Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[RocketSwitch625]

and yet note how out of shape Ronnie 2001 blows dorian out of the water..even in dorian's BEST EVER shape

LOL

See the difference?

[m8]

Comparing the great Dorian to the likes of Shawn and Flex, haha, you guys are too funny.

[CigaretteMan]

go ahead and report me. I've been called 10x worse and the mods did nothing about it.

  Hm..yeah, except that I actually know Ron Avidan personally, so if I report you things might be different.

  I guarantee you I know more about anatomy than you hence why I'm educating you about the difference between muscles and tendons. All you can do is stomp your feet and repeat yourself, hoping to fool gullible readers.

  Educate me? You have idea what you're talking about. You are only seeing striations on the lower part of the muscle where the tendom attaches. The reason for this is that the muscles become thiner and thiner as they approach the point of attachment in the tendom. If Ronnie'striceps attack low, then you'd see striations all throughout the lower part of the triceps, which we don't.

give it up, kiddo. Muscles are striated. Tendons are not. Ronnie's lateral head displays striations down to the elbow. Dorian's do not.

  I am arguably twice your age, so stop calling me kiddo. Correction: it shows striations down to the elbows right above the tedom. Does it show striations on the lower part of the triceps where the triceps is supposed to be? No, because there is no muscle there.

stop lying. You kept calling the lateral head "triceps" until I corrected you many times. The fact is the lateral head represents only 1 of the 3 triceps heads.

  Isn't the lateral head part of the triceps? I called the lateral head triceps because that's what it is.

[Hulkster]

See the difference?

yes, dorian's arms are even more puny and twig like in the second shot..

totally out of proportion with his 'keg' torso.

thanks for posting that!

[NeoSeminole]

Hm..yeah, except that I actually know Ron Avidan personally, so if I report you things might be different.

I could care less if you personally know Ron. Good job! If he bans me b/c of what I said, then he is unfair and I want nothing more to do with this site. I've reported people who've said worse to me and nothing happened to them.

Educate me? You have idea what you're talking about. You are only seeing striations on the lower part of the muscle where the tendom attaches. The reason for this is that the muscles become thiner and thiner as they approach the point of attachment in the tendom. If Ronnie'striceps attack low, then you'd see striations all throughout the lower part of the triceps, which we don't.

ha ha ha, oh brother! That is exactly what we see.

I am arguably twice your age, so stop calling me kiddo. Correction: it shows striations down to the elbows right above the tedom. Does it show striations on the lower part of the triceps where the triceps is supposed to be? No, because there is no muscle there.

okay, kiddo. Whatever you say.

Isn't the lateral head part of the triceps? I called the lateral head triceps because that's what it is.

sure sure. It's like saying Dorian has better quads b/c you prefer his vastus medialis. Then covering your ass by saying they are part of the quads so it's the same thing. Go home troll.

[RocketSwitch625]

yes, dorian's arms are even more puny and twig like in the second shot..

totally out of proportion with his 'keg' torso.

thanks for posting that!

Hands up all those who like Sulkster.

[RocketSwitch625]

The best:

[IceCold]

and yet note how out of shape Ronnie 2001 blows dorian out of the water..even in dorian's BEST EVER shape

LOL

sure thing, there chief.

ronnie's best of 01 AC would not beat the bigger and harder yates of 93, yet alone a show in which ronnie himself knows he lost - two fingers up to the crowd when they are announcing 2nd place.

[NeoSeminole]

ronnie's best of 01 AC would not beat the bigger and harder yates of 93

bwahahahaha, who are you fooling?












Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

[IceCold]

[NeoSeminole]

01 ASC Ronnie would beat Dorian. In my opinion, that's not even Ronnie's best showing. His physique in 03 would annihilate Dorian.

[RocketSwitch625]

Coleman should be embarassed about those calves. I mean, weak calves can't be hidden so it ruins everything IMO. It's no wonder that most shots of Coleman are cut off at the knees or are taken from the rear where his calves don't look quite so bad.

[CigaretteMan]

ha ha ha, oh brother! That is exactly what we see.

  You don't even know what you're seeing. The best way to see who has the lower attaced triceps is to observe who has the most mass in the lower part of the muscle when contracted. You posted a comparison which proves my point. Dorian has far more mass in the lower part of the muscle than Ronnie; Yates' tciceps attach lower. Ronnie's triceps are high, dude. Get over it. Ronnie's triceps has always been one of his liabilities. The reason why Ronnie's triceps look inferior to Yates' in the side triceps mandatory is exactly because his triceps are high, which gives it poor shape.

okay, kiddo. Whatever you say.

  It is hilarious how emotional you get while arguing a fairly silly subject. I can see from your posts that you have been arguing for over an year about this and have made over a thousand posts in this thread.

sure sure. It's like saying Dorian has better quads b/c you prefer his vastus medialis. Then covering your ass by saying they are part of the quads so it's the same thing. Go home troll.

  I never claimed Dorian had better triceps overral than Ronnie. Coleman's triceps are clearly mor massive than Dorian's, especially in his heavier incarnations. My contention refers especifically to the side triceps mandatory, where I believe that Dorian is superior because the lower attachment point of his triceps makes them more aesthetic than Coleman's in the same pose.

[NeoSeminole]

Coleman should be embarassed about those calves. I mean, weak calves can't be hidden so it ruins everything IMO. It's no wonder that most shots of Coleman are cut off at the knees or are taken from the rear where his calves don't look quite so bad.

"weak calves" my ass. They were just as big as Jay Cutler's in 03, and I doubt you would call Jay's calves weak. The reason Ronnie's calves look small is b/c his thighs are massive in comparison.

