Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pumpster lives in Harlem? hahahahahahahahahaah

He lives in NYC you know he's not in Manhattan

[NeoSeminole]

No it does mean something because idiots like you don't know what symmetry means in the bodybuilding context

don't change the subject. You said "nothing in nature is perfectly symmetrical." I showed why this comment is meaningless.

you're the idiot who didn't even know that balance & proportion were separate entities I taught you that and how can you use it as an umbrella term when you're ignorant of what it all means? nice try though.

I know what symmetry is, you dumbass. I'm pretty sure everyone knows what symmetry means. You seem to think you hold some special knowledge of bodybuilding b/c you use 3 different words - symmetry, balance, and proportion - while others refer to them collectively as "symmetry."

[NarcissisticDeity]

don't change the subject. You said "nothing in nature is perfectly symmetrical." I showed why this comment is meaningless.

I know what symmetry is, you dumbass. I'm pretty sure everyone knows what symmetry means. You seem to think you hold some special knowledge of bodybuilding b/c you use 3 different words - symmetry, balance, and proportion - while others refer to them collectively as "symmetry."

don't change the subject. You said "nothing in nature is perfectly symmetrical." I showed why this comment is meaningless.

Again the point stands Neo nothing in nature is symmetrical which you once claimed meant left/right exactness and you also claimed thats why Flex was known as the sultan of symmetry 

I know what symmetry is, you dumbass. I'm pretty sure everyone knows what symmetry means. You seem to think you hold some special knowledge of bodybuilding b/c you use 3 different words - symmetry, balance, and proportion - while others refer to them collectively as "symmetry."

NO you did NOT know what symmetry is hence why I had to explain to you that balance & proportion were two separate entities , if you knew what symmetry was you would have know this . It was me who explained this to you and again if you knew what symmetry was you wouldn't have tried a pathetic attempt to claim I have conflicting quotes on symmetry , if you knew what symmetry was there would be no need to question the conflicting quotes  it was mean who posted ( part of ) the definition of symmetry for you

you DID NOT know what symmetry was until I schooled you , just like you thought 2003 was Ronnie's peak showing lol when it comes to competitive bodybuilding Neo you don't know much , same with conditioning & density , same with Ronnie being bigger despite being lighter , same with Dorian's conditioning being a myth , etc , etc

you're not in my league kid , not in competitive bodybuilding .

[Hulkster]

you're not in my league kid , not in competitive bodybuilding .

you sure are an arrogant prick, aren't you?

you once again claim that only you know anything, and that all the people that own you on multiple threads on getbig are all "idiots'

LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you sure are an arrogant prick, aren't you?

you once again claim that only you know anything, and that all the people that own you on multiple threads on getbig are all "idiots'

LOL

 

Not all are idiots a lot are just plain ignorant , you're an idiot , Neo is an idiot , pumpster is an idiot , iceman he's and idiot too , I back up my claims , what have you done? lol deny every person who conflicts with you that makes you and idiot. 

[Hulkster]

back up your claims?

yeah sure, by avoiding visual evidence in sport based purely on such.. you cling to one or two quotes that are contradicted by not only many other quotes, but by tons of visual evidence as well..

 

maybe if you went to school you would understand what the difference is between strong support, weak support..and no real support at all.

since you came back, your support fall into the last catagory..

 

[Hulkster]

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=9710

LOL

ND fears knowledgable fans everywhere..

[NeoSeminole]

Again the point stands Neo nothing in nature is symmetrical which you once claimed meant left/right exactness and you also claimed thats why Flex was known as the sultan of symmetry

no, your point doesn't stand. I've demonstrated why and another intelligent poster agreed with me. You're just repeating yourself in the hopes that others will get tired of debating with you and give up. This is a common tactic used by low-life people who can't win an intelligent debate.

NO you did NOT know what symmetry is hence why I had to explain to you that balance & proportion were two separate entities , if you knew what symmetry was you would have know this . It was me who explained this to you and again if you knew what symmetry was you wouldn't have tried a pathetic attempt to claim I have conflicting quotes on symmetry , if you knew what symmetry was there would be no need to question the conflicting quotes it was mean who posted ( part of ) the definition of symmetry for you

it is you who doesn't know what the f*ck you are talking about. Symmetry is not limited to left-right exactness. I've been using the term in the broad sense to mean the balance and proportion of the physique as a whole.

[NarcissisticDeity]

back up your claims?

yeah sure, by avoiding visual evidence in sport based purely on such.. you cling to one or two quotes that are contradicted by not only many other quotes, but by tons of visual evidence as well..

