Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pobrecito]

Ronnie's structure is undeniable as a bodybuilder[at his best in 1998, 1999 IMO] but things have changed...and that pic of him at the english gp 1999 with Chris Cormier is unreal!At his peak condition he trounces Dorian on everything except possibly legs and conditioning to a degree, he's always holding some water beneath the skin which is unfortunate. But they just don't have that Yates look from the back, in terms of paper thin skin and dryness..that back shot of Dorian is unbelieveable! Sometimes when you look @ a picture you have to focus your eyes to find the contrast between skin, water, and the muscle...but it's immediately visible with the yates shot

Overall I prefer Ronnie - but he never quite nailed that conditioning like Dorian Yates

More proof that Yates was a superior bodybuilder beating Coleman on muscularity and condition !! 

[NarcissisticDeity]

bwahahahahahaha, please show me where it says if you keep using your adversaries lingo, then you've admitted defeat. You just made that up. The reason I use "yawn" is to show you how dumb and hackneyed you sound. I'm not reaching for an advantage with traps no more than you are with the sartorius or tensor fasciae latae muscles.

again, I will repeat myself since you appear to be struggling with your reading comprehension. I said Ronnie is holding his own in your side triceps comparison. My opinion is supported with explanations and illustrative examples. It may be that you used a poor shot of Dorian. Either way, my comment still stands.

bwahahahahahaha, please show me where it says if you keep using your adversaries lingo, then you've admitted defeat. You just made that up. The reason I use "yawn" is to show you how dumb and hackneyed you sound. I'm not reaching for an advantage with traps no more than you are with the sartorius or tensor fasciae latae muscles.

I've always used ' yawn ' especially after hearing you guys with the same old tired rap and you and Hulkster have been reduced to using my lingo , this is a fact if you can find a thread with you posting it before me good luck , but you can't  and you are reaching for advantages with traps and why? because Dorians traps blow Ronnie's out of the water reguardless of how you THINK they ' appear ' in this pose , and Ronnie' s traps don't show better separation and detail compared to Dorian's sartorius or tensor fasciae latae so you've failed once again on two fronts

again, I will repeat myself since you appear to be struggling with your reading comprehension. I said Ronnie is holding his own in your side triceps comparison. My opinion is supported with explanations and illustrative examples. It may be that you used a poor shot of Dorian. Either way, my comment still stands.

Again I know exactly what you're trying to get at and he's not holding is own , not in the least , the fact you think he is , is your problem just like you think he's the same size in 01 as 99 its your limited abilities and Dorian 1993 in the side tricep is a ' poor shot ' lol this is just getting better lol

no, you cannot use lower body since I was specifically referring to your comparison. It does not include the legs. Now if you made another comparison which did include the legs, then it's fair game to critique their lower body. I don't understand why you are incapable of grasping this.

yawn , I can comment on whatever I like , deal with it and its very much fair game and why? we both know Ronnie sucks in balanced legs , we both know Ronnie's calves are pathetically weak so I post a full pic what changes? lol his calves get proportioned ? his balance improves? NO

[NarcissisticDeity]

hey, wasn't it bob chick that was quoted over and over again by ND as saying "pics mean nothing" as at attempt to justify dorian's mediocrity compared to 99 Ronnie?

hahahaha

I guess he set the dorian nut huggers straight:

Even Bob knows Yates was vastly overrated..

See exactly why you'll never be able to compete because you have to lie , just like your Shawn Ray quote about Dorian NOT being as hard in 93 as he was in 92 that was a blatant lie and now its I'm using the quote to justify Dorian's mediocrity? give me a break I used to quote to prove you and the other ignorant people wrong , wrong about your assessments on Dorian's conditioning , which the internet-fan-boys think they've figured out using scans and compressed video and again you have to insert your own opinion into Bobs to try and act like he agrees with you ' vastly overrated ' ? 

lets see you've cried about fake pics , used years thats not his best , used resized images to effect quality , lied about quotes , denied any advanatage Yates has , called Dorian the most overrated bodybuilder of all time lol said he should have lost every single Mr Olympia he's been in , I'd say you pretty much melted down to the level of a troll and have nothing of value to offer any more 

[NeoSeminole]

I've always used ' yawn ' especially after hearing you guys with the same old tired rap and you and Hulkster have been reduced to using my lingo , this is a fact if you can find a thread with you posting it before me good luck , but you can't

monster avoidance of my question. I asked you to show me where it says if you keep using your adversaries lingo, then you've admitted defeat. You just made that up. I already told you the reason why I use "yawn." I want to show you how dumb and hackneyed you sound. So there's no point for me to find a thread where I used it before you since I never claimed ownership.

and you are reaching for advantages with traps and why? because Dorians traps blow Ronnie's out of the water reguardless of how you THINK they ' appear ' in this pose , and Ronnie' s traps don't show better separation and detail compared to Dorian's sartorius or tensor fasciae latae so you've failed once again on two fronts

I'm not reaching for any advantages b/c I included traps in my assessment of your comparison from top to bottom. Your comment would be akin to objecting if someone compared obliques. They are visible in the side triceps and, therefore, must be taken into account. I find it laughable that you accuse me of grasping at straws yet you claim the sartorius or tensor fasciae latae muscles are an advantage for Dorian.

