Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[suckmymuscle]

Keep in mind this is the saame clown who calls himself a "grad student of physiology" while spelling resistance "resistence". I'd be angry too, if i was that dopey.

  Pumpy, should I feel more sorry for you because you workout on a Bowflex or because you are poor and live in a shitty one-bedroom apartment.?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

it must be embarrassing for Suckmyasshole to type these lengthy posts, only to be proven wrong in just a few sentences or pics.

  LMFAO!!!!!! You haven't proven me wrong even once, sport, whereas I have owned your ass more times than I can even count. I even got you to admit that you were wrong.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Ok, now seriously, how exactly is Ronnie not flexing in this pic? He is extending his triceps and contracting it. And by the way, my point was to emphasize that separations are not only dependent on subcutaneous bodyfat and water levels. The evidence? Ronnie is clearly off in conditioning in this pic while Dorian is rock-hard, and yet Ronnie still has a more separated musculature than Dorian - look at the delt tie-in and triceps and biceps separations. How does it feel to have been proven wrong in a few sentences, Sperminole?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

im basing the term 'hardness' on what was written about yates, not necessarily my opinion.

so if magazine writers said Ronnie was "super dry and shredded" while only describing Dorian as "hard," does that mean it's impossible that Dorian was also just as conditioned? Think about it for a while.

eventhough he looks and is harder than ronnie.

maybe to you, but not to me. Ronnie looks harder in the arms, delts, pecs, glutes, quads, and hamstrings.

there is no way that ronnie can be 'just as big' as dorian, esp. when you are at the top ifbb level, 10 lbs. makes a big difference.

yes he can. It's called having superior bone structure and muscle fullness.

[NeoSeminole]

Answer me this question: do you still sustain that two guys at the same bodyfat level will have the exact same degree of muscular separations?

If you're asking me if I believe 2 bodybuilders with 3% body fat and 0 subcutaneous water will display the same level of definition, then my answer is yes.

As for the picture, Ronnie is clearly flexing, so I have no idea what you're talking about...

umm, look again. Ronnie's in transition getting ready to hit a side chest. He's not fully flexing like Dorian in the pic. You're honestly beyond retarded if you think this is proof Dorian was "harder."

[Iceman1981]

proven wrong, again.



the man and the pose that dominated the greatest competitive era of bbing, including ronnie coleman for 6 straight years. 

LOL, Ronnie beats him in everything I just mentioned. You are sounding like pubes now. Come on, get real man.

[Iceman1981]

Coleman in a solid third place here, synthol'd calves and all

And you're a blind ass if you think he is losing this pose. Ronnie is harder, thicker, seperated and more shredded than Flex or Chris in this pic. Chris is just too small and you have an oil filled flex looking soft as hell.

[pumpster]

Coleman in a solid third place here, synthol'd calves and all

Cormier's nowhere close to Coleman, has neither the detail or the size to be anything more than a distance 3rd. In that shot he's not even on the same page re: aesthetics that he's supposed to be known for. Wheeler's closer but still not comparable, is second to Coleman over the last 2 decades, not Yates.

[pumpster]

Now for a real mismatch..Yates neck-and-neck with Cormier, sporting those completely out-of-balance 17" cannons that SUCKY drools over...Yates' disappearing flapjacks on display on the back double-bi..

[Danimal77]

Yates was not 5'9"-5'10". He was billed at both 5'10", 5'10 1/2" and 5'11". NEVER 5'9". Ronnie WAS billed at 5'10" before his Mr. Olympia victories and then conveniently 5'11" upon becoming Mr. Olympia, or shortly before.

They are the SAME height. If anything, Yates has/had the height advantage of the two.

[RocketSwitch625]

Wheeler's closer but still not comparable, is second to Coleman over the last 2 decades, not Yates.

Coleman was 9th to Yates (at his worst) in 1997. What does that tell you? LOL

[NeoSeminole]

Coleman was 9th to Yates (at his worst) in 1997. What does that tell you? LOL

it tells us that Ronnie hadn't reached his prime yet.

[pumpster]

Coleman was 9th to Yates (at his worst) in 1997. What does that tell you? LOL

Zane beat Schwarzenegger in the 60s. What does that tell you? 

Pwned

[suckmymuscle]

If you're asking me if I believe 2 bodybuilders with 3% body fat and 0 subcutaneous water will display the same level of definition, then my answer is yes.

  And guess what? You are wrong. At the 1993 Olympia, both Dorian and Flex were at 3% bodyfat, and yet Wheeler had a clearly more separated musculature. This is even sadder to support your case, because Wheeler was retaining more water than Dorian and still had more muscular separations. So how do you explain this? According to your theory, the guy with the lower subcutaneous fat and water will always have the more defined muscles. Observation of reality does not support your case... thanks for admittting that you got owned

umm, look again. Ronnie's in transition getting ready to hit a side chest. He's not fully flexing like Dorian in the pic. You're honestly beyond retarded if you think this is proof Dorian was "harder."

  What difference does this make? Seriously. You are so fucking dumb that you didnt even understand my point. I said that Ronnie looks more defined in this picture than Dorian. More! Not less. This despite the fact that he is clearly holding more subcutaneous fat and water than Dorian. My point? That muscular separations are affected by factors other than subcutaneous fat and water. You said that the guy with the lowest subcutaneous fat and water will be more defined, and this picture proves you wrong.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[RocketSwitch625]

Zane beat Schwarzenegger in the 60s. What does that tell you? 

