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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2024, 09:44:59 AM »
damn what a difference he was on the last night show.

must have done the milos program to fill him up  :D

I'msure you saw all the drama between him and Milos in recent times. I'm sure he did some things Milos taught him but he made it sound like he was on his deathbed in the past due to Milos' advice. Milos said he gave him two (2!) Dyazides over 3 days peaking. My mom has taken a Dyazide every day for decadesfor blood pressure. My buddy who competed at a high level used to take a total of 6-7 Dyazides but over 5-6  days, for many of his shows and never once even had cramping. Yes of course even low amounts of diuretics can push things over tve line, but my point is that Samson's use was very very conservativeand thepeople who say all the coaches push extreme levels of drugs just isn't true. Milos said Samson took tren for the firs time for an Arnold Classic and it was just 6-8 weeks starting at 100mg a week! and increasing to 300mg. There are many pros who have done tren for 10 or even 20 years straight and sometimes increasing to 200-300mg A DAY before shows.

He wins when the wife "coaches".  How does anyone get around the conclusion that coaches are worthless hand holders.

I dare say Milos' programs, the total amounts and peaking protocols are actually very simple. If Samson was with Milos for 3 years that's enough to absorb most of his knowledge. But as a matter of fact Milos spoke to Samson's wife mostly because Samson wasn't interested so the wife probably "knows more" about protocols than him. But at the same time, while you are overall fairly correct, the rol of the coach is as a psychologist, giving them a program and diet without them having to worry about how much they are eating and so on. And the coach can also pump them up mentally, and you know Milos for sure was saying Samson could be Mr O and turn out he was right. Even after their falling out Milos said Samson for sure has a Mr O winning physique and on a particular day he could win. So yoy have this coach who's seen it all saying you are a potential Mr O - that can be tremendously valuable. IMHO  8)

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson just won the O
« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2024, 10:15:26 AM »
Hadi was in shape. But the oiled delts are just too much.

Derek also has too much obvious oil, especially visible in the lats (which you would think he would have corrected last year). And he just has that insulana bloofy look

Both he and Derek are manlets (of peace).

So Samson deserves it. I would put Jacked at #1 or #2 buy the way.

Wonder if either of them have oiled body parts? If so, it's not overly obvious.

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2024, 10:35:03 AM »
I'msure you saw all the drama between him and Milos in recent times. I'm sure he did some things Milos taught him but he made it sound like he was on his deathbed in the past due to Milos' advice. Milos said he gave him two (2!) Dyazides over 3 days peaking. My mom has taken a Dyazide every day for decadesfor blood pressure. My buddy who competed at a high level used to take a total of 6-7 Dyazides but over 5-6  days, for many of his shows and never once even had cramping. Yes of course even low amounts of diuretics can push things over tve line, but my point is that Samson's use was very very conservativeand thepeople who say all the coaches push extreme levels of drugs just isn't true. Milos said Samson took tren for the firs time for an Arnold Classic and it was just 6-8 weeks starting at 100mg a week! and increasing to 300mg. There are many pros who have done tren for 10 or even 20 years straight and sometimes increasing to 200-300mg A DAY before shows.

I dare say Milos' programs, the total amounts and peaking protocols are actually very simple. If Samson was with Milos for 3 years that's enough to absorb most of his knowledge. But as a matter of fact Milos spoke to Samson's wife mostly because Samson wasn't interested so the wife probably "knows more" about protocols than him. But at the same time, while you are overall fairly correct, the rol of the coach is as a psychologist, giving them a program and diet without them having to worry about how much they are eating and so on. And the coach can also pump them up mentally, and you know Milos for sure was saying Samson could be Mr O and turn out he was right. Even after their falling out Milos said Samson for sure has a Mr O winning physique and on a particular day he could win. So yoy have this coach who's seen it all saying you are a potential Mr O - that can be tremendously valuable. IMHO  8)
I'm sure everyone will call bullshit but apparently Samson doesn't have to run that much gear. Lining up with what you're saying

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson just won the O
« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2024, 11:22:30 AM »
Where are all the pictures?! And the background was horrible. You need a black background! Put the advertisements somewhere else or as a watermark at the bottom of all the photos.

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson just won the O
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2024, 11:25:09 AM »
Where are all the pictures?! And the background was horrible. You need a black background! Put the advertisements somewhere else or as a watermark at the bottom of all the photos.

