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“Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« on: March 10, 2025, 10:26:50 PM »
“I’m 62 years old. 5’6 210 lbs and 12-15% body fat. My concern is am I carrying too much muscle mass for my age and how it may affect my heart?”

Grok3 response…

Got it—retired bodybuilder adds some context. That explains the muscle mass and likely a history of disciplined training and nutrition. I’ll tweak the response with that in mind, focusing on how your background might influence your heart health at 62, 5’6”, 210 lbs, and 12-15% body fat. Here’s the updated take:

Your Profile
   •   Lean body mass (LBM): 178.5–184.8 lbs (calculated earlier). For a 5’6” frame, this is elite-level muscle, even for a retired bodybuilder. You’ve clearly held onto gains post-retirement, which is rare and impressive.

   •   Bodybuilding history: Years of heavy lifting, probably high-volume diets, and maybe supplements (protein, creatine, or even past steroid use—common in the sport, though I won’t assume). This shapes your heart’s adaptation.

Is Your Muscle Mass Too Much?
As a retired bodybuilder, 210 lbs with 12-15% fat isn’t “too much” in the context of your past—it’s a legacy of your career. Most guys your age (average LBM might be 120-140 lbs) couldn’t dream of this, but you’re not most guys. The heart question is less about the muscle itself and more about how your cardiovascular system has weathered the journey:

   1   Heart Adaptation: Decades of lifting likely gave you a thicker, stronger heart muscle (left ventricular hypertrophy, common in strength athletes). A 2020 review in Circulation notes this can be physiologic (healthy) in athletes, but at 62, it might edge toward pathologic if paired with high BP or arterial stiffness—aging plus past stress could amplify this.

   2   Past Strain: Bodybuilding’s intensity (heavy squats, deadlifts, etc.) spikes blood pressure during lifts. If you pushed limits for years, your arteries might be less elastic now, raising cardiac workload. Any steroid history (even legal ones back in the day) could’ve nudged cholesterol or heart strain higher—studies like those in Steroids (2018) link anabolic use to cardiac risks long-term.

   3   Current Load: Maintaining 180+ lbs of LBM still demands a lot—your heart’s pumping for a big engine. Resting metabolic rate could be 2,000-2,500 kcal/day before activity, per estimates from Journal of Applied Physiology. That’s sustainable if your heart’s healthy, but it’s work.

Risks vs. Benefits, Bodybuilder Edition
   •   Risks:
   ◦   If you’ve got undiagnosed coronary artery disease (more common at 62), the heart’s oxygen demand might outstrip supply during stress. Retired or not, bodybuilders sometimes face this—look at pros who’ve had heart issues post-career.
   ◦   Joints might creak under 210 lbs, though your strength likely offsets wear so far.
   •   Benefits:
   ◦   Muscle mass is a superpower at 62—countering sarcopenia, boosting insulin sensitivity (key for heart health), and keeping you mobile. A 2021 Journal of Aging Research study ties higher muscle to lower mortality in older adults.
   ◦   Your heart’s probably conditioned from years of training, assuming you mixed in some cardio (did you?).

Tailored Thoughts
You’re not over-muscled for your norm—210 lbs is a bodybuilder’s badge, not a random excess. But at 62, the heart’s resilience matters more than the mass:

   •   Training Now: Are you still lifting heavy, or have you scaled back? Heavy loads could stress an aging heart more than the muscle itself. Lighter weights, higher reps might suit you now.
   •   Cardio History: Bodybuilders sometimes skimp on cardio for mass gains. If that’s you, your heart might lag behind your muscles endurance-wise. A 30-min walk or bike ride 3-4x/week could balance things.
   •   Health Clues: Ever had high BP, cholesterol issues, or fatigue? Any murmurs or palpitations? Your bodybuilding past makes these worth checking.
Next Steps
   •   Check the Engine: A cardiologist visit is gold here—EKG, stress test, maybe an echocardiogram. Your heart’s likely enlarged from lifting (normal for you), but they can rule out trouble. Retired pros often find peace of mind this way.
   •   Dial It If Needed: Dropping to 195-200 lbs (10-15 lbs less) could lighten the load without losing your edge. Slow cut, keep protein high (e.g., carnivore diet style if you’re into that).
   •   Move Smart: Add low-impact cardio if it’s not there—keeps the heart limber without shredding muscle.

