Once again I appreciate your objective and thoughtful response. I apologize. This is comically long. Im almost embarrassed to post it but it's important for me not to be misunderstood so I try to articulate these things as best I can... btw this is not ALL me, after the break in text lot of it is your quoted post and my comments in bold.
Because you are a non-U.S. citizen I can see how you would believe the anti-Trump narrative, given the American MSM has been cultivating it in overdrive nonstop for the past 10 years- or ever since he threw his hat into politics as a conservative republican. Let me give a little background for you to consider- American MSM is 90% far left and has basically colluded with the democratic party in framing him as a pedo, a felon, a liar, a racist- which is the most obvious and egregious lie that has brought irreparable harm and division to this country. When you have a billionaire like Soros paying BLM, anti-israel, anti ice, anti trump, pro Trans, pro abortion, protestors, creating endless donation funnels for anti law enforcement judges, DA's, even police chiefs and sheriff's, mayors, governors and presidential candidates it paints a picture of conspiracy in which-generally speaking- trump law and order and traditional American values are on one side and everything anti-those-values and those who've been influenced by the conspiracy are on the other side. This can only be accomplished with the deliberate take over and buy in of a leftist biased MSM. Prior to Trump being a Republican he was loved by democrat politicians and primarily seen a sleazy but likeable goofball by the American public.
One of the biggest examples of the gaslighting done by dems and MSM is the fact that they've reached far back into a day and age when he was loved by the media and the Clinton's and Obama's and reframed things they were previously all good with such as teen beauty pageants and the infamous "grab 'em by the pussy" comment. There's no way to go into all the details in a forum text format but thats a high level overview.
"I know and I have zero problem with pushback that challenges me, but I'm sure you know that too, there's room for different perspectives. The way I see it: Trump did release
some files, but he fought against it, "couldn't understand the interest in it" and "we should just move on" and "it's a democrat hoax."
They said there are 6 million files, only 3 have been released. There were reports in the "fake news media" that JD Vance was advocating in a sort of emergency (LOL) meeting that the admin should get in front of this thing and release everything NOW.
https://www.rsn.org/001/inside-the-white-house-freakout-over-the-epstein-files.html Vance said on Rogan that they mishandled the release and should have released them immediately. So
, Trump did obfuscate the importance of the files. My belief as I have said is from a practical perspective as a person with extensive history in the American Legal Justice System, that releasing the files prior to bringing charges against everyone implicated in the files is insane, you're basically telling them in advance what your evidence against them is and giving them time to create whatever alibi they need to create. Now, it would've been easy for him to say this but he didn't and his downplaying of it is a terrible look that leaves more questions. And I have no doubt democrats and republicans in high positions are implicated and I find it repulsive that they were introducing articles to hold each other harmless! This was completely breezed over by American MSM. My belief here is that the implications are so widespread that without some strategy in releasing the files it wouldve been almost reckless as it would literally brought the nation to a halt and may have led to something akin to martial law, to be frank. Maybe thats not the best phrase but it would've led to a national disorder never seen before- think of a scenario where taking out a criminal- a hostage taker with IED's that will kill innocents if he is killed as a metaphor. Think about the time line, Epstein was arrested at the end of Trumps first term, then covid breaks out- as we know from the files that very well could've been part of a plan orchestrated by Epstein. So It's not unreasonable to believe the extent of the files was unknown to Trump. Then as part of his reelection bid he promises to release the files. He reaquires the presidency, learns the full extent of the files and has to backtrack or literally bring widespread chaos to the nation at a time when we're already at the breaking point.
appreciate Vances upfront honesty and as Trumps 2nd in command that should go someway towards mitigating the back-pedaling. Again, the files that CAN be released HAVE been released. But here we are still blaming Trump, what is he supposed to do? Release them again? There are still active criminal investigations going on.
The Biden admin and the democrats could have done it all during their time. They are as much to blame but as a non-American I see the US parties as a uniparty on many things. This is one of them. The uniparty not only would protect pedos in both the parties.
Whether they are a uniparty is debatable, I would say for all the division between the parties, the barking and posturing, my quality of life has changed very little between presidencies. My day to day existence, safety and financial security has been very stable whether it was GH Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden. I would say many politicians have the same hidden agendas and converging interests whether there is a secret society puppeteering the parties.. but it absolutely would not want anything that comes out to reveal the intelligence connections of Epstein, Mossad and CIA primarily. On Rogan JD Vance claimed Epstein
very obviously had ties to both US and Israeli intelligence. What do you think, likely true? Very obviously true IMO.
100% true. Undoubtedly. From everything we know from the files and external information there is no doubt Epstein was put in place by the Israeli government/mossad to cultivate blackmail material and gain control over powerful political assets.
Regardless of whether there's any solid incriminating evidence against Trump in the files it seems to me that it can't be disputed that Trump hated the idea of releasing the files. So if there's anything really bad about Trump in there he's on record saying the release of the files will hurt his friends. Most democrat haters/Trump supporters here don't question why Trump say he really hates that the Clintons' pics from the files were released, said he really likes Bill. It's the Clintons for fucks sake LOL, DEMS!
