Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Yates is clearly more balanced and complete in the side tri.

Yates has horrid aesthetics and the side tris are quite comparable as ND's pics confirm. On any other tri shot than side-tri, Yates is wiped out because of his deficiencies, so keep posting those side-tri shots.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yates has horrid aesthetics and the side tris are quite comparable as ND's pics confirm. On any other tri shot than side-tri, Yates is wiped out because of his deficiencies, so keep posting those side-tri shots.

There is NO way in hell Ronnie in the picture you posted meets the criteria better than Dorian .

6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

[pobrecito]

Yates has horrid aesthetics and the side tris are quite comparable as ND's pics confirm. On any other tri shot than side-tri, Yates is wiped out because of his deficiencies, so keep posting those side-tri shots.

this is the whole reason this pitiful thread is 295 pages. Morons like you can't concede that Yates beats Ronnie in this pose, whereas others can't concede Ronnie wins other poses. And no, I don't favor Yates. My ideal is Ronnie's 1996 shape as seen in the BFTO tape.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie 98 vs. Dorian precontest 93 vs. Ronnie 2003

Interesting..

[pumpster]

Morons like you can't concede that Yates beats Ronnie in this pose

You have a 3rd grade level of comprehension, because I've never said that Coleman wins that pose you idiot-all it takes is for him to be in the ballpark given that this is supposed to be one of Yates "best" shots yet here's Coleman quite comparable.

Your striking laziness in not understanding this previously matches your dumbness.

[Hulkster]

some new Ronnie pics (at least I have never seen these before and I have seen em all )



puts an end to the whole Ronnie vs. dorian chest debate, doesn't it?


this pic is just CRAZY (we have all seen this one before, but the images I have seen on the web up until this point were darkened significantly)

[pobrecito]

This shot looks much more impressive on the 99 video...

[NeoSeminole]

Front Double Biceps



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Front Lat Spread



Tie

Side Triceps



Dorian >>> Ronnie

Side Chest



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Rear Double Biceps



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Rear Lat Spread



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Abs and Thighs



Dorian >>> Ronnie

Most Muscular



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Dorian: 2
Ronnie: 5

[jandal.ninja]

Front Double Biceps



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Front Lat Spread



Tie

Side Triceps



Dorian >>> Ronnie

Side Chest



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Rear Double Biceps



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Rear Lat Spread



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Abs and Thighs



Dorian >>> Ronnie

Most Muscular



Ronnie >>> Dorian

Dorian: 2
Ronnie: 5

with this photo comparison - i have to concur with these results - (anyone else want to throw down a photo comparison?)

[Hulkster]

anyone who knows how to judge a modern bodybuilding contest would also concur with the results.

Ronnie >> Dorian

[NarcissisticDeity]

anyone who knows how to judge a modern bodybuilding contest would also concur with the results.

Ronnie >> Dorian

Well we know that ain't you !! Ronnie beats Dorian in ths Mr-X-frame competition and the Mr-Gyno-Olympia but in reality Ronnie loses most of the mandatories . Ronnie 98/99 isn't beating Dorian with bitch-tits sorry sport .

[Hulkster]

Well we know that ain't you !! Ronnie beats Dorian in ths Mr-X-frame competition and the Mr-Gyno-Olympia but in reality Ronnie loses most of the mandatories . Ronnie 98/99 isn't beating Dorian with bitch-tits sorry sport .

sorry, but bitch tits, like calves, do not override all the other inferior aspects of Dorian when compared to Ronnie.

when someone has superior taper, shape, vascularity, detail, arms, quads, chest, hams, glutes back and delts, they aren't going to lose because they have a bit of gyno.

at least, not on this planet.

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry, but bitch tits, like calves, do not override all the other inferior aspects of Dorian when compared to Ronnie.

when someone has superior taper, shape, vascularity, detail, arms, quads, chest, hams, glutes back and delts, they aren't going to lose because they have a bit of gyno.

at least, not on this planet.

Again you can't make shit up as you go along ! this again spotlights your ignorance of IFBB judging . the lenghts you go to make excuses for Ronnie is sad lol a ' bit of gyno '  like Coloumu in 81 he should have lost just based on that but he comes back with in 99 lol and Ronnie would lose because he can't hold a candle to Dorian in the side chest , side triceps , ab-thigh , front & rear latspreads , and while he could have won the front double bicep this would showcase his BITCH-TITS and the back double biceps is debateable oh waits Ronnie doesn't have any calves .

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL and this is ' pre-gut ' Ronnie with bitch-tits what a joke .

[Hulkster]

so lets see - ND can't win using pics, videos etc.

so he has to say that ronnie would lose not based on the merits of his superior physique, but because of gyno.

add another one to the list...

besides, ronnie in 99 had far less visible gyno than he did in 98.

