Author Topic: Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce  (Read 3557325 times)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38775 on: December 16, 2007, 06:36:09 PM »
ur right in the fact that in some shots, dorian had a razor sharp xmas tree and skin-free erectors. but in others, he had (what appear to be) rolls of loose skin on his lower back, for whatever reason. just take a look.

Its wrinkles and nothing more again in the same area any fat , loose skin or whatever would obscure this razor sharpness , no way does loose skin become magically super tight and striated from one pose to the next .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38776 on: December 16, 2007, 06:37:32 PM »
This should end all speculation here.

Look at this rear lat spread....NO loose skin because Dorian is more erect in posture. When he leans back as he typically does, the skin bunches and folds. This isn't a hard concept  :-\ 


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38777 on: December 16, 2007, 06:40:58 PM »
Its wrinkles and nothing more again in the same area any fat , loose skin or whatever would obscure this razor sharpness , no way does loose skin become magically super tight and striated from one pose to the next .

wrinkles = loose skin. this is about appearance, and in that shot, dorian appears to have loose skin/wrinkles (as england said) due to the way he is posing. thats not anyones fault but dorians for posing in that style and shouldnt be shrugged off. u can only judge what u see.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38778 on: December 16, 2007, 06:42:46 PM »
wrinkles = loose skin. this is about appearance, and in that shot, dorian appears to have loose skin/wrinkles (as england said) due to the way he is posing. thats not anyones fault but dorians for posing in that style and shouldnt be shrugged off. u can only judge what u see.

No sorry , loose skin doesn't magically become tight as drum from one pose to the next , its wrinkles just like the ones on his triceps in the rear latspread shot

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38779 on: December 16, 2007, 06:46:43 PM »
what i mean by loose skin is simply that - loose skin. i dont mean the skin that fat ppl get after they diet down, which is what u think i mean. i know its not that.

the loose skin blurs the view to dorians spinal erectors, which are clear in the other shots that u posted.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38780 on: December 16, 2007, 07:08:24 PM »
what i mean by loose skin is simply that - loose skin. i dont mean the skin that fat ppl get after they diet down, which is what u think i mean. i know its not that.

the loose skin blurs the view to dorians spinal erectors, which are clear in the other shots that u posted.

you see nd is trying to argue that the medial to lateral folds are not loose skin but wrinkles of skin. what i dont understand is how are loose skin and wrinkles different, they still detract from the pose and cover up a muscle group, namely the inferior portion of the erectors.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38781 on: December 16, 2007, 07:37:20 PM »
Ok, after revisiting this thread after about a year and a half, I need to make a few observations.

The funny thing about this thread is that it has pretty much become a complete guide on how to critique the competitive body building physique.  At first, the thread started out as opinions based mostly on observations and maybe some facts, but without a coherent organization of the criteria for which to actually judge the physique. (I think ND was the closest though there were a few others who seemed to have a good eye)  But after a while, through the stupidity of Hulkster and many others, a definitive collection of criteria was required in order to, in the simplest way possible, correct Hulkster's discordant (Woo thesaurus) and ignorant opinions. Once achieved, the thread lost its redundancy (yates is better, NO COLEMAN IS) and became more of a grave yard for pro Coleman arguments.

Well done, now all we need is for someone to organize all this into a book. Man, its probably been over two years since this thread began. God damn. well, to quote Cartman, "I love you guys"

Go yates.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38782 on: December 16, 2007, 07:43:20 PM »
what a powerful physique, just incredible.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38783 on: December 16, 2007, 08:28:29 PM »
This must be the 27th time you've posted this exact statement in this thread  :-X

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Guys, please respond to my assertion that Ronnie is better than Dorian.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38784 on: December 16, 2007, 08:35:05 PM »
Any loose skin , any fat any hanging skin would be plainly evident in these shots period.

it doesn't matter if its not visible in that pose.

its visible in all the rear lat spread shots, and that is all that matters, genius.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38785 on: December 16, 2007, 08:36:49 PM »
Ok, after revisiting this thread after about a year and a half, I need to make a few observations.