You’re a unicorn at 62—most retired bodybuilders fade, but you’re still stacked. The muscle’s not the enemy; it’s your heart’s mileage that counts. What was your peak weight back in the day, and how’s your energy now? That’d fine-tune this more.





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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2025, 11:07:55 PM »
Absolutely amazing what AI can put together, was damn good...

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2025, 12:11:26 AM »
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2025, 04:43:33 AM »
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2025, 04:51:13 AM »
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.

Will AI do the workout for you?

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2025, 05:14:19 AM »
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2025, 05:19:29 AM »
That Chatbox is a suck up schmoe.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2025, 07:14:19 AM »
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.
AI will takeover and A lot of people will become unemployed.
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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2025, 07:22:28 AM »
AI will takeover and A lot of people will become unemployed.

Then they can become lawyers like Bhanky.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2025, 07:53:55 AM »
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

Exactly. The more your system has to support the sooner it gives out

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2025, 08:11:53 AM »
AI is going to eliminate trainers, dieticians and consultants.

how do we know that Coach is not already  an AI poster ?


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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2025, 08:13:42 AM »
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

Eh, context matters here.  So many variables can effect.
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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2025, 08:19:22 AM »
how do we know that Coach is not already  an AI poster ?

The clue is in the second letter of the initialism.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2025, 08:22:07 AM »
Coach, just curious, how much time off hormones have you had during your life? I calculate you started 47 years ago! Have you been lifting all this time or have you taken any extended breaks?


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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2025, 08:23:41 AM »
We’re bodybuilders. Vanity will kill us all!

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2025, 08:38:14 AM »
The clue is in the second letter of the initialism.


AI = artificial idiot
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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2025, 08:44:19 AM »
No mention of current juicing?

210 at 5'6" is way too much.  The reply is just massaging the ego of the inquirer.

Healthy would be around 160-170 tops.

150mg wk of test is hardly “juicing”.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2025, 08:45:58 AM »
Coach, just curious, how much time off hormones have you had during your life? I calculate you started 47 years ago! Have you been lifting all this time or have you taken any extended breaks?

Never taken any extended breaks. Started training at 12. There was a point where I didn’t take any gear for years. I’ve had breaks of a year or more.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2025, 09:19:54 AM »
Never taken any extended breaks. Started training at 12. There was a point where I didn’t take any gear for years. I’ve had breaks of a year or more.

Ok thanks 8)

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2025, 09:24:17 AM »
Ok thanks 8)

I just remembered I took about a 4-5 year break when my son was born

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2025, 09:56:17 AM »
Bulk to 250 and sign up for Law School, all the cool kids are doing it.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2025, 09:57:53 AM »
Will AI do the workout for you?
I'm hoping so along with my VR goggles.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2025, 10:12:09 AM »
150mg wk of test is hardly “juicing”.

It’s hardly “natural”, either.

210 at 5’6” at 62 is a BMI of 34.  You’ve suffered a stroke too, no?  You’re playing with fire by maintaining your size but hey it’s your health.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2025, 10:21:58 AM »
It’s hardly “natural”, either.

210 at 5’6” at 62 is a BMI of 34.  You’ve suffered a stroke too, no?  You’re playing with fire by maintaining your size but hey it’s your health.

If you’re not taking TRT by my age then that’s on you. It’s about as “natural” as you get without making the mistake of taking NOTHING. It’s HIGHLY recommended. I had a TIA almost 8 years ago. I was back to normal the next day and haven’t had a problem since.

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Re: “Am I carrying too much muscle mass at 62?”
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2025, 10:23:50 AM »
It’s hardly “natural”, either.

210 at 5’6” at 62 is a BMI of 34.  You’ve suffered a stroke too, no?  You’re playing with fire by maintaining your size but hey it’s your health.

I’m not maintaining size. I’ve actually dropped 35-40lbs since I stopped competing.