Samson wouldn’t have won with a black background. All you’d see would’ve been a floating glittered thong

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2024, 11:35:08 AM »
I'm sure everyone will call bullshit but apparently Samson doesn't have to run that much gear. Lining up with what you're saying

If you've seen me post over the years you know I call BS on a lot of drug related claims. The reason I tend to believe Milos regarding the diuretics is that Samson could easily say that's all BS, he had me take aldactone and finish with the more dangerous loop diuretic Bumex or Lasix, öike he did withDennis Wolf in 2006 or whenever he was at his best and got 3rd.
There are many Milos clients on the forums and they all tend to say he was conservative with the roids. I don't know if poster 'honest' here on getbig was ever a client but he's posted aboutt Milos' drug stacks. It's probably more like his clients double, or more, his stacks. Milos' daredevil methods now imcludes 25iu of Humalog IV both before and after training. It's IV so it sounds extra dangerous but plenty of pros use way more insulin.

I don't think Samson's stacks are light by any means but the tren comment was so specific that it might be true  sounded like Samson was afraid of it or had a very bad experience previously.

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2024, 11:38:23 AM »
I'm sure everyone will call bullshit but apparently Samson doesn't have to run that much gear. Lining up with what you're saying

If he doesnt run much gear why is his skull expanding?


he also end up in hospital after the Arnold this year

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson just won the O
« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2024, 11:42:45 AM »
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So Samson deserves it. I would put Jacked at #1 or #2 buy the way.

Wonder if either of them have oiled body parts? If so, it's not overly obvious.

Yes they do oil like everyone else, at least to some degree. Both at least have oiled calves, like 99% of black bodybuilders. Even Ronnie oiled his calves. I can't prove it and it's not so obvious that everyone can see it but I feel I can definitely "see"  ;D

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2024, 01:50:04 PM »
If you've seen me post over the years you know I call BS on a lot of drug related claims. The reason I tend to believe Milos regarding the diuretics is that Samson could easily say that's all BS, he had me take aldactone and finish with the more dangerous loop diuretic Bumex or Lasix, öike he did withDennis Wolf in 2006 or whenever he was at his best and got 3rd.
There are many Milos clients on the forums and they all tend to say he was conservative with the roids. I don't know if poster 'honest' here on getbig was ever a client but he's posted aboutt Milos' drug stacks. It's probably more like his clients double, or more, his stacks. Milos' daredevil methods now imcludes 25iu of Humalog IV both before and after training. It's IV so it sounds extra dangerous but plenty of pros use way more insulin.

I don't think Samson's stacks are light by any means but the tren comment was so specific that it might be true  sounded like Samson was afraid of it or had a very bad experience previously.

They are putting in their own IV at the gym?  :o

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2024, 01:54:11 PM »
They are putting in their own IV at the gym?  :o

its Humalog 4, its Roman numerals   ;D ;D

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2024, 02:06:19 PM »
2 diazides, just the finishing touch. Who believes any of this?

The real secret reason Samson won was that he did 55iu’s of GH the night before. 54iu’s is not enough.

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« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2024, 02:39:52 PM »
I'msure you saw all the drama between him and Milos in recent times. I'm sure he did some things Milos taught him but he made it sound like he was on his deathbed in the past due to Milos' advice. Milos said he gave him two (2!) Dyazides over 3 days peaking. My mom has taken a Dyazide every day for decadesfor blood pressure. My buddy who competed at a high level used to take a total of 6-7 Dyazides but over 5-6  days, for many of his shows and never once even had cramping. Yes of course even low amounts of diuretics can push things over tve line, but my point is that Samson's use was very very conservativeand thepeople who say all the coaches push extreme levels of drugs just isn't true. Milos said Samson took tren for the firs time for an Arnold Classic and it was just 6-8 weeks starting at 100mg a week! and increasing to 300mg. There are many pros who have done tren for 10 or even 20 years straight and sometimes increasing to 200-300mg A DAY before shows.

I dare say Milos' programs, the total amounts and peaking protocols are actually very simple. If Samson was with Milos for 3 years that's enough to absorb most of his knowledge. But as a matter of fact Milos spoke to Samson's wife mostly because Samson wasn't interested so the wife probably "knows more" about protocols than him. But at the same time, while you are overall fairly correct, the rol of the coach is as a psychologist, giving them a program and diet without them having to worry about how much they are eating and so on. And the coach can also pump them up mentally, and you know Milos for sure was saying Samson could be Mr O and turn out he was right. Even after their falling out Milos said Samson for sure has a Mr O winning physique and on a particular day he could win. So yoy have this coach who's seen it all saying you are a potential Mr O - that can be tremendously valuable. IMHO  8)
I'm talking mostly Milos insulin "routine" right before a show along with filling up with carbs.