The funny thing about this thread is that it has pretty much become a complete guide on how to critique the competitive body building physique.  At first, the thread started out as opinions based mostly on observations and maybe some facts, but without a coherent organization of the criteria for which to actually judge the physique. (I think ND was the closest though there were a few others who seemed to have a good eye)  But after a while, through the stupidity of Hulkster and many others, a definitive collection of criteria was required in order to, in the simplest way possible, correct Hulkster's discordant (Woo thesaurus) and ignorant opinions. Once achieved, the thread lost its redundancy (yates is better, NO COLEMAN IS) and became more of a grave yard for pro Coleman arguments.

Well done, now all we need is for someone to organize all this into a book. Man, its probably been over two years since this thread began. God damn. well, to quote Cartman, "I love you guys"

Go yates.



how incredibly stupid.

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So, ND's avoidance of all things visual (because they almost all favor ronnie by a wide margin), and sole reliance on quotes that are not only contradicted, but not even supported by the visual evidence in the first place is a "guide to physique evaluation"?

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Holy shit I am glad you are not a judge.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38786 on: December 16, 2007, 08:37:55 PM »
what a powerful physique, just incredible.

dorian had great abs. and calves.

but compared to Ronnie, that is just about where it ended... :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38787 on: December 16, 2007, 08:44:37 PM »
I find the delusion of LyricTenor to be astounding.

given that the dorian side can't even use visual shots anymore for most of their arguments because dorian loses so clearly and badly, and yet he claims that this thread is a 'graveyard for pro coleman arguments"

lol

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guess what LT - the pro dorian argument's ended a long time ago. actually, they ended beginning on page 487 when the 99 Ronnie and 93 dorian stuff was posted.

since then it has been 1000+ pages of excuses for why none of that matters lol

ronnie was so much better, its all they can do:

try to ignore the visuals in a visual sport because they show what everyone is saying:

that its not even close:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38788 on: December 16, 2007, 08:45:51 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38789 on: December 16, 2007, 08:48:07 PM »
Hey isn't that a screencap that someone turned black & white? lol more photoshopped pics I see? lol when will you learn?

That's an original pic that I posted. I never ever posted photoshopped pics. Get your facts straight.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38790 on: December 16, 2007, 08:50:02 PM »
That's an original pic that I posted. I never ever posted photoshopped pics. Get your facts straight.

ND has no facts.

only excuses.


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like I said, every shot of coleman is now all of a sudden 'photoshopped' according to him because they all beat dorian easily.. ::)

he is so fucking pathetic.. :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38791 on: December 16, 2007, 08:52:00 PM »
That's an original pic that I posted. I never ever posted photoshopped pics. Get your facts straight.

ND, I am waiting for your pathetic apology, oh Desperate One.

you really need to stop this 'everything is photoshopped" bullshit.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38792 on: December 16, 2007, 09:06:46 PM »
I found this image posted on a forum completely unrelated to bb, lol.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38793 on: December 16, 2007, 09:07:44 PM »
not at all surprising.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38794 on: December 16, 2007, 09:11:08 PM »
this bitch has more cuts in her arms than doughian

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38795 on: December 16, 2007, 09:11:50 PM »
this is borderline g4p, ronnie the great has never stooped this low

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38796 on: December 16, 2007, 09:19:35 PM »
this is borderline g4p, ronnie the great has never stooped this low

how is that borderline g4p?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38797 on: December 16, 2007, 09:23:15 PM »
how is that borderline g4p?

hes bent over on a rock, giving a provacative look to the camera with one eyebrow raised, as if inviting some fag to come give him a hot beef injection.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38798 on: December 16, 2007, 09:41:46 PM »
ND has this limited edition poster of Dorian above his bed. Gaaaayyy


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38799 on: December 16, 2007, 10:03:33 PM »
hes bent over on a rock, giving a provacative look to the camera with one eyebrow raised, as if inviting some fag to come give him a hot beef injection.
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