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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2024, 03:25:00 PM »
I thought it was added up correctly and my friends at the gym told me it was.  It was heavy and as I said, it ultimately broke the seat part of the machine.

How exactly was the person attached to the machine?  Did they have really good balance and stand on the leg pad?  Stood on the weight stack?

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2024, 03:25:10 PM »
I think it goes back to this -

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The rumor was McMahon had the plates mixed real and fake to make Platz look good because he was down with Icopro and the WBF. I've only really heard it from Kazmaier, but Kazmaier can be an asshole sometimes.

The only other thing on the Platz squat, is that he was wearing an old school squat suit during it. Some people make a big deal out of it, but they didn't give you much.

So what do YOU think? :D I think it's a tainted feat :D Plus Fortress has established that Platz has exaggerated in articles.

I'm experienced somewhat with suits and in my opinion that suit didn't give him anything probably. More like a singlet. There definitely were suits then that gave you a lot but they are worn extremely tight or it's useless. I have a deadlift suit that is like 35 years old and it gave me 60lbs at least.

Edir. Not that anyone cares probably but this is the old suit I had. It's in my friend's possession now but I'll ask for it back if he won't use it anymore lol. It was a strange material that didn't have hardly any give at all but it's mythical in old school powerlifting circles.
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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2024, 03:39:36 PM »
The Scott, are you sure you don't mean a 750-lb leg press?

This is a typical leg extensions machine, it is difficult to believe you added 500 lbs of person-holding-weights to one.


This leg extension machine was from the late '70s early '80s.

The most I have ever used on the vertical leg press was 700lbs. so you could be correct on the leg extension as my friends told me that was the weight.  On the press, I was very strong on it because those presses are so much easier than squats.  I hate those leaning leg presses they have now and barely tried one years ago for PT on my good leg.  I freely admit that I have problems with some memory stuff and was warned that could happen because I was dead for so long  the last surgery and may have some brain damage due to the length of time without oxygen.  I did a LOT of reps with that weight because it is easier than the squat. 

I know that one day I worked in with a couple of San Diego Chargers on the squat and they had 505 on there and said I could join them but they didn't take weight off.  They each got 5 or 6 reps and then I knocked out 20 and asked it we could go up in weight.  Years later I had a boss that knew one of them and he said he asked him about me and the man just said it was true about me and the squat. 

During that football strike in the 80s I thought about trying out for a scab position on the Chargers.  Another guy at the gym was going to do so too. He was a genuine athlete, much more so than me.  We used to argue about the music and would change it to piss each other off and then "threaten" to whup one another.  He was black and I was white so that played a part in the whole thing.  He told me he would run circles around him on the field and I knew he could!  I told him  that if he was on the other side of the line, I would run him over and he knew I would.   I never tried out as outside of knocking over people I had nothing to offer.  I was not fast, just very strong legs.   I knew from squatting with the two Chargers I was stronger on the leg stuff than most likely anyone on the team but I also knew I was no athlete and I did not want to be humiliated too much. ;D

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2024, 03:40:28 PM »
How exactly was the person attached to the machine?  Did they have really good balance and stand on the leg pad?  Stood on the weight stack?

Yes. My friend stood on the stack of weights with a belt and plates. 

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2024, 03:46:00 PM »
bearing in mind no one has ever matched Toms squat since then maybe he did use a couple fake plates.

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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2024, 03:51:46 PM »
So what do YOU think? :D I think it's a tainted feat :D Plus Fortress has established that Platz has exaggerated in articles.

I'm experienced somewhat with suits and in my opinion that suit didn't give him anything probably. More like a singlet. There definitely were suits then that gave you a lot but they are worn extremely tight or it's useless. I have a deadlift suit that is like 35 years old and it gave me 60lbs at least.

I've never cared about the squat suit argument. It looks old, and 99% of the old timers I've talked to said they only gave you a little bit when new and fit well, and almost nothing when old.

On the fake plates. I want to believe he did it, but I also leave the door open. On old stuff like this, if it's not too wild, I just shrug, and go "maybe".

