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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2025, 11:21:02 AM »
This is true.  If anything it is going to increase the inflammation and tendonitis if you have that.

Best thing to do is just get a notebook and start a log when you in the gym of each exercise that hurts/where it hurts/which ones don't.  And use the process of elimination to plan a routine around the ones that are pain free. 

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2025, 12:06:25 PM »
So I’m 44 years old and in relatively good shape. For the last two and a half years I’ve been lifting “heavy” to try and build back some of my muscle/build of up to my mid to late thirties. I had an incident with my back in 2018 that set me back, and then Covid really changed my work out dynamic. I’m not as strong as I was at 35 but I’m stronger than I was 5 years ago even though I’ve somewhat plateaued. My muscles feel strong but my joints are hurting when I do heavy bench and heavy squats. Again, not huge weight but certainly more than I was doing post injury. My question is, do you older guys have routines that allow you to keep the muscle mass and lift lighter weights? I’m worried I might injure myself if I continue lifting for bulk, but would like to keep what I have as I feel I can hold onto it for another few years at least. Thanks in advance.

I'm carrying the most muscle I've ever had at 57 and natty. Started getting shoulder and hip pain from lifting (relatively) heavy. Do a lot of pre-exhaust now and more sets and reps at a lighter weight. Works great for me.
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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2025, 12:35:01 PM »
As long as there is no nagging/crippling tendonitis you should be good. Don't ignore it like me.

I blew my patellar tendon of the kneecap 5 months ago.... But rehab has been working out well and am back squatting a plate a side now. Will not give up untill Im back squatting 315 for atg reps. Plan is to keep adding 5 kg every week on the squatbar.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2025, 01:09:21 PM »
stop lifting heavy, just do a pump workout and take some test, you will look and feel much better and you wont hurt yourself

Agreed.  Size and strength is a young man’s game. As you get older you will have other priorities such as longevity, mobility, and overall health.  Worrying about phlebitis (deep vein thrombosis) or plotting your first hip replacement is not something you want in your future.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2025, 01:46:01 PM »
Use higher reps, maybe less sets depending on your recovery genetics. Enough weight to give you stimuli, keeping injuries away.
The biggest challenge is going to be the "heavy lifting" mindset. We all have been there.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2025, 01:55:35 PM »
Use higher reps, maybe less sets depending on your recovery genetics. Enough weight to give you stimuli, keeping injuries away.
The biggest challenge is going to be the "heavy lifting" mindset. We all have been there.

As long as due care is taken, proper warm ups, no ego lifting etc why not try to maintain as good a level of strength as one can whether natural or on trt if one enjoys heavy lifting why give it up due to all these fears.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2025, 01:55:57 PM »
Agreed.  Size and strength is a young man’s game. As you get older you will have other priorities such as longevity, mobility, and overall health.  Worrying about phlebitis (deep vein thrombosis) or plotting your first hip replacement is not something you want in your future.

Size may be, strength is not.

Yes, mobility and overall health is important, but you can still train heavy forever if you're smart about it.

EDIT: Just saw what Ro said above - agree.
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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2025, 02:02:48 PM »
As long as due care is taken, proper warm ups, no ego lifting etc why not try to maintain as good a level of strength as one can whether natural or on trt if one enjoys heavy lifting why give it up due to all these fears.

Speaking from my own experience. Even when young, everytime i pushed my limits, injury happened. Now at 48, i am not better at that, and i am getting enough results with moderate loads. A more mature approach.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2025, 02:19:22 PM »
I did squats to parallel or slightly less

Got 90 pounds for 6 and that was near failure 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2025, 02:25:28 PM »
This is true.  If anything it is going to increase the inflammation and tendonitis if you have that.

Best thing to do is just get a notebook and start a log when you in the gym of each exercise that hurts/where it hurts/which ones don't.  And use the process of elimination to plan a routine around the ones that are pain free.

This.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2025, 02:25:44 PM »
I did squats to parallel or slightly less

Got 90 pounds for 6 and that was near failure 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

What the hell my girlfriend is stronger than that.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2025, 06:08:40 PM »
Take  more ibuprofen! I'm joking. But that's what many do when older, and even a doc might recommend that. There were a few studies that appeared to show that ibuprofen was anabolic in old people but what was likely happening was that the drug was allowing them to lift so their muscle and strength increased as a result. So on balance the drug might have been beneficial (if organs aren't crying).

When older work capacity is reduced and you just can't tolerate as much volume and frequency. I like what others have said about higher reps and lower loads not necessarily helping, the added volume might increase inflammation. I would suggest for example is to keep a "heavy" squat type movement in the routine and do say just 2 heavy sets of 5 once a week. I might be enough to keep and sometimes even increase your strength. Choose a squat type movement that causes the least pain. It's surprising how little volume you need for strength. If lower back is causing issues don't do a ton of bent over rows but choose a chest supported row instead, so as not to add irritating volume to your routine.

I was at my strongest after 40 (in my profile pic, I was lifting just once a week). Then covid came. Now at 48 I'm as strong as ever on some movements but not at peak in whole body moves, but not giving up.

I bought naproxen yesterday for my lower back, already feeling better :D

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #38 on: Today at 12:57:46 AM »
Ibuprofen is aweful for the gut.

Do you mean deadlifting once a week or only weight lifting once a week?

At 48 are you on trt now or still doing cycles?

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #39 on: Today at 02:03:23 AM »
Ibuprofen is aweful for the gut.

Do you mean deadlifting once a week or only weight lifting once a week?

At 48 are you on trt now or still doing cycles?