Pwned

How to make yourself look stupid.

Zane beat Schwarzenegger once (I think). However Yates beat Coleman 8 or more times over 6 years.

PWN£D. LOL

[RocketSwitch625]

How to make yourself look stupid.

Zane beat Schwarzenegger once (I think). However Yates beat Coleman 8 or more times over 6 years.

PWN£D. LOL

I could just see Ronnie Coleman as a movie star or a politician. HAHAHAHAHA

[suckmymuscle]

hardness is a subjective term. To you, Dorian looks harder. To me, Ronnie looks harder.

  The problem is that no one agrees with you except other morons. Ronnie was never as hard as Dorian. Give up. His 2001 ASC form was the hardest he's ever been for him.  Dorian has always been refered to as possessing granite'like hardness. Coleman became famous for his biceps, round muscle bellies and, in his later years, for his size. Dorian set a standard for hardness that is talked about to this day.

So claiming it as an advantage for either bodybuilder is pointless in this discussion. Regarding physical size, I already demonstrated that Ronnie was just as big as Dorian even though he weighed 10 lbs less. Dorian was carrying more body fat and his midsection is twice the size of Ronnie's. You keep making the mistake of assuming the extra weight manifested itself in increased muscle size.

  What a retarded statement. Dorian didn't carry any more bodyfat than Ronnie, and his gut was actually smaller. Furthermore, as I have already argued, it is likely that Ronnie carries less muscle, because black men have much heavier bones than whites.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pobrecito]

sucky rowed a 200lbs dumbell for 3 reps. don't fuck with him

[pumpster]

How to make yourself look stupid.

Zane beat Schwarzenegger once (I think). However Yates beat Coleman 8 or more times over 6 years.

PWN£D. LOL

All it took was ONE Zane win to obliterate your stupid logic LOL Nothing more was needed.

PWNED bwahahahahahahaahah

[IceCold]

LOL, Ronnie beats him in everything I just mentioned. You are sounding like pubes now. Come on, get real man.

disagree. 

[IceCold]

How to make yourself look stupid.

Zane beat Schwarzenegger once (I think). However Yates beat Coleman 8 or more times over 6 years.

PWN£D. LOL

serioulsy.

zane beat arnold one time,

yates dominated ronnie many, many times.

not only the olympia but the grand prix tours later.

so much for coleman's arms, taper, etc.

when will these clowns realized that ronnie had everything - except a bit more condition and fullness - when he competed against dorian.

in fact, his arms, taper, and details were even better during those years.

[pobrecito]

Yates had the X factor.

[NeoSeminole]

And guess what? You are wrong. At the 1993 Olympia, both Dorian and Flex were at 3% bodyfat, and yet Wheeler had a clearly more separated musculature. This is even sadder to support your case, because Wheeler was retaining more water than Dorian and still had more muscular separations. So how do you explain this?

Flex Wheeler had more detail from the front, but Dorian had more detail from the back. Remember: we are talking about the 93 Mr. Olympia - NOT the 93 ASC. Flex's lower back, glutes, and hamstrings were very smooth in comparison to Dorian's.

What difference does this make? Seriously. You are so fucking dumb that you didnt even understand my point. I said that Ronnie looks more defined in this picture than Dorian. More! Not less. This despite the fact that he is clearly holding more subcutaneous fat and water than Dorian.

hey fagg*t, stop omitting details to save face. Here is your exact quote.

"Here is an example. In this picture, Ronnie is off and still is more separated than Dorian. Yet, Dorian makes him look soft."

you compared a pic of Dorian flexing to Ronnie getting ready to hit a pose, and then claimed this as proof that Dorian was harder. My god you can be so f*cking dumb sometimes.

[pobrecito]

Flex Wheeler had more detail from the front, but Dorian had more detail from the back. Remember: we are talking about the 93 Mr. Olympia - NOT the 93 ASC. Flex's lower back, glutes, and hamstrings were very smooth in comparison to Dorian's.

hey fagg*t, stop lying to save face. Here is your exact quote.

"Here is an example. In this picture, Ronnie is off and still is more separated than Dorian. Yet, Dorian makes him look soft."

you compared a pic of Dorian flexing to Ronnie getting ready to hit a pose, and then claimed this as proof that Dorian was harder. My god you can be so f*cking dumb sometimes.

apparently you missed this post...

sucky rowed a 200lbs dumbell for 3 reps. don't fuck with him

[NeoSeminole]

The problem is that no one agrees with you except other morons. Ronnie was never as hard as Dorian. Give up.

if we follow your dumb ass logic, then you're a moron b/c no one agrees with you about Dorian beating a prime Ronnie except other morons. Several professional bodybuilders and reputable magazine writers have all remarked that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time. So give it up.

His 2001 ASC form was the hardest he's ever been for him. Dorian has always been refered to as possessing granite'like hardness. Coleman became famous for his biceps, round muscle bellies and, in his later years, for his size. Dorian set a standard for hardness that is talked about to this day.

how easy it is to prove you wrong.