On the one hand you've got Platz, who was a known squatting monster, growing up among guys like Schmansky and Lowe, who didn't take a lot of bullshit because of their Olympic background.

And then you think maybe he just had a good day.

And then you think, there's lots of folks there, walking by, touching the weights, loading them, unloading them, etc.... Someone would say something. But Kaz was the first guy I've heard it from, and he's weird sometimes.

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On the other hand, it is Kazmaier, and muscle sports have lots of bullshit that goes on in them.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2024, 03:52:56 PM »
bearing in mind no one has ever matched Toms squat since then maybe he did use a couple fake plates.

I saw him squat one day and it was very impressive.  He did the ass to grass stuff which I was warned against by my powerlifting friends.  They said competition depth or just a bit lower was fine for my needs.  Platz was strong and I have no real reason to doubt him on the weights he was capable of. 

Never saw Kazmaier in the real world but people would tell me he was a rough and grumpy guy sometimes.  I do know he was a very powerful man in every way and it showed in his build.  Bench, squat deadlift and strongman too.  I was always impressed by both Pacifico and Doug Young.  They were fantasic and had great builds too.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2024, 05:27:13 PM »
I've done 225lbs. for 100 reps and 300lbs. (it might've been 315lbs. but I am almost certain it was 300!) for 50 reps.   My last day in a gym I trained at I did 515 for 20, 535 for 20, 585 for 5 and then back down to 515 for 20.  I changed gyms and they didn't always have enough weight so I just did more reps.  Leg extensions were done with up to 750lbs.  Two coaches estimated my max squat to be at least 700lbs. but to be honest I never tried as I preferred lighter weights for high reps so that I wouldn't be injured.

I do not have knee problems from squatting.  I am a handicapable person from a few work related incidents as well as ones that occurred in the course of my normal life.   I am not on "disability" as I was raised to do my best to avoid that.   I am quite possibly the world's worst bench presser as at a body weight of 250lbs. I could only do a single of 350lbs.

I really miss being kinda strong.  Age and injuries or as my older friends used to call it, "life" as taken me down a few notches.  I really enjoy reading stuff that all here have done (except bhanky) as it brings back memories and I very much admire those that train hard to be the strongest they can be.

Wow.

That is an absolute ton.

I’ve never seen or heard of anyone coming close to this kind of weight.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2024, 01:16:19 AM »

SO Did Fred Hatfield also use the Fake weights ?
For whatever reason I believe Kaz is talking nonsense about Tom & Fake weights.
exactly Fred Hatfield did the same loaded bar and he did less,  with worse form. like 14 reps or what ever don't remember. So where they supposed to change to lighter plates at the stage being filmed?


Btw Fred had a higher 1 rep max in the same competition. But I want to put an asterix to That because of the form not being comparable to Toms.. He did a 855 in that competition against Tom. But his best competion lift was 1000 something. So they used lighter plates here but still he had much less than his best record, yeah makes sense....



Kaz is just a wacko and not really credible to believe he proved this by all the nonsense and bullshit stories he tells all the time.

there's always some people that want to make everything a conspiracy. They find it in everything.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2024, 03:43:54 AM »
According to the internet, the date on the Platz/Hatfield squat-off (nh) was 1992.  Fred was pretty old then, 50 years old in 1992, although his powerlifting success started relatively late, he won his first national title at 35, his last at 44, and did the 1000-lb squat at age 45.  Tom would have been 37 in 1992.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2024, 04:40:03 AM »
According to the internet, the date on the Platz/Hatfield squat-off (nh) was 1992.  Fred was pretty old then, 50 years old in 1992, although his powerlifting success started relatively late, he won his first national title at 35, his last at 44, and did the 1000-lb squat at age 45.  Tom would have been 37 in 1992.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #61 on: October 01, 2024, 12:53:27 AM »
I saw him squat one day and it was very impressive.  He did the ass to grass stuff which I was warned against by my powerlifting friends.  They said competition depth or just a bit lower was fine for my needs.  Platz was strong and I have no real reason to doubt him on the weights he was capable of. 