[RocketSwitch625]

"weak calves" my ass. They were just as big as Jay Cutler's in 03, and I doubt you would call Jay's calves weak. The reason Ronnie's calves look small is b/c his thighs are massive in comparison.

From Flex Magazine (Sept 2007) Olympia 07 preview:

"Ronnie Coleman's biggest weakness is calves"

PWN£D

[NeoSeminole]

You don't even know what you're seeing. The best way to see who has the lower attaced triceps is to observe who has the most mass in the lower part of the muscle when contracted. You posted a comparison which proves my point. Dorian has far more mass in the lower part of the muscle than Ronnie; Yates' tciceps attach lower. Ronnie's triceps are high, dude. Get over it. Ronnie's triceps has always been one of his liabilities. The reason why Ronnie's triceps look inferior to Yates' in the side triceps mandatory is exactly because his triceps are high, which gives it poor shape.

don't change your criteria now, little boy. You said Ronnie's triceps should display striations throughout the lower part of the muscle if they attach lower than Dorian's, which is exactly what we see. I also provided visual evidence to support my statement. So far you have not provided a single shred of proof to defend your argument. I wonder why...
 

It is hilarious how emotional you get while arguing a fairly silly subject. I can see from your posts that you have been arguing for over an year about this and have made over a thousand posts in this thread.

ha ha ha, you keep thinking that.

I never claimed Dorian had better triceps overral than Ronnie. Coleman's triceps are clearly mor massive than Dorian's, especially in his heavier incarnations. My contention refers especifically to the side triceps mandatory, where I believe that Dorian is superior because the lower attachment point of his triceps makes them more aesthetic than Coleman's in the same pose.

perhaps you never claimed Dorian's triceps are better overall than Ronnie, but you referred to his triceps several times when you really meant just his lateral head. That was the point of my analogy.

Dorian's triceps attach lower and this is why his triceps have the horseshoe shape and looks much better in the side triceps mandatory.

Dorian's triceps looks superior in the side triceps mandatory exactly because it has more mass in the lower part of the muscle

[NeoSeminole]

From Flex Magazine (Sept 2007) Olympia 07 preview:

"Ronnie Coleman's biggest weakness is calves"

PWN£D

how exactly was I "pwned," you dipshit? There's a difference between having weak calves and calves as your weakness. One can have massive calves that are still lagging behind other body parts.

[RocketSwitch625]

how exactly was I "pwned," you dipshit? There's a difference between having weak calves and calves as your weakness. One can have massive calves that are still lagging behind other body parts.

In that case the same applies to Yate's biceps. Thanks for pointing that out kiddo.

[CigaretteMan]

don't change your criteria now, little boy. You said Ronnie's triceps should display striations throughout the lower part of the muscle if they attach lower than Dorian's, which is exactly what we see.

  No, this is not what we see, and it is not what I said. I said that the only part where we see striations in the lower part of Ronnie's triceps is right above the tendom. We see no striations on the outer part of the muscle because there is no muscle there.

I also provided visual evidence to support my statement.

  Posting pictures that show the extreme polar opposite of what you claim is not providing evidence. I hope you can comprehend this on some level, although I suspect I'm being excessively optimistic here.

So far you have not provided a single shred of proof to defend your argument. I wonder why...

  I don't need to. You already posted comparisons that prove exactly my point.

ha ha ha, you keep thinking that.

  C'mon...admit it. You know that you get emotional over this and it is hilarious.

perhaps you never claimed Dorian's triceps are better overall than Ronnie, but you referred to his triceps several times when you really meant just his lateral head. That was the point of my analogy.

  Oh, so every time I want to refer to the lateral head of the triceps, I need to especifically type "lateral triceps head", huh? The last time I checked, the lateral head of the triceps is part of the triceps, and the word triceps is used interchangeably with it.

[England_1]

Is cigarette still claiming to not be sucky? LOL

[CigaretteMan]

Is cigarette still claiming to not be sucky? LOL

  Not only am I claiming not be to Suckmymuscle, but I have offered to prove it to you several times, and you refused. What does that tell about the confidence you have that I am him?

[England_1]

  Not only am I claiming not be to Suckmymuscle, but I have offered to prove it to you several times, and you refused. What does that tell about the confidence you have that I am him?

Your "proof" is laughable at best. An IP check shows nothing. I'd be willing to bet you changed ISPs or moved to a new location. Or you forgot your old password and had to make a new account.

It's no coincidence that the posting style is exactly the same, many times down to the very same words. Odd how "both" of you also attended the 1996 Mr. Olympia. I'm not sure why you don't just admit that you are sucky. It's obvious.

[CigaretteMan]

Your "proof" is laughable at best. An IP check shows nothing. I'd be willing to bet you changed ISPs or moved to a new location. Or you forgot your old password and had to make a new account.

It's no coincidence that the posting style is exactly the same, many times down to the very same words. Odd how "both" of you also attended the 1996 Mr. Olympia. I'm not sure why you don't just admit that you are sucky. It's obvious.

  You have problems, man. Unfortunately, an IP check is the best that one can do to prove he has no other account. As for Suckmymuscle having attended the 1996 Olympia too, I admit that would be an incredible coincidence, and I can understand why you would think that I am him. Can you show the post where he states that?

[NeoSeminole]

Is cigarette still claiming to not be sucky? LOL

now that you mention it, I agree with you. They both argue contrary to what's reality and vehemently defend their losing argument rather than admit they are wrong. It's also suspicious that CigaretteMan started posting in this thread around the same time Suckmyasshole 'mysteriously' vanished.

[Necrosis]

He is obviously suckmymuscle.