Again I know exactly what you're trying to get at and he's not holding is own , not in the least , the fact you think he is , is your problem just like you think he's the same size in 01 as 99 its your limited abilities and Dorian 1993 in the side tricep is a ' poor shot ' lol this is just getting better lol

You are delusional if you think Dorian is somehow "destroying" Ronnie in your comparison. The only thing Dorian has over him there is overall balance and a better midsection. Ronnie is winning in muscularity and definition.

yawn , I can comment on whatever I like , deal with it and its very much fair game and why? we both know Ronnie sucks in balanced legs , we both know Ronnie's calves are pathetically weak so I post a full pic what changes? lol his calves get proportioned ? his balance improves? NO

wrong, you cannot use lower body since your comparison doesn't include legs. I will use a simple analogy b/c you seem to have great difficulty understand this concept. It would be like you comparing biceps between Larry Scott and Lee Priest, and me saying "oh yeah? Well, Lee Priest has better arms b/c his triceps are much better."

[IceCold]

LOL. Bob gave it good to the yates fans. Oh well, it's history now, but we can always look back at the pics and video and have a good laugh.

you guys will accept anyone's ppinion to support your claims.

i guess bob is more credibly than flex, paul, nasser, shawn, and ronnie himself. 

[NeoSeminole]

you guys will accept anyone's ppinion to support your claims.

i guess bob is more credibly than flex, paul, nasser, shawn, and ronnie himself.

ha ha ha ha, are you shitting me? The Ronnie fans have been arguing that quotes are pointless in this discussion. It's the Dorian nuthuggers who pick and choose which opinions to accept. The reason Iceman posted Bob's quote is to show that it goes both ways.

[pumpster]

you guys will accept anyone's ppinion to support your claims.

i guess bob is more credibly than flex, paul, nasser, shawn, and ronnie himself. 

This from someone with absolutely no objectivity, obsessed with 1-2 of Yates' attribtues to the exclusion of all else. Wall after wall of Yates posters smattered with DNA. LOL

[IceCold]

ha ha ha ha, are you shitting me? The Ronnie fans have been arguing that quotes are pointless in this discussion. It's the Dorian nuthuggers who pick and choose which opinions to accept. The reason Iceman posted Bob's quote is to show that it goes both ways.

you are so wrong.

from the beginning you and hulkster have ignored every quote about dorian that is good - whether its from dillet, mcgough, or ronnie himself.

mcgough was criticized heavily earlier in this threat for his support of yates.  then he says something about ronnie's back, and now he is hulkster and yourself's hero.  

in case you didnt get the point about the quotes.

you are not qualified to make judgements about a competitor.  neither am i.

the quotes provide support to somoene's claims.  

these arent quotes from guys who pretend to be training experts, but yet use a bowflex in the basement.

these are people who competed against dorian and ronnie as well as are paid to write about bbing.

just like a research paper.  you cant just put shit down without quotes and listing your sources to prove your points.

get it.  

[IceCold]

This from someone with absolutely no objectivity, obsessed with 1-2 of Yates' attribtues to the exclusion of all else. Wall after wall of Yates posters smattered with DNA. LOL

those posters are on the basement wall of your gym with your bowflex.

you are a joke.

ronnie, sergio, and robbie are all laughing at you. 

imagine the laughter they would have if someone mo claims to be an expert on everything related to bbing, but yet doesnt even go to a gym and uses a machine from info-mercials in the basement.

you are pathetic. 

[pumpster]

you are so wrong.

from the beginning you and hulkster have ignored every quote about dorian that is good - whether its from dillet, mcgough, or ronnie himself.

mcgough was criticized heavily earlier in this threat for his support of yates.  then he says something about ronnie's back, and now he is hulkster and yourself's hero.  

in case you didnt get the point about the quotes.

you are not qualified to make judgements about a competitor.  neither am i.

the quotes provide support to somoene's claims.  

these arent quotes from guys who pretend to be training experts, but yet use a bowflex in the basement.

these are people who competed against dorian and ronnie as well as are paid to write about bbing.

just like a research paper.  you cant just put shit down without quotes and listing your sources to prove your points.

get it.  