Never saw Kazmaier in the real world but people would tell me he was a rough and grumpy guy sometimes.  I do know he was a very powerful man in every way and it showed in his build.  Bench, squat deadlift and strongman too.  I was always impressed by both Pacifico and Doug Young.  They were fantasic and had great builds too.
If more powerlifters had physiques like Pacifico and Young there would be a lot more powerlifters.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2024, 03:40:54 AM »
I've never cared about the squat suit argument. It looks old, and 99% of the old timers I've talked to said they only gave you a little bit when new and fit well, and almost nothing when old.

On the fake plates. I want to believe he did it, but I also leave the door open. On old stuff like this, if it's not too wild, I just shrug, and go "maybe".

On the one hand you've got Platz, who was a known squatting monster, growing up among guys like Schmansky and Lowe, who didn't take a lot of bullshit because of their Olympic background.

And then you think maybe he just had a good day.

And then you think, there's lots of folks there, walking by, touching the weights, loading them, unloading them, etc.... Someone would say something. But Kaz was the first guy I've heard it from, and he's weird sometimes.

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On the other hand, it is Kazmaier, and muscle sports have lots of bullshit that goes on in them.

The people I’ve known had have met Kazmaier said he was insecure narcissist bitter at his perceivedly undeserved lack of fame.  Him making a story like this up just to bring Tom Platz down a peg would totally fit everything I’ve heard

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2024, 10:44:00 AM »
Kaz is a character.

Hung with him a few times.

Can be, uh, spaced-out-ish, but overall, a good dude.

He is/was one thick and imposing man.

Bill is in the all-time list for strongest men to have ever lived.

NO question.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2024, 10:51:48 AM »
Kaz is a character.

Hung with him a few times.

Can be, uh, spaced-out-ish, but overall, a good dude.

He is/was one thick and imposing man.

Bill is in the all-time list for strongest men to have ever lived.

NO question.

I thought he was pretty good at WSM color commentary as well. Calming voice of peace

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #65 on: October 01, 2024, 11:05:27 AM »
I thought he was pretty good at WSM color commentary as well. Calming voice of peace

My buddy used to live very close to him. Saw him semi-regularly out and about. Says he was always friendly and polite.

A huge, hulking dude.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #66 on: October 01, 2024, 11:12:00 AM »
I never knew Kaz was in WCW.  Here he is against Mankind.

Gotta love Kaz no-selling the kendo stick to the head :D


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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2024, 11:21:48 AM »
The people I’ve known had have met Kazmaier said he was insecure narcissist bitter at his perceivedly undeserved lack of fame.  Him making a story like this up just to bring Tom Platz down a peg would totally fit everything I’ve heard

I know lots of folks that have dealt with him over the years, most describe him as a hot or cold personality. You catch him on the right day, he's a warm, funny guy. You catch him on the wrong day, he's a grump. And yeah, he's a "I did x when X actually meant something" guy. Kaz needs his attention.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2024, 12:06:47 PM »
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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2024, 12:10:45 PM »
:)


Is that The Scott repping out 585 with his lifting-buddy sat on his back for extra weight? Impressive stuff.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #70 on: October 01, 2024, 02:08:52 PM »
Too many nutso performances to single out one.

Eddie Hall’s 10 with 760 with no spot, belt, or wraps, is a STAGGERING display of strength.

Holy hell…


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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #71 on: October 01, 2024, 03:59:17 PM »
I can't find 760x10 but here's Hall with 760x7.


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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #72 on: October 01, 2024, 04:11:58 PM »
On getbig a strength feat doesn't mean anything if it's by a fatso. And I think a bit like that.

Here's a fella setting an ALTW weighing in at 87kg! Holy fucking shit, he attempted a 415kg conventional deadlift.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5gMltQOe_3/?igsh=MWthNHphenN4bmxkeQ==

The bod

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #73 on: October 01, 2024, 04:14:52 PM »
Yes there should definitely be a conversion factor for lifts done by fat people.

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Re: Greatest barbell squat set of all-time
« Reply #74 on: October 01, 2024, 04:19:26 PM »
Doug Young: