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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2025, 10:46:22 AM »
Oil prices spike whenever there's a hot conflict - or war - in the ME.  However, Israel did not target Iran's oil refineries, infrastructure, etc.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Iran-Says-No-Damage-to-Oil-Facilities-From-Israeli-Strikes.html

Yeah I was thinking if they close the strait of Hormuz like everyone has assumed they would in case of war. We'll see what happens. The US will want to take the oil of course so don't hit that :D

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2025, 10:50:04 AM »
Yeah I was thinking if they close the strait of Hormuz like everyone has assumed they would in case of war. We'll see what happens. The US will want to take the oil of course so don't hit that :D

you are right and if that straight is threatened they will just send in a air craft carrier navy strike fleet.  and some nuclear subs

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2025, 10:55:24 AM »
to be fair here , even if iran had a nuke i seriously doubt they would use it, it would be the assurance of them getting completely wiped off the map.   putin has been threatining to use nukes for what three years now he wont. i doubt most of the russian nukes even work. the maintenance on nukes is very tedious and expensive as well.

Yeah like I said Iran using a nuke would be suicide.

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"Russia is estimated to have around 5,580 nuclear warheads, according to various sources like the Federation of American Scientists (FAS). This includes both strategic and non-strategic warheads, some of which are deployed and others retired but largely intact."

Assuming Russia doesn't have capabilities would be insanity. Look at what they've done with the Oreshnik, experts say they are far ahead in missile tech from what I've seen. The US doesn't even have hypersonic ballistic missiles. I saw some podcast with an MIT professor expert in missiles who said the planned US Golden Dome cannot be achieved, there's no defense against these missiles. Even if they could shoot one warhead there are many decoys in every nuke so you have like one chance in 20 to guess the right one. The project is a grift for the military-industrial complex. That's what I heard, I know nothing myself :

you are right and if that straight is threatened they will just send in a air craft carrier navy strike fleet.  and some nuclear subs

Wouldn't that mean it will be closed regardless? I don't know exactly what the Iranians could do, they might be able to mine the whole area quickly? Or bomb it themselves? Didn't countries in the ME set aflame their own oil too?

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2025, 12:16:51 PM »
to be fair here , even if iran had a nuke i seriously doubt they would use it, it would be the assurance of them getting completely wiped off the map.   putin has been threatining to use nukes for what three years now he wont. i doubt most of the russian nukes even work. the maintenance on nukes is very tedious and expensive as well.

Same reason as North Korea.

So no one attacks them.

And they deliberately promote themselves as if they're crazy enough to use them.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2025, 12:41:15 PM »
Same reason as North Korea.

So no one attacks them.

And they deliberately promote themselves as if they're crazy enough to use them.

I think it's The Chosen who are the most likely to use them. I'm actually nervous now.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2025, 12:43:00 PM »
Whatever is going and whatever you're feeling, just remember one thing.

Never bet against America


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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2025, 12:54:40 PM »
Whatever is going and whatever you're feeling, just remember one thing.

Never bet against America



As long as the US maintains the technological advantage in weapon development and innovation, they will remain in the lead.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2025, 01:59:58 PM »
Direct Hit in "Tel Aviv"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ik5G1C3pyqlN

Iran can destroy Israel with conventional weapons. No need for nukes. As others have mentioned, Israel has a small footprint.

Just remember, Israel attacked Iran first. And they launched the last attack in 2024, Iran did not retaliate then, because they were waiting to see what happens with Trump.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #58 on: June 13, 2025, 02:06:46 PM »
Whatever is going and whatever you're feeling, just remember one thing.

Never bet against America


my dad had $100 on Vietnam...

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #59 on: June 13, 2025, 02:13:58 PM »
my dad had $100 on Vietnam...
Who won? Some say Vietnam won.  ;D

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2025, 02:17:12 PM »
you are right and if that straight is threatened they will just send in a air craft carrier navy strike fleet.  and some nuclear subs
Aircraft carriers are sitting ducks—Iran has the capability to strike them. Submarines are a different story.

But here’s the irony: nuking Iran would only prove why Iran felt it needed nukes in the first place.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2025, 02:22:09 PM »
It was the right call. Saved millions of Japanese and US casualties.

Concerning the Roman Empire, the US and much of the West are probably nearing 400 AD territory...
I know they were prepared to drop a third nuke if Japan did not surrender. And here's a link that claims they planned to drop 12. Not sure if it is legit.

That would have killed millions.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-planned-to-drop-12-atomic-bombs-on-japan/

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2025, 02:31:23 PM »
obsidian, the Russia Today mouthpiece conveniently sidesteps the fact that the destruction of Israel is enshrined Iranian policy.

Funny how ‘destruction of Israel is policy’ gets repeated like gospel, but nobody mentions Israel actually attacked Iran first—multiple times in 2024. Iran responded, then didn’t retaliate after the last one. Now Israel strikes again in June 2025.
If anyone’s acting on a ‘destruction policy,’ it sure doesn’t look like Iran.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2025, 02:59:27 PM »
Whatever is going and whatever you're feeling, just remember one thing.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2025, 03:08:36 PM »
my dad had $100 on Vietnam...
Who won? Some say Vietnam won.  ;D

You really think winning wars against countries who are no danger to the US is ever the actual goal?

It's the ability to distract and pull the wool over peoples eyes that will keep America at the top.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2025, 03:15:19 PM »
I do not have  a horse in this race,but Trump did say to Jew to do not attack Iran and Jew did so anyways knowing America will support Jews.
Trump should left Jews on their own and not to get involved.He will look like Jew puppet now.
Once alpha leader  becomes Jew  sucking beta if he doesn’t push Netanyahu against the wall.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2025, 03:53:27 PM »
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The timing of Israel's plan to attack Iran was top secret. But Washington pizza delivery trackers guessed something was up before the first bombs fell.

About an hour before Iranian state TV first reported loud explosions in Tehran, pizza orders around the Pentagon went through the roof, according to a viral X account claiming to offer "hot intel" on "late-night activity spikes" at the US military headquarters.

Not confining its analysis to pizza, the account noted three hours later that a gay bar near the Pentagon had "abnormally low traffic for a Thursday night," and said this probably pointed to "a busy night at the Pentagon."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pizza-delivery-monitor-alerts-to-secret-israel-attack/ar-AA1GFvCx?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=7202e77f85334f24a87e271f196dfc8b&ei=14

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2025, 03:58:32 PM »
Who won? Some say Vietnam won.  ;D

American never lost a major battle in Vietnam. 58,200 US troops dead compared to 1.1 Million NVA. America ' lost ' a PR war and we should've never been there to begin with just like Iraq.


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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2025, 04:04:03 PM »
You really think winning wars against countries who are no danger to the US is ever the actual goal?

It's the ability to distract and pull the wool over peoples eyes that will keep America at the top.

Never bet against the worlds best psychopaths. Also known as corporate America


Correct. It was a rhetorical question.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2025, 04:06:41 PM »
American never lost a major battle in Vietnam. 58,200 US troops dead compared to 1.1 Million NVA. America ' lost ' a PR war and we should've never been there to begin with just like Iraq.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/fragging-vietnam-war

Fragging: When Soldiers In Vietnam Revolted Against Their Officers By Murdering Them With Grenades

As the Vietnam War dragged on, soldiers began to see the war as unjust and unwinnable, leading to openly mutinous behavior.

By way of a “fragmentation grenade,” from which the term “fragging” was derived, a soldier could effectively do away with an officer without leaving any evidence. Because the shell of the grenade was destroyed, any fingerprints were destroyed with it. Individual grenades were also not given unique serial numbers, so any effort to trace the murder weapon back to the murderer was unlikely.

Fragging attacks were usually retaliation for some disciplinary action, although they were also sometimes a convenient means for worried troops to get rid of an officer they thought was incompetent.

Targets were sometimes even given a warning in the form of a grenade with their names painted on it, planted in their sleeping quarters with the safety pin still in.

Over the course of the entire Vietnam War, there were 800 documented fragging attempts in the Army and Marine Corps. By another account, over 1,000 such incidents were thought to have occurred. Between 1969 and 1970 alone, the U.S. Army reported 305 fraggings.

The true number of fragging incidents, however, may never be known. This is partly because the attacks themselves make it difficult to determine which were deliberate and partly because, in an attempt to spare the victims’ families further pain, the Army did not officially report the true cause of death of some of the officers.


The United State officially ended its involvement in Vietnam in 1973, along with its military draft. The end of the war also marked the end of the fragging epidemic, something which some historians speculate is not unrelated to the end of the draft.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2025, 04:08:33 PM »
I read that Iran has downed 2-4 Israeli F-35 jets. Most likely US tax payers paid for those.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-claims-it-has-shot-down-four-israeli-jets-as-it-fires-missiles-in-response-to-fridays-attacks-13383379

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2025, 04:12:23 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pizza-delivery-monitor-alerts-to-secret-israel-attack/ar-AA1GFvCx?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=7202e77f85334f24a87e271f196dfc8b&ei=14

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Not confining its analysis to pizza, the account noted three hours later that a gay bar near the Pentagon had "abnormally low traffic for a Thursday night," and said this probably pointed to "a busy night at the Pentagon."
LMFAO!

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2025, 04:21:21 PM »

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2025, 04:46:21 PM »
I bet that Lindsey Graham fag is creaming his panties right now


Lmao. Not sure why this is so funny 😂