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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5650 on: July 07, 2006, 09:36:30 AM »
Quote from: pumpster on July 07, 2006, 09:33:53 AM
Like a robot, posting backstage, unposed shots. Very predictable..

Now for some on-stage, contest, tensed shots..Tier-B baby!

Right from the begining of his career he was nothing but A-list and Coleman was a backpacker  ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5651 on: July 07, 2006, 09:37:50 AM »
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Right from the begining of his career he was nothing but A-list and Coleman was a backpacker

Well if ND makes yet another unsubstantiated claim it must be true! ::) ::) ::)

He reeks of tier-B!
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5652 on: July 07, 2006, 09:41:39 AM »
Quote from: pumpster on July 07, 2006, 09:37:50 AM
Well if ND makes yet another unsubstantiated claim it must be true! ::) ::) ::)


Muscle Memory is your friend .

1990

Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd


1991

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd


1992

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1993

Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1994

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1995

Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1996

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1997

Olympia - IFBB, Winner


Substanciated and you are OWNED any questions?  ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5653 on: July 07, 2006, 09:43:30 AM »
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Muscle Memory is your friend .

1990

Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd


1991

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd


1992

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1993

Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1994

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1995

Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1996

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Winner


1997

Olympia - IFBB, Winner


Substanciated and you are OWNED any questions?



Why didn't you mention this earlier? All this continuing obsession on numbers and what we alread know could've prevented this whole thread!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5654 on: July 07, 2006, 09:46:18 AM »
Quote from: pumpster on July 07, 2006, 09:43:30 AM


Why didn't you mention this earlier? All this continuing obsession on numbers and what we alread know could've prevented this whole thread!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)



You said my claims were unsubstanciated , I substanciated them you can't argue with facts or history I know neither mean anything to a Coleman fan ( unless they work in your favor  ;) ) but your dumbass is OWNED  ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5655 on: July 07, 2006, 10:38:39 AM »
Hey ND after Dorian who's the next best bodybuilder 1992 and up in your opinion?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5656 on: July 07, 2006, 10:39:04 AM »
I wonder how many kids has seen Dorian(contest mode) directly....
I have seen him at least twice in his best condition and..sorry...But In front of Ronnie... :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5657 on: July 07, 2006, 10:43:50 AM »
Quote from: FREAKgeek on July 07, 2006, 10:38:39 AM
Hey ND after Dorian who's the next best bodybuilder 1992 and up in your opinion?

I think Flex was above and beyond Dorian , I feel his conditioning at the 93 ASC could beat any version of Dorian , just think if Flex never got into the car accident in 93 and showed up at the 94 Olympia with Yates looking the way did , you'd have a new Mr Olympia.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5658 on: July 07, 2006, 10:56:09 AM »
Quote from: Matt C on July 07, 2006, 10:52:02 AM
I'm pre-gut Ronnie and I approve this message.

This message is Dorian Yates approved .
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5659 on: July 07, 2006, 11:02:00 AM »
Quote from: Matt C on July 07, 2006, 10:59:49 AM
Whoa settle down slick lol, I wouldn't be so sure that Dorian would approve that Flex deserved to beat him.

He said Flex was the only one who could give him trouble , no one else had a legitmate chance .
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5660 on: July 07, 2006, 11:07:35 AM »
I thought he said that about Paul Dillet.
Damn rumors
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5661 on: July 07, 2006, 11:08:37 AM »
The Ninjas had a legitimate chance
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5662 on: July 07, 2006, 11:19:00 AM »
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Yes I remember reading that in FLEX in 2001 or 2002.  I don't agree with that statement though.  Had any number of top pros from his era showed up with Dorian's hardness I think they could have won.

His arms were not even top six material.

Probably the most fundamental thing separating this guy from one of the greats-17" arms on the torso of someone 245 lb. looks ridiculous.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5663 on: July 07, 2006, 11:27:21 AM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 07, 2006, 10:43:50 AM
I think Flex was above and beyond Dorian , I feel his conditioning at the 93 ASC could beat any version of Dorian , just think if Flex never got into the car accident in 93 and showed up at the 94 Olympia with Yates looking the way did , you'd have a new Mr Olympia.

  I agree with you that Flex, at the 1993 ASC, deserved to beat any version of Dorian; one of the top five greatest physiues of all time. But in the way he showed up for that year's Olympia? No. I also think Dorian deserved to win in 1997, even though he was at his worst. All things considered, I think that all of his Olympias were earned. I make two exception for that. First, I think that Levrone was at his all-time best in 1995 and looked fantastic. Unfortunately for him, Dorian was super-tight, with almost perfect balance from head to toe. In 1996, Shawn Ray looked fantastic, too. But Dorian had so many strengh over him, in muscularity, skeletal balance, hardness, etc, that I still think Dorian was a deserving champ.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5664 on: July 07, 2006, 12:36:31 PM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 07, 2006, 05:24:44 AM
When are you going to get it through your head that Dorian's waist isn't as small as Ronnies so therefore its not scaled correctly .