Because as an American Bill Clinton was a very well liked character and beloved US President. His years in office- AT THE TIME-were marked by political stability, financial growth, and comical political intrigue- a blowjob from monica lewinski is the equivalent of the 90's finest Jim Carey comedy compared to todays political turmoil. The 90's were a great decade, the liberal equivalent of the great decade the conservative/Reganesque 80's were. A very enjoyable 20 year period of good times a fond memories for aging boomers and Gen Xers. My point is, though it may have been predictable it was heartbreaking to see the man responsible for those years as a repulsive, filthy, pedophile. It repaints those years for many people as the breadth and far reaching- Global- nature of the Epstein pedo ring brings a sickening helpless feeling in the pit of my stomach, like when the worlds most powerful people are coming for our children and getting away with murder and some of those people are American Icons, it is sad. It's deeply troubling as a a patriot it makes me sick to the core of my person. Ive never been more convinced that good will not triumph over evil. there is incriminating shit about Trump there I believe it's now long gone. Now you would ask why wouldn't the dems have released anything if it could destroy Trump? Well, I
think because there was stuff there that was actually threatening national security; this man was allowed by US intelligence to run his filthy operation. Plus a lot of dem names too.
Exactly!!! And this is one of my points! This is exactly why Trump backpedaled once he was reelected and saw the wide reaching impact of the files. We're fortunate that he released the 3 million of the 6 million that exist.Now as to Trump generally. I believe he's a nasty person in that I think he would have zero problems with for example fucking underage girls. I've made the point repeatedly that his young girl beauty pageants already makes him look real bad. No decent parent would want their underage teen girl parade in front of Trump in a bikini. There's also so many stories by girls who were underage regarding how Trump acted towards them and what went on around his pageants, what with old lecherous men dancing and groping and plying with alcohol these little girls. It's Trump's responsibility too if he invited these creeps there.
Did this happen? Or is it rhetoric? Such as the ridiculous and utterly absurd claim that he's a 37X convicted felon? In what can only be described as a outrageous case of malicious prosecution for a guy who essentially reached a civil settlement with a lying bitch. LOL. Just like they tried to do with Brett Cavanaugh. They just perfected the strategy and escalated it from a confirmation hearing to an actual criminal charge. Yes. Malicious prosecution is a 'thing' in America and normally it portrays the state in a terrible light and the defendant as a victim of excessive and undue government influence. But once again, if it is a well to do white male on the receiving end of such a prosecution it is merely looked at as evidence of how evil the white man is. Let alone Trump who is seen as the dying face of the white male patriarchy in the US.
These are just some of my thoughts and I do see where you're coming from with some of this stuff as well
Now moving on to yet another Trump matter in the news currently. How about Trump "respecting Biden's Fauci pardon"?
Now of course Trump respects Biden since he's going to preemptively pardon all his family and friends at the end of his term. This guy roasts both sides of the isle regarding the Covid affair and I generally agree with all his points.
Generally the Trump supporters here feel the Covid vaccine was the crime of the century, But let's not forget who had a hand in it...
Well, what was realistically to do? No matter what initial position he took, legacy media was going to take the opposite view. When he initially tried to quarantine visitors from China and block Chinese from visiting the US, he was portrayed as a racist bigot LOL. Yet when he claimed covid was nothing more than a bad flu season which was entirely true, he was portrayed as being dangerously ignorant of the so called deadly virus. I mean ffs I had it twice before I was vaccinated and didn't even know I had it! So its under his administration that the first vaccine is created and once again he's not given any credit for then joe Biden miraculously wakes up from the infirmary and takes credit for it, which the media gladly obliges! As far as pardons, thats bullshit, i truly do not pay attention to politics. I reallydont, but I pay attention to the political narrative and the vast difference between that narrative and objective reality- for example I was told covid was killing all these people. I literallydo not know a single personwho died of covid. I had one friend, it was actually covered in the media due to the public position he held, but he was never tested for it ? I think he died before a reliable test was developed! Contradictorily I have been told the vaccine has killed X number of people, i literally do not know a single person who died as a result of the vaccine. I did not know or simply do not remember a pardon of fauci- if true it is unfogiveable but does not invalidate any of my positions on Epstein files it remains to be seen who he will pardon on his way out of office. (BTW I got the J&J vax because while it was supposedly less effective it was not the experimental mRNA vaccine but the commonly used cold virus vaccine thats been used for decades- before and retards like Tapeworm chime in with his ignorant bullshit about my so called 'cowardice' as an aside Tapefuck, if you're reading this from your fucking dirt hole, know My bravery has been tested and proven and recognized and rewarded on multiple occasions. Guaranteed if you found yourself in anyone of the fucking occasions you'd piss yourself with a snot bubble dripping down your pale fucking face. You'd never last in my world. Your pink ass would be obliterated in seconds on the streets I come from. Sign the waiver and WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME FUCKFACE)
I apologize for War & Peace. Take it for what it's worth, an opinion from who hasn't cared enough to vote since I voted for Clinton in 92(?) I have conservative opinions on law and order and liberal opinions on social views I don't care if you want to use drugs, if you're gay, I don't care if you want to take hormones to grow your biceps or to grow tits. Obviously I took one of the vaccines but kind of wish I hadn't now that more info has come in- take all that however you like.