[NarcissisticDeity]

so lets see - ND can't win using pics, videos etc.

so he has to say that ronnie would lose not based on the merits of his superior physique, but because of gyno.

add another one to the list...

besides, ronnie in 99 had far less visible gyno than he did in 98.

What part of he would win by viture of outright owning more mandatories than Ronnie didn't you comprehend ?  oh thats right you have a comprehension problems with the judging criteria with facts with history lol

99 his gyno is still very noticable and still pathetic for a Mr Olympia winner . the fact that you find it accpetable and minor shows how far into hero-worship and delusion

Dorian would win by virtue of muscle density , muscle balance & proportion , superior conditioning and his out mastery of the mandatory poses in which he would win more for the above mentioned , in 98 he would have the edge of musclar bulk too boot !! in 99 that edge would be moot but his conditioning isn't as good so no matter what year you pick Dorian has edges Ronnie doesn't minus the bitch-tits .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Oh yes it barely noticable in 99       

[nicorulez]

ND, come on man...play fair.  You are now stating that Dorian in 1998 (assuming he was no better than his 1997 condition) would deserve to beat Ronnie.  Yes, Ronnie's gyno is noticeable but how about Dorian's torn bicep, tricep and quad.  Moreover, Dorian's increased weight was secondary to him going overboard and having a huge distended gut and sub-par conditioning (for him).  In his latter years, he lacked the vascularity and symmetry needed to be a dominating Mr. Olympia.  Ronnie would easily take the rear lat spread, rear double bicep, front double bicep and side chest.  In the side chest in particular, Ronnie has superior arms, shoulders, chest thickness and his hams and thighs show detail that Dorian never showed.  The only year Yates looked dominating in this pose was 1993.  He was on that year.  Now, if you are talking about a 1993 Yates taking on a 1998/1999 Ronnie; I agree it would be a good show.  However, for me or you to pick the winner based on mandatories from pics is kind of ridiculous.  Neither has ever seen the two in peak shape side by side in person.  I believe only a trained, impartial IFBB judge who had a front row seat could make a legit claim of who is better.  Even then, it would be a close show.

[pobrecito]

fuck, just watched Dorian's posing routine from the 93O for the first time. His skin looked so dry like fucking leather .....his conditioning here was much drier than what I saw on the 99 video of Ronnie on youtube. With that being said, Ronnie destroys Dorian on overall shape, but I think it would be an incredibly close battle.

[nicorulez]

Pobrecito, that is what I believe.  Dorian in 1993 was peeled like a frickin onion.  He had good balance and taper, also.  However, Ronnie has him in shape, size and muscle fullness.  However, Ronnie, although more vascular, is not as dry.  In 2003, Ronnie may have had a little gut but he was shredded also.  This shot below is the most impressive bodybuilding shot I have ever seen.  He is insane here.   Also, look at his forearms.  They are far from small and have excellent size and shape.

[pumpster]

Quote from: Hulkster on Today at 10:09:39 AM
anyone who knows how to judge a modern bodybuilding contest would also concur with the results.

Ronnie >> Dorian

Well we know that ain't you !!

ND delusion has grown to the extent that he now knows better than anyone else in getbig. Getbig poll: Coleman >> Yates.

[pumpster]

f**k, just watched Dorian's posing routine from the 93O for the first time. His skin looked so dry like fucking leather .....his conditioning here was much drier than what I saw on the 99 video of Ronnie on youtube.

We already know his conditioning was exceptional, that's been said from about page 5 onwards. The problem, which you've ignored in your bias, is that on almost every other basis he's not in the same ballpark-size, taper, shape, aesthetics, cuts, vascularity, etc.

[pobrecito]

We already know his conditioning was exceptional, that's been said from about page 5 onwards. The problem, which you've ignored in your bias, is that on almost every other basis he's not in the same ballpark-size, taper, shape, aesthetics, cuts, vascularity, etc.

Ronnie at his best in '99 was 257, same as Dorian. With Dorian being an inch shorter, that would make Dorian the more muscular man ...now, in regards to your other criteria, well, I can't judge that, it's up to the judges.

[pobrecito]

A couple other comments about the 93O:

1) Ferrigno's calf's looked absolutely hilarious...similar to canteloupes
2) Levrone got fucked. He should have been third.
3) Shawn Ray looked like a little child standing next to Yates and Flex and did not deserve 3rd

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND delusion has grown to the extent that he now knows better than anyone else in getbig. Getbig poll: Coleman >> Yates.

Typical hypocritical pumpster/Hulkster position. I don't presume to know better than anyone else and the reason I say you're hypocritical because its YOU and your biased delusional-superfans who laugh at the idea of even comparing Dorian to Ronnie , who all claim the easiest of victories for Ronnie . I have personally said that if the two met at their respective primes it would be close and NEITHER dominating the other. so that statement alone shows I don't presume to know it all or are biased like you and Hulkster.