 

maybe if you went to school you would understand what the difference is between strong support, weak support..and no real support at all.

since you came back, your support fall into the last catagory..

 

Thanks for proving my point you're an idiot  my argument hasn't changed one iota since I came back it's always remained the same , you're just typing that nonsense because I busted you lol now you're fucked and you have to backpeddle to try and save face , we both know I'm smart 

Hulkster this is a prime example of your idiocy , I say Dorian at his best has excellent balance & proportion , in fact better than Ronnie , you say ' no way Ronnie's balance & proportion blows Dorian's out of the water ' I say nonsense , they I post a quote from Bev Francis who happens to be an IFBB judge who would know about the topic at hand , she raves its ' near perfect ' okay now this isn't specific to our debate but she comments on it anyway , then I back up my original claim with the one from Francis and then one from Dorian himself , talking about how people underrate him on on his balance & proportion , man this isn't looking good for you lol now ontop of all that I back up my claim specific to our debate Dorian Yates when asked if he could beat Ronnie on PBW says specifically he has better balance than Ronnie , and again he would know he's also an IFBB judge ! and I post the silhouette which you hate ( for a reason ) all of this is called converging evidence I proved my case and what makes you and idiot is the fact that you can't counter and tell everyone who agrees with my point they're wrong despite never even seeing the two in question live & in person , that makes you an idiot .

see how its done? I just killed two birds with one stone. I proved Yates' has better balance & proportion than Ronnie and you're an idiot. thats how its done Hulkster. try it sometime. 

[SteelePegasus]

I like women , I just don't like women with excess body fat  I like this type 

you don't like women...didn't you throw out some pictures of your last girlfriend out of frustration?

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, your point doesn't stand. I've demonstrated why and another intelligent poster agreed with me. You're just repeating yourself in the hopes that others will get tired of debating with you and give up. This is a common tactic used by low-life people who can't win an intelligent debate.

it is you who doesn't know what the f*ck you are talking about. Symmetry is not limited to left-right exactness. I've been using the term in the broad sense to mean the balance and proportion of the physique as a whole.

no, your point doesn't stand. I've demonstrated why and another intelligent poster agreed with me. You're just repeating yourself in the hopes that others will get tired of debating with you and give up. This is a common tactic used by low-life people who can't win an intelligent debate.

no my point does stand you claimed originally symmetry meant specifically left/right exactness and nothing in nature is truly symmetrical so on a base level your assessment is wrong especially in the many contexts of professional bodybuilding and anyone who agrees with you on symmetry isn't intelligent they're just as ignorant as you

it is you who doesn't know what the f*ck you are talking about. Symmetry is not limited to left-right exactness. I've been using the term in the broad sense to mean the balance and proportion of the physique as a whole.

You think denial changes the FACT I taught YOU what symmetry is and isn't , not kidding symmetry isn't limited to left/right exactness old news sport I preached this to you eons ago , and now you're forced to amend your claim to ' I've been using the term in the broad sense ' now you have to because I crushed your stupidity , again Neoseminole didn't teach me what symmetry is and isn't , I taught you . you didn't even know that balance & proportion were two separate entities . I DID I explain this to you , you specifically stated Flex Wheeler was know as the Sultan of Symmetry because his left & right sides matched LMFAO what an ignoramus then I crushed that opinion and posted part of the definition to the word symmetry and you thought you struck Gold and claimed I made the quote up LMFAO and then when I crushed that you clung to well they're conflicting and once again NaricissisticDeity explained to YOU that they weren't and explained to YOU exactly WHY

I know what symmetry is in professional bodybuilding , you didn't I explained this to you , being ignorant is okay but what makes you stupid is thinking you know what you're talking about and when you are corrected you keep on posting away .

You're not in my league when it comes to professional bodybuilding this is a proven fact.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you don't like women...didn't you throw out some pictures of your last girlfriend out of frustration?

Didn't throw them out , they were on my old PC and I deleted them , kind of disrespectful to the new girl and again you keep on insisting I don't like women I've explained to you this isn't true , perhaps what you're doing is projecting here 

[NarcissisticDeity]

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=9710

LOL

ND fears knowledgable fans everywhere..

NO I don't 

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

[Camel Jockey]

ND, what's your nationality?

I assume you're dutch.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, what's your nationality?

I assume you're dutch.

I'm American I was born in the United States of America !!

[Camel Jockey]

I'm American I was born in the United States of America !!

oh okay.

You're still a jackass.

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh okay.

You're still a jackass.

