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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37875 on: December 08, 2007, 09:17:23 AM »
FYI his arms are small, hence bad proportions.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37876 on: December 08, 2007, 09:17:54 AM »
why yes... yes he is smooth in that pic.

smooth implied holding water and or fat he's neither if you want to continue making yourself look stupid be my guess . Dorian is the yardstick in which density & conditioned are measured by , or did you not get the memo?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37877 on: December 08, 2007, 09:20:32 AM »
there is no use trying to argue common sense, logic and just plain open your damn eyes with ND


he doesn't get it and never will.. ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37878 on: December 08, 2007, 09:20:37 AM »
FYI his arms are small, hence bad proportions.
Small because you say so huh?  ::) no they're in proportion and don't detract from the pose like Ronnie's who's biceps/triceps are actually to big and detract from this shot , not to mention his lack of calves and oversized quads and his short torso ,well you get the point , well no you don't lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37879 on: December 08, 2007, 09:23:09 AM »
smooth implied holding water and or fat he's neither if you want to continue making yourself look stupid be my guess. Dorian is the yardstick in which density & conditioned are measured by , or did you not get the memo?

smooth means devoid of separations and striations. Sorry sport, but the best conditioned bodybuilder shouldn't look like the Pillsbury Doughboy. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37880 on: December 08, 2007, 09:23:31 AM »
there is no use trying to argue common sense, logic and just plain open your damn eyes with ND


he doesn't get it and never will.. ::)

NO you don't get it

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched.
In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.



On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched.


What part of NO ONE did it better or NOBODY has ever matched did you fail to grasp? Not Ronnie , Not Flex , Not Ray , NOT ANYONE its that simple lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37881 on: December 08, 2007, 09:23:58 AM »
How is that textbook? muscular bulk , balance & proportion , and FYI his arms aren't small , he did tear his left quad in 94 so hence why it looks odd , his conditioning & density just the pose it self is done correctly its complete from head to toe , this front latspread is among the best of ANY in the history of bodybuilding.

LOL ND everyone is trying to tell you that what you just posted is the exact opposite of what is shown..lol

thick lats yes.

smooth cutless and puffy- yes.

small arms totally undersized - yes.

lol but you just keep on living in fantasy land.

lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37882 on: December 08, 2007, 09:25:00 AM »
lol notice how ND just ignores the pic and starts rhyming off quotes as if they mean something in light of the visual evidence in this thread?

lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37883 on: December 08, 2007, 09:25:27 AM »
smooth means devoid of separations and striations. Sorry sport, but the best conditioned bodybuilder shouldn't look like the Pillsbury Doughboy. ;)

Neo you played your best hand and you came up short , you lost lol


On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched.



While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian

Neo either you or Peter McGough is wrong and I'm no " Certified Personal Trainer " but Its very safe to assume who is wrong  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37884 on: December 08, 2007, 09:26:37 AM »
Neo you played your best hand and you came up short , you lost lol

ND, you automatically lose if you have to declare yourself the winner. Nobody is buying your garbage.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37885 on: December 08, 2007, 09:26:51 AM »
LOL ND everyone is trying to tell you that what you just posted is the exact opposite of what is shown..lol

thick lats yes.

smooth cutless and puffy- yes.

small arms totally undersized - yes.

lol but you just keep on living in fantasy land.

lol

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You're the idiot in fantasy land lol you're saying you know who is better conditioned than someone who was there LMFAO and not just some casual fan we're talking about the former editor of Flex Magazine lol I rest my case.

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37886 on: December 08, 2007, 09:29:23 AM »
ND, you automatically lose if you have to declare yourself the winner. Nobody is buying your garbage.

Great logic lol No I proved my point that Dorian's conditioning was UNEQUALED and I was being kind by stating Ronnie may have matched Dorian in 98/01 lol but he have confirmation thats not true lol couple that with the other points I proved ( after the fact BTW ) of Dorian having better balance & proportion ( they are separate just to let you know Neo ) being more complete and a better poser yes my case is proven and my argument untouchable

you're left with denial .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37887 on: December 08, 2007, 09:55:35 AM »
I'm going to teach you morons about converging evidence I'll use for my example this outstanding back double biceps shot from the 1995 Mr Olympia


Lets start with the Official IFBB Judging

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Now lets get a critique on Dorian's ' symmetry ' from ironically enough an IFBB Judge

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .


