US owns 10% of intel

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good ol socialist ussa!

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Lame thread. Completely void of information and substance, would not read again.

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I haven't figured out how to post links yet.

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I haven't figured out how to post links yet.

Just copy and paste right into your reply.

What Communist country do you live in?

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Just copy and paste right into your reply.

What Communist country do you live in?

I live in comoros.

You hating on comoros?

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I live in comoros.

You hating on comoros?

Yes, fuck those little islands!

[jude2]

The US was going to give Intel monies without anything in return.  Trump caught this and said no free money.  We give you money and you have to give us stock in return.  Now the US is the biggest owner of intel. Trump continues to win.

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The US was going to give Intel monies without anything in return.  Trump caught this and said no free money.  We give you money and you have to give us stock in return.  Now the US is the biggest owner of intel. Trump continues to win.

It's socialism by definition.

They were providing semiconductors and the grant was for R and D which has a huge return on investment as intel is truly the only company in the US doing that on that level.

I am not necessarily against it, it's just counter to free enterprise

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It's socialism by definition.

I doubt that   its not clear what public interest is being served

Taking unnecessary equity stakes in private companies is opportunism — not strategic state capitalism

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I doubt that   its not clear what public interest is being served

Taking unnecessary equity stakes in private companies is opportunism — not strategic state capitalism

Ya intel is killing it! year over year losses, seems like a great investment!

The government using taxpayer money to buy shares in a company isn't socialism!

[Coach is Back!]

good ol socialist ussa!

Some people are saying taking a 10% stake for taxpayers in exchange for our financial help is socialism. It's the opposite. In capitalism, if you invest in a company you get equity. It's really that simple.

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Some people are saying taking a 10% stake for taxpayers in exchange for our financial help is socialism. It's the opposite. In capitalism, if you invest in a company you get equity. It's really that simple.

Not when its pooled resources. What if someone doesn't want their tax payer money used to buy shares in a failing tech company? They just diluted their shareholders as well, probably forced into doing so after the grant was approved. Insanity.


There is nothing capitalistic about this, it's by definition socialist. Now I am not against it per se. Just pointing it out.

He just passed another EO that says burning the american flag is a crime, a year in jail he said. Are you fine with this guy just telling you whatever he thinks goes? despite the fact that he is shitting on the constitution. Burning the flag is the right way to dispose of the flag, technically, plus its a protected form of free speech.

It sounds like he is turning you guys into an authoritarian country.

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, it's by definition socialist..

that would mean every country in the world is into socialism

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that would mean every country in the world is into socialism

How so?

I would in fact argue that pure capitalism is a phantom and is not truly practiced anywhere. We are probably more in a technocracy than anything currently, or at least heading in that direction. Capitalism has certainly been internalized as the superego in most folks, simply look at hustle culture and the championing of vita activa at all costs, even one's health.

Pooling resources to buy private company stock is a purely socialist move, not that I disagree with it. I think a fiscally responsible government could actually make some very shrewd investments with pooled capital and make some serious waves, but its not capitalism in essence.

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How so?

I would in fact argue that pure capitalism is a phantom and is not truly practiced anywhere. We are probably more in a technocracy than anything currently, or at least heading in that direction. Capitalism has certainly been internalized as the superego in most folks, simply look at hustle culture and the championing of vita activa at all costs, even one's health.

Pooling resources to buy private company stock is a purely socialist move, not that I disagree with it. I think a fiscally responsible government could actually make some very shrewd investments with pooled capital and make some serious waves, but its not capitalism in essence.

You are Right and you will do very well on this site with all the others who are always right

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You are Right and you will do very well on this site with all the others who are always right

Thank you very much.

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Not when its pooled resources. What if someone doesn't want their tax payer money used to buy shares in a failing tech company? They just diluted their shareholders as well, probably forced into doing so after the grant was approved. Insanity.

Lord gave mercy

There is nothing capitalistic about this, it's by definition socialist. Now I am not against it per se. Just pointing it out.

He just passed another EO that says burning the american flag is a crime, a year in jail he said. Are you fine with this guy just telling you whatever he thinks goes? despite the fact that he is shitting on the constitution. Burning the flag is the right way to dispose of the flag, technically, plus its a protected form of free speech.

