LMFAO, way to compromise you dignity and credibility with weird outbursts. If Hulkster's assertion of a blatant truth is 'by far the dumbest thing' he's ever typed then he's doing pretty well. Both sides of this debate are ALL personal opinion, so your anger at the opinion-based nature of the Ronnie team is owned by the hypocrisy of the inescapable subjectivity of your own argument.
OH who are these people that cling to internet-credibility ? I mean give me a break . Hulkster's assertion that his opinion evidence and it trumps the man in question who contradicts his claim is the dumbest thing he's ever typed , and I first to admit and have done so on many times that the pure nature of these debates is subjective , I've always maintained Dorian could beat Ronnie and Ronnie could beat Dorian , something they can't even do which shows you're fueled by bias and ignorance alone
I hate to break it to you sport , some things in this argument are NOT subjective , like who has better balance & proportion , either your muscles are balanced nicely or not , either one muscle group is well proportioned in relation to the others are not , either you're bone dry and rock hard or you're not , this is where I've made my case and proven my point in accordance with the IFBB judging criteria , which I've proven they're totally ignorant of
They're mistaken their personal opinions based on slanted comparisons , ignorance & bias , they omit any criteria that Dorian clearly has an edge in and hyperfocus on Ronnie's strengths . perfect example Hulkster claims Ronnie 1999 is better conditioned than Dorian Yates , and better conditioned than his previous conditioning in 1998 , I say no Ronnie's conditioning was much drier & harder in 1998 he just says NO and offers no reason why , I post this quote
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .Now he says Peter McGough doesn't know what he's talking about lol and eyewitness who was there in 1998 and in 1999 who presented medals to Flex and Ronnie standing two feet away and he doesn't know what he's talking about , Hulkster figured it all out on his computer I mean give me a break ! he's basing his opinion on faulty means to begin with pictures & videos he's actually saying his opinion is right over an eye witness for christ's sake
He claims pictures are just as accurate its a ' visual ' sport lol I show him these quotes
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007
Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.
Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example). Now how can he have the balls to claim he's right over one an eyewitness and two when pictures are a faulty means critiquing a contest and three he's ignorant to even what he's commenting on ? I'll tell you how he can't now to further highlight is monumental stupidity , Ronnie Coleman on Pro BodyBuilding Weekly specifically stated his best Olympia showing was 1998 was because his conditioning was " spot on "
Now remember conditioning isn't a subjective matter , I state Ronnie 1999 would be at a disadvantage when competing with Dorian because his conditioning wouldn't be as good as Dorians , I back this claim up with two eyewitness account that verify what I'm saying , and he insists still everyone else is wrong and he is right lol this is the type of stupidity I'm dealing with and its indicative of ALL of his ' arguments ' subjective or not
So in closing you couldn't be any more wrong my friend , I've backed up my nonsubjective claims with eyewitness accounts that Dorian has the edge in muscle balance & proportion , conditioning & density , muscular bulk ( depending on the year ) and posing & presentation , these guys have yet to counter this and are in a frustrated pattern of chasing their tales in circles .