Now lets couple that with McGough's quote on his density & conditioning

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


Now all those points converge and proves MY point that Dorian meets the criteria better than Ronnie and would beat him , you idiots have yet you counter this you're to busy stuck in denial about his conditioning

2001 Arnold Classic is 244-247 pounds MAX Dorian is 269 pounds that covers the muscular bulk part of the criteria all evidence converges to one point and thats Dorian Yates .




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37888 on: December 08, 2007, 10:38:59 AM »
oversized arms on Ronnie?  You rave about Lee Priest's...you don't think his are too big?  Only Ronnie's are, right.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37889 on: December 08, 2007, 10:49:39 AM »
oversized arms on Ronnie?  You rave about Lee Priest's...you don't think his are too big?  Only Ronnie's are, right.

You ever see me brag about how great Lee Priest's overall balance & proportion are? NO and the difference between Lee Priest's arms are Ronnie is , Lee proportionate forearms and Ronnie doesn't hence having better overall balance & proportion in his arms , Ronnie's biceps and triceps in certain pose dwarf his forearms which lag behind in shape ( they're shaped like bowling pins thick at the bottom and very thin near the wrist ) and I specifically mentioned that they're oversized in the front latspread which among other reasons his shot is not textbook even though on paper it should be.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37890 on: December 08, 2007, 10:51:33 AM »
ND, have you actually walked into a gym and worked out this calender year?
Here comes the money shot

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37891 on: December 08, 2007, 10:53:44 AM »
ND, have you actually walked into a gym and worked out this calender year?

No I have a BowFlex and I can bench 400 pounds for 10 reps   ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37892 on: December 08, 2007, 11:00:39 AM »
No I have a BowFlex and I can bench 400 pounds for 10 reps   ;)

hmm..that is nothing, I hear that there is a guy on here that can do more on his BowFlex.. ;D

can someone post that pic of the pumpster himself please
Here comes the money shot

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37893 on: December 08, 2007, 11:29:16 AM »
oversized arms on Ronnie?  You rave about Lee Priest's...you don't think his are too big?  Only Ronnie's are, right.

hahahaha what do you expect other than more contradictions? The difference is lee is an "attractive white BB", exactly what this clown looks for. :-*

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37894 on: December 08, 2007, 11:30:00 AM »
ND, have you actually walked into a gym and worked out this calender year?

LOL what do you think? Even his total gym's collecting dust.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37895 on: December 08, 2007, 12:17:26 PM »
This is just an outstanding textbook front latspread man this is as good as it gets

i dont understand what is so textbook about it. i mean i see no cuts, little seperationa and no striations. on top of that his definition is lacking,quads have no sweep and look smallish. his lats are gigantic, way to big for his arms, and his chest looks like it would at 8 weeks out, no cuts whatsoever.


you have a very skew view of reality, im sorry

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37896 on: December 08, 2007, 12:22:29 PM »
hahahaha what do you expect other than more contradictions? The difference is lee is an "attractive white BB", exactly what this clown looks for. :-*

enough said  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37897 on: December 08, 2007, 12:27:18 PM »
Did ND actually say Ronnie's arms are too big? hahaha ND is smoking crack.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37898 on: December 08, 2007, 12:30:15 PM »
i dont understand what is so textbook about it. i mean i see no cuts, little seperationa and no striations. on top of that his definition is lacking,quads have no sweep and look smallish. his lats are gigantic, way to big for his arms, and his chest looks like it would at 8 weeks out, no cuts whatsoever.


you have a very skew view of reality, im sorry

Who's reality yours? the reality is Dorian has better balance & proportion and better conditioning and density onto of being complete I backed up my claims with proof from eyewitnesses what have you done? made an ignorant blanket statement thats reality? lol no this is reality kid

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .


notice see references Ronnie and his collection of parts

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


Ronnie's conditioning couldn't touch Dorian thats reality , again you see what you want

Ronnie's front latspread is a collection of some impressive parts , it's incomplete because he has NO calves what so ever , he has a short torso , his arms are to big for the torso , his quads dominate his oil injected undersized calves , his ass can actually been seen from the front , his biceps/triceps dominate his unproportionate forearms , and thats reality? lol

Dorian's front latspread is without equal




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37899 on: December 08, 2007, 12:32:11 PM »
ND, just give it up. Ronnie beats Dorian in every pose except for the side triceps and front latspread.