, Shawn Ray, Chris Cormier and Paul Dillet too, and he's won with perfect scores. So it's unfair to say that Dorian "dominated" his competition while Ronnie didn't in a weak attempt to make Dorian look better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ahahahahahahahahaha

 

this is why everyone thinks you are a delusional fool.

Keep posting 96 pics kid you keep playing yourself lol and even post tear Dorian still has better balance

[NarcissisticDeity]

listen closely son, I never said that Dorian was a horrible Mr. Olympia or that he's remembered for quitting bodybuilding out of fear of losing in 98. My point is that you are simply adding your own pretext to demean Ronnie's accomplishments. I was demonstrating how the same dumb mentality can be applied to Dorian. You act like Ronnie only competed against King Kamali's and Greg Kovac's. Ronnie has beaten Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, Shawn Ray, Chris Cormier and Paul Dillet too, and he's won with perfect scores. So it's unfair to say that Dorian "dominated" his competition while Ronnie didn't in a weak attempt to make Dorian look better.

NO ONE can take Ronnie's accomplisments away from him the guy is an eight time Mr Olympia , but Ronnie beat guys that never came close to Dorian and most were past their primes when Ronnie beat them to argue otherwise is retarded

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie beat guys that never came close to Dorian and most were past their primes when Ronnie beat them to argue otherwise is retarded

how do you figure that none of these guys ever came close to Dorian? B/c he won with perfect scores? Well, so did Ronnie for several years against the same competitors that Dorian faced. You claim they were past their prime. Maybe this is true, but not by much. Flex Wheeler and Kevin Levrone both looked amazing at the 99 GP which Ronnie won with straight firsts. Mr. Consistency Shawn's look never changed much all the years he competed, and Ronnie still beat him. So I'm not really sure where you are going with this whole "Dorian faced much greater competition."

[NarcissisticDeity]

how do you figure nobody ever came close to Dorian? B/c he won with perfect scores? Well, so did Ronnie for several years against the same competitors that Dorian faced. You claim they were past their prime. Maybe this is true, but not by much. Flex Wheeler and Kevin Levrone both looked amazing at the 99 GP which Ronnie won with straight firsts. Mr. Consistency Shawn's look never changed much all the years he competed, and Ronnie still beat him. So I'm not really sure where you are going with this whole "Dorian faced much greater competition."

Sure Flex looked great in 99 but it wasn't 1993 same thing with Lervone , Shawn Ray reached his personal bests in the mid 90s , coinsidence that Ronnie starts beating guys when their past their primes?

this is the general consensus about Flex

quote Flex magazine Jan 1999

When Ronnie is 100% , Flex has to be 100% to prevail. On October 10 , 1998 , Flex wasn't and Ronnie was.

Shawn stating the obvious

Shawn on Flex Wheeler


Wheeler's genetically gifted , but sometimes he would drag through his workouts when I trained with him. I thought he was awesome in his first Olympia, he placed second to Dorian. But Wheeler's NEVER again matched that condition.

[Hulkster]

So I'm not really sure where you are going with this whole "Dorian faced much greater competition."

he's not going anywhere because he can't.

he neglects to mention that in 'dominating' the sport he routinely got 'dominated' by everyone onstage:

 

even those who place out of the top 10 in 1994:

[Hulkster]

Sure Flex looked great in 99 but it wasn't 1993 same thing with Lervone , Shawn Ray reached his personal bests in the mid 90s , coinsidence that Ronnie starts beating guys when their past their primes?

Ronnie started beating everyone because RONNIE REACHED HIS PRIME not because everyone else was past their's

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

he's not going anywhere because he can't.

he neglects to mention that in 'dominating' the sport he routinely got 'dominated' by everyone onstage:

 

even those who place out of the top 10 in 1994:

Sure he did , dure he did lol

Julian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia

There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie started beating everyone because RONNIE REACHED HIS PRIME not because everyone else was past their's

 

LMFAO his prime he ' beat ' Flex by the narrowest of margins in bodybuilding history and this isn't 1993 Flex either lol owned

[pobrecito]

Sure he did , dure he did lol

Julian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia

There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.

That quote is excellent !! But Hulkster has more credibility, therefore, this quote is void

[NeoSeminole]

Sure Flex looked great in 99 but it wasn't 1993 same thing with Lervone , Shawn Ray reached his personal bests in the mid 90s , coinsidence that Ronnie starts beating guys when their past their primes?

this is the general consensus about Flex

quote Flex magazine Jan 1999

"When Ronnie is 100% , Flex has to be 100% to prevail. On October 10 , 1998 , Flex wasn't and Ronnie was."

did you even bother to check the date on that quote? It's from the Jan. issue which means its in reference to the 98 Mr. Olympia. Ronnie improved from 98 to 99. So the comment doesn't apply to the 99 version of Ronnie, nor the 01 ASC or 03 versions either for that matter. In case that is too complicated for you, I will restate myself in layman's terms. Saying that a 100% Flex Wheeler can beat a 100% Ronnie in 98 is NOT the same as saying a 100% Flex Wheeler can beat a 100% Ronnie in 99.

Shawn stating the obvious

Shawn on Flex Wheeler

"Wheeler's genetically gifted , but sometimes he would drag through his workouts when I trained with him. I thought he was awesome in his first Olympia, he placed second to Dorian. But Wheeler's NEVER again matched that condition."

I'm pretty sure Flex himself doesn't consider 93 his personal best.

[pobrecito]

93 is Flex's best bar none - no oil, shredded glutes, even had hams too

[NarcissisticDeity]

That quote is excellent !! But Hulkster has more credibility, therefore, this quote is void

You know what I never thought about that , You're right Hulkster from the comfort of his own home looked at a few pictures and came to the conclusion that Yates was the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , and we all know about his many years in the business and all the contests he judged of and don't forget that time he seen Nimrod Kings calves lol

[NeoSeminole]

93 is Flex's best bar none - no oil, shredded glutes, even had hams too

oh, so now suddenly you are more of a bodybuilding expert than Flex Wheeler?

[Bear]

I am a fan of Lee Labrada's physique but he could only dream of having delts as big as this. The same goes for Ronnie Spazman:

what? you're not the daddy mate, and Ronnie's delts are bigger, lol

[NeoSeminole]

what? you're not the daddy mate, and Ronnie's delts are bigger, lol

that is interesting. Ronnie has larger delts than Dorian, and his biceps are still more peaked. I smell excuses...

[NarcissisticDeity]

did you even bother to check the date on that quote? It's from the Jan. issue which means its in reference to the 98 Mr. Olympia. Ronnie improved from 98 to 99. So the comment doesn't apply to the 99 version of Ronnie, nor the 01 ASC or 03 versions either for that matter. In case that is too complicated for you, I will restate myself in layman's terms. Saying that a 100% Flex Wheeler can beat a 100% Ronnie in 98 is NOT the same as saying a 100% Flex Wheeler can beat a 100% Ronnie in 99.

I'm pretty sure Flex himself doesn't consider 93 his personal best.

It doesn't matter in 98 or 99 Flex thought he won in 99 lol and I posted a recent comment 2006 I believe where Flex says if he never retied he would OWN a few of Ronnie's Sandows its all a matter of semantics , the bottom line if when Ronnie beat Kev , Shawn , Flex etc they were NOT at or near their personal bests this is a proveable fact

And 1993 was in my and in many peoples opinions is as good as it got for Flex he may disgaree I don't know but to sum up the briliance of pobrecito he was Oil free and much harder and drier.