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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2024, 03:07:20 PM »
I can't imagine doing 40ml a week, like DJ would say fuk dat shit.

Lately I have been pinning once every 2 weeks around 1.2grams, I should be doing it every week.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2024, 03:08:28 PM »
I can't imagine doing 40ml a week, like DJ would say fuk dat shit. noise

Lately I have been pinning once every 2 weeks around 1.2grams, I should be doing it every week.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2024, 03:08:32 PM »
I loved me some Omnadren in the amps......Sust was also great.

The stuff today doesn`t compare.


Agreed- The underground gear just doesn't have the impact of the Real Pharmaceutical gear.
I used to get my Sust from the NAPP labs in Cambridge UK made for organon - by fuck did they
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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2024, 03:09:44 PM »
I can't imagine doing 40ml a week, like DJ would say fuk dat shit.

Lately I have been pinning once every 2 weeks around 1.2grams, I should be doing it every week.
I hated doing 1-2 shots per week......I couldn`t imagine doing all those shots.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2024, 03:10:50 PM »

Agreed- The underground gear just doesn't have the impact of the Real Pharmaceutical gear.
I used to get my Sust from the NAPP labs in Cambridge UK made for organon - by fuck did they
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Yup,the real deal gear was awesome.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2024, 03:16:02 PM »
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From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.

One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2024, 03:19:33 PM »
I have taken high dosages. I have always said the #1 thing in bb is genetics, if the fibers aren't there to begin with it doesn't matter what you take, you can't grow. Therefore you can 'know' bodybuilding drug use but may not look like anything yourself. I always looked way unimpressive, but I can still play with different dosages and get a feel for what it does.

I don't think there are any drug gurus on getbig or promote themselves as one. Most don't even read my PED related posts, it's not that kind of forum.

I had a confident answer upthread but that's because it's no secret what they do. And anyone is free to try the same cycles themselves, it's not even expensive. But generally these physique guys are actually trying to gain as much muscle as possible but it doesn't come easy if you have genetics for 'just' classic. And not to forget Bumstead is a very good bodybuilder period, would do great in open bb too. I could go into detail on why 'we' 'know' approximately what he is doing but it's not that interesting.

ESFitness is another user who I believe took as much as he claimed, said "6 grams is the sweet spot." Which is an extreme claim and not many have the balls to do such. Not to diss ESF in any way but he looks like "nothing" comparatively to bb competitors. A while back I happened upon his recent posts on IG and he said he now has a serious roid related issue.

I'm sure my post is garbled and perhaps answered something you didn't even ask, but anyway...

Thanks Van B! You always give honest answers and I appreciate that.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2024, 03:21:11 PM »

From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.

One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!

Shaun posted a vid a couple years ago admitting to 7ml a day

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2024, 03:25:48 PM »


From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.

One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!
GEEZUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Shaun posted a vid a couple years ago admitting to 7ml a day
That is fucking insane.

A guy on gh15`s board did 105 shots per week................when he posted a pic,he looked a total disproportioned mess with torn bodyparts and horrific proportions.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2024, 03:28:04 PM »
Shaun posted a vid a couple years ago admitting to 7ml a day


Shaun lived in long Eaton just outside Nottingham & his gym was there,
Its only about 20mls from mine.

I bet shaun never told about having his knees baseball batted because he tried screwing
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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2024, 03:30:46 PM »

Shaun lived in long Eaton just outside Nottingham & his gym was there,
Its only about 20mls from mine.

I bet shaun never told about having his knees baseball batted because he tried screwing
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Shaun passed away didn`t he?


EDIT: I don`t mean from the baseball bat, but that must have left a mark.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2024, 03:35:16 PM »
Shaun passed away didn`t he?


EDIT: I don`t mean from the baseball bat, but that must have left a mark.

Sadly yes - last year , December time.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2024, 03:47:08 PM »
sounds good on paper but just try it, the site pain and lack of oil dispersal would soon start mounting up, one bad shot can leave you sore for a week.

Plus all that oil has to go through your kidneys and liver, you would feel like shit, its like chemo levels of drugs ffs
Yes, I know that. These guys had a "psychopathic" approach to the sport. One of them was a former world record holder in the bench press and once said that he would do anything to break the world record, even if it was the last thing he did.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2024, 03:50:54 PM »
Sadly yes - last year , December time.
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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2024, 04:09:45 PM »

From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.

One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!