I was lifting just once a week, deadlifts and a couple of other movements, could be a pulldown, hamstring curl plus calves. I was letting gear do the work/maintain and even increase strength. Now I'm doing test plus a little something extra sometimes, have different things in my shoe box I keep for gear. But now I lift a little most days :D

Ibuprofen can be tough on the gut. I found that if I take omeprazol with it from the first dose I can use it for a couple of weeks without problems. This naproxen I just started sometimes gave me extreme gut pain back in the day, like thinking I was dying. My old training partner used diklofenak one day for more than two decades straight, his liver and kidney values were normal. He was riddled with injuries but just kept lifting through everything, being a comp powerlifter.


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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #40 on: Today at 03:12:39 AM »
What the hell my girlfriend is stronger than that.

At least I'm honest

They were wide stance ones

I'll work up to a buck 35 for 6 (if I can go that high 😂😂😂) and just stay there

Gotta keep my 27 inch ballerina waist and I can't afford to gain much more weight seeing as I gotta by within sticking distance of making the 148's

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #41 on: Today at 03:23:31 AM »
Never start doing bench presses, squats, deadlifts, and overhead presses in your life... just machines, cables, and dumbbells.
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Re: Question for older getbiggers
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Re: Question for older getbiggers
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I was lifting just once a week, deadlifts and a couple of other movements, could be a pulldown, hamstring curl plus calves. I was letting gear do the work/maintain and even increase strength. Now I'm doing test plus a little something extra sometimes, have different things in my shoe box I keep for gear. But now I lift a little most days :D

Ibuprofen can be tough on the gut. I found that if I take omeprazol with it from the first dose I can use it for a couple of weeks without problems. This naproxen I just started sometimes gave me extreme gut pain back in the day, like thinking I was dying. My old training partner used diklofenak one day for more than two decades straight, his liver and kidney values were normal. He was riddled with injuries but just kept lifting through everything, being a comp powerlifter.

I use etoricoxib or celecoxib, anti-inflammatories which are COX-2 inhibitors, they are selective anti-inflammatories and have a much reduced effect on COX-1, if at all, which is what causes gut issues.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #44 on: Today at 05:12:48 AM »
Mods, can we move this thread? It is clearly bodybuilding related.

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #45 on: Today at 05:32:11 AM »
At least I'm honest

They were wide stance ones

I'll work up to a buck 35 for 6 (if I can go that high 😂😂😂) and just stay there

Gotta keep my 27 inch ballerina waist and I can't afford to gain much more weight seeing as I gotta by within sticking distance of making the 148's
135. see how much easier your life would be?

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #46 on: Today at 07:54:12 AM »
Haney's claimed lack of injury may be due to his natural structure and genetics.
Many of the old school guys have had hip replacements and shoulder surgeries.
His assertion that old school 70s and 80s bodybuilders did not have injuries is false but they did not get the same high frequency of pec tears as todays, likely because of excessive and constant drug use which makes muscle strength rapidly exceed connective tissue strength.
Modern bodybuilders often go on drugs right away before having built up connective tissues.

Haney doing the behind neck press with 225 and suicide grip:

https://thebarbell.com/lee-haney-workout/



“I’ve always gone behind the neck for pullups, pulldowns, and shoulder presses, and I’ve never had any shoulder problems. I go to the front on those exercises, too, but it actually feels more comfortable to me to go behind the neck than in front. And I think the contraction in my inner traps is a key reason for my upper back thickness.”

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #47 on: Today at 08:09:01 AM »
I did squats to parallel or slightly less

Got 90 pounds for 6 and that was near failure 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Fine.

If you did 5-8 sets of 3 each week, then added 5lbs each time, you'd be at 150 early fall.  200+ by year's end.

I tore a pronator muscle in my arm, and decided to reset my squat doing this exact thing, going fully down.  5lbs a week has been linear since March, and the only supplemental work I'm doing is some slant board goblets, and reverse hypers.  I'll ride it until it stops.
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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #48 on: Today at 08:45:29 AM »
Fine.

If you did 5-8 sets of 3 each week, then added 5lbs each time, you'd be at 150 early fall.  200+ by year's end.

I tore a pronator muscle in my arm, and decided to reset my squat doing this exact thing, going fully down.  5lbs a week has been linear since March, and the only supplemental work I'm doing is some slant board goblets, and reverse hypers.  I'll ride it until it stops.

I don't mind doing them but there's 2 things I'm concerned bout with them

1. Making my waist thicker and wider (I've asked a few on the Tube bout this and they said it's not gonna happen, both Haney and Bumstead and they had very small waists)

2. Can't afford to gain much more weight as I gotta stay within striking distance of the 48's I know I can make it from 57 and my limit is most likely somewhere between 60-62 now I'm 55 at 6-7% so 60-62 at 4-5% would give me room to add 7-9 more pounds of lean dry tissue

Also I gotta find out if you can weigh in the night before, some meets only have the weigh in 3-4 hours before and if that's the case I can weigh somewhere between 53-55

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Re: Question for older getbiggers
« Reply #49 on: Today at 08:56:58 AM »
I don't mind doing them but there's 2 things I'm concerned bout with them

1. Making my waist thicker and wider (I've asked a few on the Tube bout this and they said it's not gonna happen, both Haney and Bumstead and they had very small waists)

2. Can't afford to gain much more weight as I gotta stay within striking distance of the 48's I know I can make it from 57 and my limit is most likely somewhere between 60-62 now I'm 55 at 6-7% so 60-62 at 4-5% would give me room to add 7-9 more pounds of lean dry tissue

Also I gotta find out if you can weigh in the night before, some meets only have the weigh in 3-4 hours before and if that's the case I can weigh somewhere between 53-55

You won't gain weight from doing this and your waist will be fine.
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