off cycle

[dj181]

You can probably find posts of mine here from 15-20 years ago saying test, tren and anadrol is the trifecta, I actually used that word I'm pretty sure

But it doesn't really matter, you have to stick to something for a prolonged time. If you feel better on test, deca and dbol then it's "better" for you. Whatever helps your mind and performance best. There's really no "best" anything, it's personal and situational.

But yes from my experience and observation that stack is hard to beat. It could be too harsh and make you feel absolute shit, no appetite, mind fucked with suicidal ideations LOL and then it's no good, unless you still get amazing workouts, fuck not wanting to live then. Tren never really shone as a strength compound for me but the recomp is impressive (whatever little recomp I got with my genetics, but you get the point). Some say add a high dose trestolone/MENT to that, while maybe dropping the test dosage, and you'll transform in days but now were getting into dangerrous territory. Don't try this at home

I have said to some guys they are idiots for not at least trying Anadrol on preps, say 6-8 weeks out, but it's always about that damn Winstrol, Winstrol, Winstrol...


Edit. Found this at least but it's only a few weeks old LOL

Ima swap.deca for tren as you saw within the mail I sent you comparing my results on 200 test and DECA to 200 test and var

DECA is my aesthetic #1 FUCKIING COMPOUND

[Van_Bilderass]

Ima swap.

Hopeless

 

[Grape Ape]

Hopeless

 

Dude can't do anything consistently.

[IroNat]

dj is overeating.

He needs to reduce daily calories under 500.

[dj181]

Dude can't do anything consistently.

You have to take into account my narcissism

I just found out that DECA is a much much better aesthetic compound for me than var

I can send you the pics by mail to prove it

My brain has locked into this and I will run deca and test til the day I die

I can't let my beautiful aesthetics by denied

My black friend in saint Petersburg told me like 3 times that my face was more handsome while I was running A-bombs so I should put them back in but.....

Beautiful body trumps handsome face

If I have enough cash after I but DECA WHICH IS REQUIRED ill buy abombs which is optional

[Grape Ape]

lol ok.

But you'd be surprised what would happen if you didn't train like a retard and set stupid goals.

You wouldn't need all the drugs to bench 135.

[dj181]

lol ok.

But you'd be surprised what would happen if you didn't train like a retard and set stupid goals.

You wouldn't need all the drugs to bench 135.

Just did push today and guess what??

Pressing went down, but.... I got stronger on Pressdowns and laterals

I do Pressdowns 3 ways reverse, normal and bent over

I increased weight reps on each move😉

So I can train tris and delts every 3 days but pressing? NOPE

Beautiful little tune hell yeah!!!!!

[Grape Ape]

Just did push today and guess what??

Pressing went down, but.... I got stronger on Pressdowns and laterals

I do Pressdowns 3 ways reverse, normal and bent over

I increased weight reps on each move😉

So I can train tris and delts every 3 days but pressing? NOPE

Beautiful little tune hell yeah!!!!!

Daily fluctuations happen all the time. 

Obsessing about it is useless.

Linear progression isn't a straight line.

[dj181]

Daily fluctuations happen all the time. 

Obsessing about it is useless.

Linear progression isn't a straight line.

If I get progressively stronger over time in the Pressdowns that is saying something

Ai gave me a breakdown on a cycle I'm thinking bout


Alright — let’s make a realistic projection for 4–6 weeks on:

Stack: 500 mg Deca + 200 mg Test/week + 100 mg Anadrol/day
Current stats: 70 kg, 4% body fat, 56 years old


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1. Deca + Test baseline

Deca and Test alone give slow, steady lean gains: ~0.25–0.5 kg/week for someone already advanced and lean.

Over 4–6 weeks, that’s roughly 1–3 kg of lean mass.



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2. Adding Anadrol

Anadrol is fast-acting, gives rapid size and water retention: ~1–2 kg/week in total weight (muscle + water) even for advanced users.

Over 4–6 weeks, that’s ~4–8 kg gained, but a portion is water and glycogen, not pure muscle.



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3. Combined estimate

Total weight gain (lean + water): ~5–10 kg

Lean muscle gain portion: ~2–4 kg (Deca/Test contributing slowly, Anadrol a smaller portion actual tissue)

Water/glycogen: ~3–6 kg (mostly Anadrol effect)

End weight estimate: 75–80 kg total, likely closer to 77–78 kg including water retention

Body fat: May slightly rise if water retention is counted, but actual fat gain should be minimal at 4–5% if diet is controlled



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Takeaways

Noticeable size and fullness in 4–6 weeks

Strength increases quickly (mostly from Anadrol and neural drive)

Aesthetic gains from Deca continue gradually

Face may look fuller from Anadrol, body more “dense” from Deca



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Summary after 6 weeks

Estimated total weight: 75–77 kg

Lean muscle added: ~2.5–4 kg

Water/glycogen gain: ~2.5–3 kg

Visual impact: Muscles fuller, face slightly more handsome, joints supported, strength noticeably up

[deadz]

lol ok.

But you'd be surprised what would happen if you didn't train like a retard and set stupid goals.

You wouldn't need all the drugs to bench 135.

Thats his max, what a weak, pathetic loser.