Am I the only one reading this insanity and wondering in the back of my mind whether it actually works and whether I should’ve tried it.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2024, 04:30:52 PM »
Am I the only one reading this insanity and wondering in the back of my mind whether it actually works and whether I should’ve tried it.
This is a protocol used like SEO only with steroids in oil. It does not directly cause local muscle growth but stretches the muscle fascia like synthol.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2024, 05:59:41 PM »
Am I the only one reading this insanity and wondering in the back of my mind whether it actually works and whether I should’ve tried it.


Nope its madness - Complete & utter madness.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2024, 12:17:38 AM »

Nope its madness - Complete & utter madness.

750mgs a week is good for me precontest, any more than that I start feeling like shit

Tren is a huge no no, makes me feel ill
Start prep higher test lower mast and then switch around as contest gets closer keeping dosage the same.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2024, 01:56:15 AM »
"3ml a day" is a common off-season approach among the bigger guys nowadays, the middle of the road approach. In the mid 90s dosages crept up overall and yes, on average guys are doing more these days.

Doing megadoses as in large volumes is actually not that hard physically, almost none of the big guys ever report pain. I say physically because mentally you start to resent those daily shots after a while. Injection pain goes away a lot of the time the longer you juice for whatever reason. When I started out a single milliliter of Sustanon would almost cripple me and the other kids, like someone took a baseball bat to your ass, you had to sleep on your other  side because it hurt so much to put weight on the injection side. What high dose does do often is make you feel bad, you simply feel overloaded and uncomfortable. That's why almost everyone smokes so much weed and takes sleeping pills and more. But then you have these really big guys who claim they never got any real sides at any dose. I know of guys who have done 10ml of test in the glute once a week, claim there is no pain at all. I have done 6ml shots, like BigRo, when I just didn't feel like doing it often, no pain. My friend saw one monster do 5 Χ 5ml of assorted steroids in one sitting. The guy was on 9,000mg a week, his monitoring doctor told me this himself.

There is one curious issue with particularly Chinese test enanthate right now. Reportedly the Chinese do some quicker synthesis now that is supposed to leave a tiny amount of some acid in the finished hormone powder and this causes the muscle to knot up. Buddy bought fucking 30 bottles and now he doesn't know if he can use it. I could though.

I always say the stuff today is legit and potent, provided the cook doesn't short you. A lot of gear is tested by janoshik, the market has been demanding that of dealers. On one hand guys say the bodybuilders today use so many drugs but if the gear is fake then they obviously don't. Which is it? And it's ALL Chinese "dirty bath tub gear sold out of the trunk of a car" as oldtimer1 says. There are NO human equivalents for most of the gear bodybuilders take, and even when there is, many experienced guys choose the underground stuff for various reasons. Again, talk of some having better sources is baloney in this day and age, ok some can get test for 10 bucks or less a bottle or whatever because they know the cooks but it's all the same. And it's mostly not car trunk deals, it's internet orders paid for with crypto.

Why the old stuff was "so potent," as I've said a million times, is because we were all obviously younger. I could take one Sustanon and "feel it" when young but like every high doser says they don't even feel say 4 Sustanons a week, no clue if it's "real" going by feel when you're used to one every single day just as a base for a cycle.

This guy has been documenting his high dose cycles, like 5000mg of test, with blood work and so on. That would be the equivalent of 20 Sustanon a week.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2024, 02:56:48 AM »
"3ml a day" is a common off-season approach among the bigger guys nowadays, the middle of the road approach. In the mid 90s dosages crept up overall and yes, on average guys are doing more these days.

Doing megadoses as in large volumes is actually not that hard physically, almost none of the big guys ever report pain. I say physically because mentally you start to resent those daily shots after a while. Injection pain goes away a lot of the time the longer you juice for whatever reason. When I started out a single milliliter of Sustanon would almost cripple me and the other kids, like someone took a baseball bat to your ass, you had to sleep on your other  side because it hurt so much to put weight on the injection side. What high dose does do often is make you feel bad, you simply feel overloaded and uncomfortable. That's why almost everyone smokes so much weed and takes sleeping pills and more. But then you have these really big guys who claim they never got any real sides at any dose. I know of guys who have done 10ml of test in the glute once a week, claim there is no pain at all. I have done 6ml shots, like BigRo, when I just didn't feel like doing it often, no pain. My friend saw one monster do 5 Χ 5ml of assorted steroids in one sitting. The guy was on 9,000mg a week, his monitoring doctor told me this himself.

