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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #125 on: June 16, 2025, 05:47:02 AM »
Obsidian is a good dude.  I enjoy our chats on finance and AI subjects.  His political views need work though.   :)    However, in this case he is not wrong.

You can't live by a Rules For Thee, None For Me attitude for so long and not expect it to catch up with you. 

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #126 on: June 16, 2025, 06:53:24 AM »
Shalom, fellow non jews - what to do now?
Since, by pure coincidence, we're full to the brink of the same "natural" enemies shouldn't we join the brave fight and march to Jerusalem...

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #127 on: June 16, 2025, 08:55:07 AM »
Pakistan depends on international support for its conflicts with India. I don't think they'd involve themselves in a meaningful way.

China and Russia might give arms and intelligence, but I doubt they'd do more than that.
Pakistan does have nukes though so that's probably why they entered the conversation.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #128 on: June 16, 2025, 09:24:13 AM »
This is pure gold!






The pieces of interior and the dust make that epic video complete hahaha

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #129 on: June 16, 2025, 11:04:21 AM »
:D

You might laugh, but Pakistan possesses roughly 170 nuclear warheads and has conducted six nuclear tests. It shares a border with Iran, making logistical support—by land or air—a very real possibility. If Israel were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, Pakistan could supply Iran with nuclear weapons under the justification of collective self-defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #130 on: June 16, 2025, 11:26:24 AM »
You might laugh, but Pakistan possesses roughly 170 nuclear warheads and has conducted six nuclear tests. It shares a border with Iran, making logistical support—by land or air—a very real possibility. If Israel were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, Pakistan could supply Iran with nuclear weapons under the justification of collective self-defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

Israel doesn’t need to use nukes. This will be settled shortly.

Iran’s only card is the Straight of Hormuz but if it messes with that it will become completely isolated and countries like China, who need Iran’s oil, will tell it to stand down or its current leadership will not be part of the picture going forward (assuming they’re still alive by the end of this week). The rational actors have no time for Iran’s nonsense.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #131 on: June 16, 2025, 11:52:01 AM »
This is pure gold!






The pieces of interior and the dust make that epic video complete hahaha


Ha Ha Ha Allah just said FUCK YOU.  ;D

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #132 on: June 16, 2025, 12:20:27 PM »
Israel doesn’t need to use nukes. This will be settled shortly.

Iran’s only card is the Straight of Hormuz but if it messes with that it will become completely isolated and countries like China, who need Iran’s oil, will tell it to stand down or its current leadership will not be part of the picture going forward (assuming they’re still alive by the end of this week). The rational actors have no time for Iran’s nonsense.

And Israel doesn't need the US either? In no way are they right now begging the US to enter the war in an offensive way? No way are the neocons in congress agitating for US interference like rabid dogs? Israel is probably completely calm and can sustain a war of attrition... no need for nukes... Israeli public is just as comfortable with being bombed and just as willing to sacrifice, as Iran. Israel is completely self sufficient, doesn't need outside help at all, the defensive Iron dome missiles will last a long time :D

“The ‘forever war’ is what Iran wants, and they’re bringing us to the brink of nuclear war. In fact, what Israel is doing is preventing this, bringing an end to this aggression,”

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I think Trump is being set up as the fall guy if he doesn't enter the war, thereby putting enormous pressure on him. Everyone has always predicted Israel will need the goyim to fight their future war with Iran. We'll see...

BTW, in one article above it says Iranians are celebrating and using Starlink that has been activated, now finally getting "freedom." It's ridiculous, Israel has a total media blackout, it's forbidden to film missile crash sites. Even with the Palestine issue, Israeli media has to clear all articles on it by censors. "Freedom" ::) The fog of war is heavy all around, difficult to get accurate info.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #133 on: June 16, 2025, 02:03:35 PM »

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #134 on: June 16, 2025, 02:38:28 PM »
You might laugh, but Pakistan possesses roughly 170 nuclear warheads and has conducted six nuclear tests. It shares a border with Iran, making logistical support—by land or air—a very real possibility. If Israel were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, Pakistan could supply Iran with nuclear weapons under the justification of collective self-defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

This is true.  However, Pakistan will not do anything as it would just draw India into the conflict.  And THIS (Paki-Inida) is where WW3 will really start.  None of this Iran or China or NK bullshit.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #135 on: June 16, 2025, 02:59:56 PM »
This is true.  However, Pakistan will not do anything as it would just draw India into the conflict.  And THIS (Paki-Inida) is where WW3 will really start.  None of this Iran or China or NK bullshit.

How do you know? Your a prophet?

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #136 on: June 16, 2025, 04:13:55 PM »
This is true.  However, Pakistan will not do anything as it would just draw India into the conflict.  And THIS (Paki-Inida) is where WW3 will really start.  None of this Iran or China or NK bullshit.
How do you know? Your a prophet?

Speaking of prophesy, both Jewish and American Evangelical Christian eschatology centers around a strong Israel, when Israel dominates the messianic age can come for the Jews, and Armageddon can commence for the Christians. It's prophesied. Wars for Israel and ethnic cleansing of Amalek is mandated by God. Jews may be atheist but still believe God gave them Israel. Therefore I fear wars like this with Iran can precipitate WWIII, when you believe God has sanctioned these actions dangerous things can happen. It sounds ridiculous but some on this forum say they support Israel due their Christian faith.

And you have this:

Quote from: wiki
The Samson Option (Hebrew: ברירת שמשון, romanized: b'rerat shimshon) is Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel.[1] Commentators also have employed the term to refer to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors have threatened conventional weapons retaliation.[2]

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #138 on: June 16, 2025, 07:52:24 PM »
Trump says Tehran should evacuate. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/trump-urges-tehran-evacuation-iran-israel-conflict-enters-fifth-day-2025-06-17/

Doesn't sound good at all to me.


Bannon says the Iran war, all the forever wars, are Deep State ideas. Ending forever wars is a central tenet of Trumpism. But what are we heading towards? Bannon thinks the coming 200 days are critical.