It sounds like he is turning you guys into an authoritarian country.

Only liberals would be against jail time for desecrating the American flag while caling for jail time for burning an LGBTQ flag. Twisted thinking.

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Only liberals would be against jail time for desecrating the American flag while caling for jail time for burning an LGBTQ flag. Twisted thinking.

While I like the spirit of it, I disagree with passing this EO.

Feels too infringe-y on the FA.

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Only liberals would be against jail time for desecrating the American flag while caling for jail time for burning an LGBTQ flag. Twisted thinking.

I am a centrist, I did not say anything about LGBTQ or whatever.

You should not get fucking jailtime for burning the flag ffs lolol what is this nazi germany? burn all the flags, the fag flags, the nazi flags, american etc its free speech. You can't start taking away rights.

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While I like the spirit of it, I disagree with passing this EO.

Feels too infringe-y on the FA.

It's a clear violation and a slippery slope. You gonna jail a veteran for burning the flag if he feels he hasn't been taken care of properly?

Coach is team Right, no matter what!

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It's a clear violation and a slippery slope. You gonna jail a veteran for burning the flag if he feels he hasn't been taken care of properly?

Coach is team Right, no matter what!

Coach does not hide his political affiliation. But his point about it being illegal to burn one kind of flag but not the American flag is a valid point as well.  Like I said, I don’t like flag burning, but I support the right to do it under the first amendment - however, you gotta treat them all equally.

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Coach does not hide his political affiliation. But his point about it being illegal to burn one kind of flag but not the American flag is a valid point as well.  Like I said, I don’t like flag burning, but I support the right to do it under the first amendment - however, you gotta treat them all equally.

Like you, I also support the First amendment. BTW, Coach is mistaken, it is not illegal to burn a LGBTQ or Pride flag.

[illuminati]

Let's hope all queer & gbltqzxvkg Flags are Burnt all over the world,
Get rid of the Stupid things.

[Coach is Back!]

True Patriots don’t burn or desecrate the American flag. It’s why we don’t let it touch the ground when handling it. It’s why there’s a certain way of folding it and displaying it. It’s why we give the American flag to our fallen soldiers and service members that have passed away.

The only ones that burn and desecrate the flag are the same ones that are against our freedoms and this country. That being said, yes, they should be prosecuted.

Prime.. Hate crime laws: If the act is intended to intimidate or target a protected group, it could be prosecuted as a hate crime in some jurisdictions, depending on local laws and the context (e.g., burning an LGBTQ flag outside a community center with threatening intent). This law alone is hypocritical

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True Patriots don’t burn or desecrate the American flag. It’s why we don’t let it touch the ground when handling it. It’s why there’s a certain way of folding it and displaying it. It’s why we give the American flag to our fallen soldiers and service members that have passed away.

The only ones that burn and desecrate the flag are the same ones that are against our freedoms and this country. That being said, yes, they should be prosecuted.

Prime.. Hate crime laws: If the act is intended to intimidate or target a protected group, it could be prosecuted as a hate crime in some jurisdictions, depending on local laws and the context (e.g., burning an LGBTQ flag outside a community center with threatening intent). This law alone is hypocritical

Based on your logic, true patriots never protest. But then, anyone whose political views differ from yours is not a patriot in your mind. In fact, you have repeatedly called us communists, and worse.

Flag desecration, is an act which has been ruled as protected free speech by the Supreme Court. Which Trump's OA does not address. Therefore, his OA violates First Amendment rights and the rule of the Supreme Court.

It is no surprise to me that you find these hate crime laws hypocritical.

Burning the flag and desecrating it are not the same thing. Note: Trump's OA does not alter the U.S. Flag Code, which endorses dignified burning as the preferred method for retiring a worn-out flag.

* Title 4, U.S. Code, Section 8(k) states: "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning".

* Many patriotic and veterans organizations hold official ceremonies for this purpose. The ceremony is not an act of protest but one of reverence for the flag and what it represents.

* Veterans often burn the American flag as part of a formal flag retirement ceremony to show respect for the flag and honor the service of those who protected it.

FYI, when I retire the American flag, I donate it to an organization such as the American legion, or the Salvation Army. I have never burned a flag in my life, much less the American flag.