I maybe but I'm still a correct jackass !

[Hulkster]

Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie

how ironic that ND loves a quote that contains an opinion that totally goes against what he has been arguing..LOL

see how selective he is about what quotes he chooses to acknowledge and which ones he igonres?

Lee says ronnie would win - ND loves it.

Lee says dorian was not as symmetrical - ND quietly ignores this part LOL

 

ps ND, your emails worked - muscletime finally changed the 95 olympia covershot to one of dorian..

and they used the infamous lat spread that was made fun of for dozens of posts!

hahahahahahahhahaahahaha hahaha!

 

[Necrosis]

i love how on the other site dorian is being owned in the voting badly, and people are saying he is not even in ronnies league. its obvious he is not, lol.


nd just keeps repeating the same arguments regardless of points made by others, and regardless if he is proven wrong. like i said, the guy is an idiot and this thread should be locked. the argument is clearly over, other sites show ronnie is way ahead, the arguments made by nd are lame, and he just repeats the same non sense over and over.

[suckmymuscle]

Blah Blah Blah

Admit defeat when I've proved my point with many pics? LOL. What you want a quote now? LOL. You nuthuggers asked for a pic of yates standing straight wit hloose skin and we showed you. What more do you want? I've proved my point with many pics as well as others. What have you done? My point has been proven. It's you who can't prove he doesn't have loose skin hanging. Looks like pics aren't proof and you want a quote, LOL 

  Pay attention, moron. In this pic you posted, Dorian is arching his back slightly. He is not standing straight. His back is bein g pushed backwards. Nice try, but you did not accomplish anything.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

i love how on the other site dorian is being owned in the voting badly, and people are saying he is not even in ronnies league. its obvious he is not, lol.


nd just keeps repeating the same arguments regardless of points made by others, and regardless if he is proven wrong. like i said, the guy is an idiot and this thread should be locked. the argument is clearly over, other sites show ronnie is way ahead, the arguments made by nd are lame, and he just repeats the same non sense over and over.

  The last time I checked, those people who voted are not I.F.B.B judges and not exactly knowledgeable about how bodybuilding is judged. The average bodybuilding fan has an I.Q of 90 and has never judged a bodybuilding contest, and yet you think that pol results mean anything?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

the last time I checked, a judging panel consisting of Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles could see that dorian at his best does not come close to Ronnie 99.

[Hulkster]

 you don't need a "high IQ" to appeciate how badly dorian is getting killed:

ps where did you get the IQ stat sucky?

cite please.

 

[Necrosis]

  The last time I checked, those people who voted are not I.F.B.B judges and not exactly knowledgeable about how bodybuilding is judged. The average bodybuilding fan has an I.Q of 90 and has never judged a bodybuilding contest, and yet you think that pol results mean anything?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

if your argument is that popular opinion among fans means nothing then i disagree, because that immediately negates the dorian fanbase too. so with all things being equal, more people in the bodybuilding community think ronnie is better. when alot of people are saying its not even close it is alarming. i would also say that a normal iq is all thats needed to see the obvious. dorian has mediocre arms, chest, delts, and quads. ronnie has some of the best bodyparts ever arguable. his arms are the best i beleive, his quads can be argued, his chest is huge and striated, glutes are obviously the best, hams may be also, and then there is the back. i know i making generalized statements, but i cant see how anyone could argue dorian would have won, things progress, ronnie took it to another level.

[suckmymuscle]

if your argument is that popular opinion among fans means nothing then i disagree, because that immediately negates the dorian fanbase too. so with all things being equal, more people in the bodybuilding community think ronnie is better. when alot of people are saying its not even close it is alarming. i would also say that a normal iq is all thats needed to see the obvious. dorian has mediocre arms, chest, delts, and quads. ronnie has some of the best bodyparts ever arguable. his arms are the best i beleive, his quads can be argued, his chest is huge and striated, glutes are obviously the best, hams may be also, and then there is the back. i know i making generalized statements, but i cant see how anyone could argue dorian would have won, things progress, ronnie took it to another level.

  The difference is that I'm not basing my argument on my opinion, but on how the I.F.B.B judges would rule between Dorian and Ronnie in their primes. I believe that Dorian would win based on the fact that Dorian at his best is just as big as Ronnie, has superior conditioning and less lacking muscles and structure. It becomes almost mathematical how Dorian would defeat Ronnie. As for arguing that Ronnie would win due to superior aesthetics, consider that aesthetics is subjective and Nasser has defeated Shawn Ray despite the latter having better aesthetics.

SUCKMYMUSCLE