Because I thought it was mostly how much fuller he was 2nd day. and might be from doing that. But maybe it was just a timing issue.

refering to

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2024, 02:52:03 PM »
I never realized Milo’s was a doctor

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2024, 03:00:47 PM »
They are putting in their own IV at the gym?  :o

They do it like any junkie with a syringe. A few years ago there was a trend out of California iirc of putting GH in the veins too but it turned out to be a bust and not worth it, besides, the body clears the GH in minutes anyway. But now that I think of it, surely they put a little GH in along with the insulin, as long as you are puncturing a vein. Someone said they put in carnitine with the shot.

I saw Milos' written diary of his carb loading protocol and if I remember correctly it was 10iu of Lantus once and then 8iu of Humalog with every other meal. Now some pros are taking at least 10 times more Lantus and at least another 100iu of Humalog.

I don't think doing something IV crosses any lines for me, but from what some say just the puncturing of the vein numerous times is problematic from a health standpoint.

I'm talking mostly Milos insulin "routine" right before a show along with filling up with carbs.

Because I thought it was mostly how much fuller he was 2nd day. and might be from doing that. But maybe it was just a timing issue.

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They have said using insulin while loading you can see yourself inflate in front of a mirror. While it does help I don't think insulin works that dramatically for most.
That story is utter baloney, going from looking like he weighed 190lbs to 250lbs in a matter of minutes lol. White as a ghost I believe, that can be viaually dramatic.

But sure, high likelihood he did take insulin, first with the, I assume, the 3 day carb load and maybe after predjudging. But it could also be that he was most dehydrated predjudging and then didn't take more diuretics and rehydrated some.


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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2024, 03:08:03 PM »
“Bodybuilding coaches”

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #90 on: October 15, 2024, 12:18:05 AM »
If he doesnt run much gear why is his skull expanding?


he also end up in hospital after the Arnold this year
He looks like an Ethiopian marathon runner in that 1st pic.

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Re: Samson just won the O
« Reply #91 on: October 15, 2024, 05:04:06 AM »
I`m cool with that......congrats to him.

Same here......  although "I'm cool with that" means he won, but he wasn't the most conditioned lol





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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #92 on: October 15, 2024, 05:06:55 AM »
Same here......  although "I'm cool with that" means he won, but he wasn't the most conditioned lol





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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #93 on: October 15, 2024, 08:04:56 PM »
If I didn't see him on the second-to-last issue of MD, I might not know who he is. But, he beat THREE MR. Os to get it done!!

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #94 on: October 15, 2024, 10:13:04 PM »
That's one scary and unattractive coverphoto. Only schmoes and fetish weirdos will love it.

(Eight us dollars for a bs magazine, no wonder such publications are going out of business. Everything in it can be found / read / seen online for free).

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson just won the O
« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2024, 11:13:25 PM »
:D

He was just there hoping to suck dicks.

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #96 on: October 16, 2024, 12:28:00 AM »
That's one scary and unattractive coverphoto. Only schmoes and fetish weirdos will love it.

(Eight us dollars for a bs magazine, no wonder such publications are going out of business. Everything in it can be found / read / seen online for free).
Are there any magazines left?

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson just won the O
« Reply #97 on: October 16, 2024, 01:03:51 AM »
Hadi was in shape. But the oiled delts are just too much.

Derek also has too much obvious oil, especially visible in the lats (which you would think he would have corrected last year). And he just has that insulana bloofy look

Both he and Derek are manlets (of peace).

So Samson deserves it. I would put Jacked at #1 or #2 buy the way.

Wonder if either of them have oiled body parts? If so, it's not overly obvious.

Everybody and their mama have oiled parts at the O.

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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #98 on: October 16, 2024, 06:42:49 AM »
That's one scary and unattractive coverphoto. Only schmoes and fetish weirdos will love it.

(Eight us dollars for a bs magazine, no wonder such publications are going out of business. Everything in it can be found / read / seen online for free).

Fifteen or twenty years ago, MD was half as much and TWICE as big, over 400 pages (with lots of ads, of course).

As I said elsewhere, the problem with relying on online stuff is that you don't really pay attention to the current stars. All folks do is get nostalgic and look for footage of bodybuilders from their favorite era: 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s.

Are there any magazines left?

Nope. MD was the last of the mohicans. I had a subscription, which was $30 a year (it went up to $35 last year, which is still less than $3 per issue).

The final MD was with Ronnie Coleman on the cover.


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Re: 2024 Olympia - Samson Dauda just won the O
« Reply #99 on: October 16, 2024, 06:59:41 AM »
If I didn't see him on the second-to-last issue of MD, I might not know who he is. But, he beat THREE MR. Os to get it done!!


he looks like a glazed doughnut