Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Back Lat Spread (see Figure 5)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
place his hands on his waist with his elbows kept wide,
one foot back and resting on the toes. He will then
contract the latissimus dorsi as wide as possible and
display a calf contraction by pressing downward on the
rear toes. The competitor should make an effort to
display the opposite calf to that which was displayed
during the back double biceps pose so the the judge may
assess both calf muscle equally. It shall be strictly
forbidden for the competitor to pull up on the posing
trunks so as to show the gluteus maximus muscles.
The judge will look for a good spread of the latissimus
dorsi, but also for good muscle density and will again
conclude with the head-to-foot survey.

[NarcissisticDeity]

6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles.
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

[NarcissisticDeity]

3. Side Chest (see Figure 3)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose, in
order to display the “better” arm. He will stand with his
left or right side towards the judges and will bend the arm
nearest the judges to a right-angle position, with the fist
clenched and, with the other hand, will grasp the wrist.
The leg nearest the judges will be bent at the knee and
will rest on the toes. The competitor will then expand the
chest and by upward pressure of the front bent arm and
contract the biceps as much as possible. He will also
contract the thigh muscles, in particular, the biceps
femoris group, and by downward pressure on his toes,
will display the contracted calf muscles.
The judge will pay particular attention to the pectoral
muscles and the arch of the rib cage, the biceps, the leg
biceps and the calves, and will conclude with the head-tofoot
examination. In this pose the judge will be able to
survey the thigh and calf muscles in profile, which will
help in grading their comparative development more
accurately.

[pumpster]

Coleman not far off on lateral & medial cuts, but overwhelms on both triceps AND biceps size:

[NarcissisticDeity]

Coleman close on lateral & medial cuts, but with far more size:

lol you forgot that they're also looking for calves  and while is triceps may have more size his shot as a whole cannout compete with Dorians.

[pumpster]

We get it-call for a truce when Yates' advantages are nothing more than calves, density & "graniness"...

Coleman's way ahead on triceps size and not far off in cuts = advantage. A judge would understand what you don't-cuts on parts of a muscle is only part of the equation..DUH!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Front Double Biceps (see Figure 1)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet
in-line and a short distance apart, the competitor will raise
both arms to shoulder level and bend them at the elbows.
The hands should be clenched and turned down so as to
cause a contraction of the biceps and forearm muscles,
which are the main muscle groups that are to be assessed
in this pose. In addition, the competitor should attempt
to contract as many other muscles as possible as the
judges will be surveying the whole physique, from head to
toe.

The judge will first survey the biceps muscles looking for a
full, peaked development of the muscle, noting whether
or not there is a defined split between the anterior and
posterior sections of the biceps, and will continue the
head-to-toe survey by observing the development of the
forearms, deltoids, pectorals, pec-delt tie-ins, abdominals,
thighs, and calves. The judge will also look for muscle
density, definition, and overall balance.

While Ronnie certainly edges out Dorian in the biceps he still is missing calves and Dorian has the edge on forearms ( another minor muscle as you guys put it ) and OVERALL BALANCE !!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.


While Ronnie is comparable in the back he loses based on calves and overall balance and oh don't forget density and dryness .

[pumpster]

Overall balance isn't happening with those arms & blocky waist.

Balance is great IF the muscles are exceptional; overall blah shape & size don't make for balance that is worth much.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Abdominals and Thighs (see Figure 7)
Standing face front to the judges, the competitor will
place both arms behind the head and will place one leg
forward. He will then contract the abdominal muscles by
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“crunching” the trunk slightly forward. At the same time,
he will contract the thigh muscles of the forward leg.
The judge will survey the abdominal and thigh muscles,
and then conclude with the head-to-foot examination.

I wonder if they'll be looking for calves in this pose too? 

[MB]

Contests are won and lost in pre-judging, when the competitors are compared against each other.  You have to win the mandatory poses.  Ronnie has always struggled with his posing.  Dorian was a master of the mandatories.  With his size, density, and balance, he would win nearly every mandatory pose against Ronnie.  I would give the most muscular to Ronnie (which wasn't a mandatory pose when Dorian competed), but that's about it.  As cartoonish and freaky as Ronnie can look, he would be picked apart by Dorian when comparing mandatories.    

[pumpster]

I would give the most muscular to Ronnie (which wasn't a mandatory pose when Dorian competed), but that's about it.

Right there you've discredited your entire perspective. MM comparison's an almost farcical contrast thanks to Yates' numerous deficiencies. "Giving him" the MM illuminates your bias.

[jandal.ninja]

(another random comment from some guy who posted on here 100 or so pages ago)

i reckon to settle the score for you - dorian and ronnie should go at it in the ring - freestyle whatever.
4 rounds - no protective gear, just gloves and beat the sh!t out of each other, then the last one standing would be the victor and your argument would then be satisfied

(my money is on dorian to beat ronnie - he's a pom)

[pumpster]

dorian and ronnie should go at it in the ring

Coleman proved himself an athlete in a contact sport at a demanding position (linebacker, one of the most rigorous positions), and Coleman's much stronger.

[MB]

[quoteRight there you've discredited your entire perspective. MM comparison's an almost farcical contrast thanks to Yates' numerous deficiencies. "Giving him" the MM illuminates your bias.][/quote]

I'm discredited because I think Ronnie wins the MM?  Most people would agree that Ronnie wins that pose.  I'm saying that it would be hard for Ronnie to win any of the other 7 mandatories.  And if you can't win in the comparisons, you can't win the contest.   

[Shockwave]

Coleman proved himself an athlete in a contact sport at a demanding position (linebacker), plus Coleman's much stronger.

Not to mention Dorian is retired.

[FREAKgeek]

There should be a celebrity boxing match at the Trump Plaza - Ronnie vs Dorian 4 rounds. ND vs Hulkster can be the preliminary match 

[pumpster]

ND vs Hulkster can be the preliminary match

Have a feeling that would be like Tyson-Spinks. Pretty funny ND being tossed around like a rag-doll, screaming Yates' name like a beeotch. hahahahhahah

[NarcissisticDeity]

Have a feeling that would be like Tyson-Spinks. Pretty funny ND being tossed around like a rag-doll, screaming Yates' name like a beeotch. hahahahhahah

 

[Oliver Klaushof]

These are pics you guys provided.

[pumpster]

These are pics you guys provided.

Pics confirm that:

-Coleman beats him on front lat, one of Yates' supposedly best shots.

-Coleman's right there on side triceps re: cuts, but with more size.

-On back you've come up with a poor shot of Coleman-nice work!  I don't care who originally posted it, you should've come up with something better than that. Weak.

Their backs are comparable-Yates with better density & dryness, Coleman way out in front on width & taper. Only thing is that Coleman wins overall on back because taper's the no. 1 criteria; Yates is blown out in the comparison. Coleman's trap and arm advantages from the back are also pronounced.

[delta9mda]

no truce yet?

[pumpster]

no truce yet?

Yates is getting pummeled; they seem to enjoy the humiliation..

[Hulkster]

great lats, little else.

Great lats, great everywhere else too:

[pumpster]

great lats, little else.

Excellent fake tan as well; looks metallic like he was doused with a can of paint.