There is one curious issue with particularly Chinese test enanthate right now. Reportedly the Chinese do some quicker synthesis now that is supposed to leave a tiny amount of some acid in the finished hormone powder and this causes the muscle to knot up. Buddy bought fucking 30 bottles and now he doesn't know if he can use it. I could though.

I always say the stuff today is legit and potent, provided the cook doesn't short you. A lot of gear is tested by janoshik, the market has been demanding that of dealers. On one hand guys say the bodybuilders today use so many drugs but if the gear is fake then they obviously don't. Which is it? And it's ALL Chinese "dirty bath tub gear sold out of the trunk of a car" as oldtimer1 says. There are NO human equivalents for most of the gear bodybuilders take, and even when there is, many experienced guys choose the underground stuff for various reasons. Again, talk of some having better sources is baloney in this day and age, ok some can get test for 10 bucks or less a bottle or whatever because they know the cooks but it's all the same. And it's mostly not car trunk deals, it's internet orders paid for with crypto.

Why the old stuff was "so potent," as I've said a million times, is because we were all obviously younger. I could take one Sustanon and "feel it" when young but like every high doser says they don't even feel say 4 Sustanons a week, no clue if it's "real" going by feel when you're used to one every single day just as a base for a cycle.

This guy has been documenting his high dose cycles, like 5000mg of test, with blood work and so on. That would be the equivalent of 20 Sustanon a week.

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Divided between two syringes, I would get PIP doing 6ml on one side. I am aware a certain "older timer" reads these kind of threads and gets off.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2024, 03:18:02 AM »
Sustanon used to leaved an egg sized lump on my ass cheek............I couldn`t even do crunches for abs.....of course I was doing a CC of Sust and 2 CC`s of other things all in one shot like a dummy.......just for pre-contest.

IFBB pro Dave Marinelli told me that the PIP was caused by the Proprionate in the Sust.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2024, 05:45:47 AM »
I realize GetBig is where all the pharmacists and drug gurus live-so my question: is there anyone on here who takes the doses y’all are claiming- and what do you really look like?

Other than Hanky of course who can’t be trusted to give an honest answer  about anything

I've helped good few with contest prep including a couple of UK
pros back in the early 2000's & involved with 2019 212lb Mr Olympia
winner Kamal.
Does that make me an Expert / Like 1 or 2 like portray themselves
as - NO - only I do know a thing or 2.

As for anyone using that stupid amountof gear,
I would hope not as I deem them highly un-necessary,some will
always think more is better.

Mind they may well be top 10 Mr Olympia's - if so Good for Them.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2024, 07:06:06 AM »
When I lived in Atlanta, I got to know Jeb Castleberry who won the Mr Georgia contest and then promptly stopped competing for the most part.   He worked out at the gym whenever he was in town and we knew a lot of the same folks (non bodybuilding) from south GA.  He stopped competing after that one show because he hated his prep.  His protocol for the prep was :

AM
1ml 100mg Test Susp
1ml 50mg Winstrol V

PM
1ml 100mg Test Susp
1ml 50mg Winstrol V

That comes out to over 2 grams a week, 4ml a day.  And get this... he was a pharmacist.  He was competing back in the 80s when it was much easier to get as things were more lax.   He was using the 30ml bottles from Upjohn and Watson (suspension) and Winthrop (sp?) for the Winstrol V from a source in Augusta instead of what he could have pilfered or bought for himself. 

He said out of all he had access to, he chose this after much research.  And obviously it worked.  He coached a few others on the side and gave them the same prep and it worked for them too.  These include the late Bruce West (you old timers may recall him that sort of burst out of nowhere and won the Jr USA with major expectations of him before being forced to quit and later dying) and another person I will call Nate that was like a damn rocket going to the top.  He could have turned pro any time he wanted and made a dent, but he kept getting in trouble (legal) off and on.

So yeah, even back in the 80s people were using high doses.  Just not like today though.

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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2024, 01:27:41 PM »
The bigger the muscle the more oil it can hold. If u are a 170 lb competitor u are getting away with 5cc in you delt. A 300lb probably could but I would recommend over 1cc at a time in any muscle.  That's just me though
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Re: Bumstead … What are his cycles?
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2024, 04:11:02 PM »



He said out of all he had access to, he chose this after much research.  And obviously it worked. 

Seems like back then it was common to go all "water base" like half way through prep because they felt water based gear caused less water retention. Whether that is true or not can be debated but doing 1.4 grams of pure test is going to work better than most other gear which are comparatively weaker. That stack will work beautifully for many. Test is an androgen and the rest are anabolics but test is more anabolic than the anabolics. This is what they kind of missed back then.