Long rambling story short: "I'm as obsessed with Yates' balls as with pumpster". LOL

[NeoSeminole]

you are so wrong. from the beginning you and hulkster have ignored every quote about dorian that is good - whether its from dillet, mcgough, or ronnie himself. mcgough was criticized heavily earlier in this threat for his support of yates.  then he says something about ronnie's back, and now he is hulkster and yourself's hero. in case you didnt get the point about the quotes. you are not qualified to make judgements about a competitor.  neither am i. the quotes provide support to somoene's claims. these arent quotes from guys who pretend to be training experts, but yet use a bowflex in the basement. these are people who competed against dorian and ronnie as well as are paid to write about bbing. just like a research paper.  you cant just put shit down without quotes and listing your sources to prove your points. get it.

bullshit. I have never ignored any quotes in favor of Dorian. My main issue is that most of the Dorian quotes are from during his reign as Mr. Olympia. Obviously they will say "Dorian is the best" or "Dorian is unstoppable" b/c he was the best up until that time. A lot of the people who praised Dorian later said "Ronnie is the best," yet the Dorian nuthuggers choose to ignore this. Paul Dillet and Peter McGough are two of the said people. Another problem I have is where do we draw the line between who is a qualified source and who is not? If one person says Dorian would win and someone else says Ronnie would win, obviously they can't both be right.

[IceCold]

Long rambling story short: "I'm as obsessed with Yates' balls as with pumpster". LOL

i still dont understand how and why you are so pathetic.  

you dont even go to a gym.  you workout on a bowflex and have the nerve to give training advice.

why do you not go to a gym?

you have never explained yourself and why you think using a bowflex, a machine you saw on a late nate info-mericial after you jerked it after countless times to robbie's brief scene in pumping iron gives you the right, any right to judge another bber and give out training advice.

[IceCold]

bullshit. I have never ignored any quotes in favor of Dorian. My main issue is that most of the Dorian quotes are from during his reign as Mr. Olympia. Obviously they will say "Dorian is the best" or "Dorian is unstoppable" b/c he was the best up until that time. A lot of the people who praised Dorian later said "Ronnie is the best," yet the Dorian nuthuggers choose to ignore this. Paul Dillet and Peter McGough are two of the said people. Another problem I have is where do we draw the line between who is a qualified source and who is not? If one person says Dorian would win and someone else says Ronnie would win, obviously they can't both be right.

my point wasnt so much as to 'who would win' but more as proof as to hulkster's claims about yates being overrated and whatever else he said. 

[pumpster]

Look how small Yates' arms are here relative to the barrel chest..

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=126751.0

[IceCold]

Look how small Yates' arms are here relative to the barrel chest..

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=126751.0

STOP AVOIDING THE ISSUE

i still dont understand how and why you are so pathetic. 

you dont even go to a gym.  you workout on a bowflex and have the nerve to give training advice.

why do you not go to a gym?

you have never explained yourself and why you think using a bowflex, a machine you saw on a late nate info-mericial after you jerked it after countless times to robbie's brief scene in pumping iron gives you the right, any right to judge another bber and give out training advice.

[Iceman1981]

you guys will accept anyone's ppinion to support your claims.

i guess bob is more credibly than flex, paul, nasser, shawn, and ronnie himself. 

And you yates nuthuggers, don't accept anyone opinions?

[Iceman1981]

Look how small Yates' arms are here relative to the barrel chest..

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=126751.0

[IceCold]

And you yates nuthuggers, don't accept anyone opinions?

just wanted to point at that bob said:

-he deserved to beat rusty jeffers

-tom prince weighs 230 now. 

[IceCold]

And you yates nuthuggers, don't accept anyone opinions?

just wanted to point at that no matter who it is and if they say something positive about coleman or bad about yates, you guys continually post it. 

but when someone says something positive about yates whether dillet saying his 95 form is the best all time or flex calling him untouchable, you ignore it.


FUCCKING HYPOCRITES.

[pumpster]

just wanted to point at that no matter who it is and if they say something positive about coleman or bad about yates, you guys continually post it. 

but when someone says something positive about yates whether dillet saying his 95 form is the best all time or flex calling him untouchable, you ignore it.


FUCCKING HYPOCRITES.

MONSTER DEFENSIVENESS.

Like Yates is his personal buddy.LOL

[IceCold]

Like Yates is his personal buddy.LOL

personal buddy like my bowflex.

hilarious how much you want to ban certain people from this forum, like you do in the 'training forum' for them calling you out:

how can you be a moderator and give training advice when you dont even go to a gym?


pumpster probably walks around all day talking to various people about training.  trying to use big words and impress them with his 'knowledge'.

finally someone asks: "hey, what gym do you go to?".

pumpster replies: "i dont go to a gym.  i use a bowflex in the basement".

the person laughs thinking pumpster is joking and that he is a funny guy.

surely, no one would pressume to be an expert on training and not even go to a gym, but rather use a bowflex in the basement.

i guess not. 

[serpentine007]

Arent you people dead yet? I asked you to die already before. Please, why is it taking so long?

[nder98]

Arent you people dead yet? I asked you to die already before. Please, why is it taking so long?

 I cant believe this stupid fucking thread is still going either...

[4thAD]

MODS PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD!

[Option D]

MODS PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD!

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