Wow, you are a dumbass. Dorian in '93 had a small waist. Here are more pics from the contest.







He is an inch shorter than Ronnie. If his waist is the same size as Ronnie's, then it means Dorian's waist is proportionately larger. Ronnie also has a better x-frame which creates the illusion his waist is much smaller than it really is. So it's not farfetched to believe Dorian in '93 had the same size waist as Ronnie in '98/99. I find it amusing that you are arguing the comparison is not accurate b/c Dorian's waist should be wider.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5665 on: July 07, 2006, 12:50:02 PM »
Quote from: NeoSeminole on July 07, 2006, 12:36:31 PM
Wow, you are a dumbass. Dorian in '93 had a small waist. Here are more pics from the contest.



He is an inch shorter than Ronnie. If his waist is the same size as Ronnie's, then it means Dorian's waist is proportionately larger. Ronnie also has a better x-frame which creates the illusion his waist is much smaller than it really is. So it's not farfetched to believe Dorian in '93 had the same size waist as Ronnie in '98/99. I find it amusing that you are arguing the comparison is not accurate b/c Dorian's waist should be wider.

Jackass you're showing me MY PICTURES I scanned those and Dorian's waist may have been small for Dorian but his waist was NEVER as small as Ronnie this is a fact plain & simple , to say his waist was the same size as Ronnie 98/99 shows your ignorance .

Dorian was lucky if he had a waist this small at 228lbs nevermind 250lbs .
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5666 on: July 07, 2006, 12:52:11 PM »
Quote from: pumpster on July 07, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
Probably the most fundamental thing separating this guy from one of the greats-17" arms on the torso of someone 245 lb. looks ridiculous.

Back to posting your same nonsense? lol you got your ass kicked and now you're running scared , and hey pumpster how does Ronnie compensate size wise for his gut dispite being 15lbs lighter again ? you never answered that.  ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5667 on: July 07, 2006, 01:59:19 PM »
Maybe now ND will be happy



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5668 on: July 07, 2006, 02:05:44 PM »
Yates' lack of taper is striking once again in that last pic. The most striking thing about Yates continues to be how ordinary he is... :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5669 on: July 07, 2006, 02:14:58 PM »
Quote from: NeoSeminole on July 07, 2006, 01:59:19 PM
Maybe now ND will be happy



 ;D ;D ;D
Epic abdominal photoshoppage ;D
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5670 on: July 07, 2006, 02:23:54 PM »
Again Yates' most striking attribute is his ordinariness..as in blah!
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5671 on: July 07, 2006, 02:36:05 PM »
Ronnie hasn't had to beat any good competition since becoming Mr. Olympia.  His toughest opponent has been Jay Cutler.  Dorian competed in the best era in bodybuilding history and dominated everyone.  Ronnie has had a few close calls at the O, and even lost to Gunter in the SOS.  Dorian would pick Ronnie apart in the mandatories and it would be game over, just as it was every time they competed against each other.  If Manion (or Demilia) ever show up on PBBW, maybe Dan & Bob can ask their opinion on this debate. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5672 on: July 07, 2006, 02:47:20 PM »
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Ronnie hasn't had to beat any good competition since becoming Mr. Olympia.  His toughest opponent has been Jay Cutler.  Dorian competed in the best era in bodybuilding history and dominated everyone.

Who they've competed against would matter more if the judging and commercial interests of the IFBB didn't compromise contest results. Given that reality, your premise is void. Actually it works the other way-one can easily look at comparisons and see Dillet, Lavrone & Wheeler deserving of victories on an uncompromised playing field.

I don't care how bad Dillet's back is claimed in the usual stock excuse as to why Yates could be completely dominated on the more important frontal shots and still win. It's inexplicable and of course unquestioned by IFBB/Flex/Iron Age clones.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5673 on: July 07, 2006, 02:53:53 PM »
Quote from: pumpster on July 07, 2006, 02:47:20 PM
Who they've competed against would matter more if the judging and commercial interests of the IFBB didn't compromise contest results. Given that reality, your premise is void. Actually it works the other way-one can easily look at comparisons and see Dillet, Lavrone & Wheeler deserving of victories on an uncompromised playing field.

I don't care how bad Dillet's back is claimed in the usual stock excuse as to why Yates could be completely dominated on the more important frontal shots and still win. It's inexplicable and of course unquestioned by IFBB/Flex/Iron Age clones.

The only thing I don't understand...
You dont care how bad Dillet's back is...
BUT - That is a huge chunk of the mandatories... You cant give someone a win who is missing a WHOLE chunk of his physique..... I don't understand that logic....
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5674 on: July 07, 2006, 02:58:53 PM »
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That is a huge chunk of the mandatories... You cant give someone a win who is missing a WHOLE chunk of his physique.....

No doubt his back was lacking! But why can't you acknowledge the equally glaring domination the other way from the front? From the front, Dillet dominates the way Coleman would've. And let's face it-front shots are the most important of all. In a serious contest that would've left them basically tied or Dillet slightly ahead.

This is the reality vs. what ND or Flex will tell you.
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