RFK Jr announce ALL DOCTORS Must Learn PROPER NUTRITION

[Van_Bilderass]

A high carb diet (typical Western diet) causes high insulin production which makes the body store fat and and ultimately results in a failing pancreas and diabetes.

Insulin in itself might not be the problem. GLP-1 drugs increase insulin secretion in diabetics but lower weight, for example

Insulin causing obesity is faulty logic IMO. I was eating at least 400 grams of plain sugar a day and my abdominal skinfolds got so thin they couldn't even administer a subq injection at hospital. Now post-hospital I added both basal and meal insulin, gained about 17lbs so far and skinfolds are the same

[Grape Ape]

The big problem is that even if the docs receive more 'proper' nutrition education no one will believe that it's actually correct. Getbiggers won't even agree to how one should eat. People here and everywhere on the net rail against the FDA recs but I don't think they are necessarily so bad, like currently. Some getbiggers think it recommends too much protein for example, .8 grams per kilo body weight to sustain optimal health, saying you only need 50 grams or whatever. Carnivores would say the fruit and veg recs are dangerous. But if everyone in the West ate as the US FDA recommended there wouldn't be an obesity crisis obviously.

This is spot on.

But our guidelines are completely botched here, and people really do need to be taught the basics.

If we can get folks eating less processed stuff, a bit more protein, better sleep, and moving more, it can shift things dramatically for individuals, and overall health for the country.

[IroNat]

Insulin in itself might not be the problem. GLP-1 drugs increase insulin secretion in diabetics but lower weight, for example

Insulin causing obesity is faulty logic IMO. I was eating at least 400 grams of plain sugar a day and my abdominal skinfolds got so thin they couldn't even administer a subq injection at hospital. Now post-hospital I added both basal and meal insulin, gained about 17lbs so far and skinfolds are the same

You can achieve very low bodyfat levels eating only carbs.
Insulin production is part of the process of fat storage after glycogen needs for energy are met.
If you are altering your body's natural processes with drugs then all expectations change.
Why would you eat 400g of table sugar a day?
I'd be interested to know what your factors are that are noted as being an indication of metabolic syndrome.
Cardiovascular disease and Type 2 diabetes are conditions that progress over decades.

Note that total cholesterol and LDL levels are not part of the diagnosis of metabolic syndrome.
Most doctors however focus on these two factors.

"Metabolic syndrome is a clustering of at least three of the following five medical conditions: abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high serum triglycerides, and low serum high-density lipoprotein. Metabolic syndrome is associated with the risk of developing cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes."

[dj181]

Overeaiting calories is what's causing fatfucks dipshit

Not over consuming carbs

Get the fuck outta here with that horseshit

[Rambone]

Seed oils cause inflammation in the arteries which results in atherosclerosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis

A high carb diet (typical Western diet) causes high insulin production which makes the body store fat and and ultimately results in a failing pancreas and diabetes.
This fat storage mechanism was a useful survival process in primitive times of food scarcity but in modern society where food is plentiful just makes people fat.

This is why the very low/no carb diet (Gironda meat and eggs) burns fat and gets you ripped.

You don't have to go that extreme but you should greatly reduce carb consumption from the 300-400 grams a day Western Diet.

Your daily carb intake should be below 100 grams. 

Processed foods in the U.S. just about always contain both seed oils and lots of carbs. 

"Metabolic syndrome is a clustering of at least three of the following five medical conditions: abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high serum triglycerides, and low serum high-density lipoprotein. Metabolic syndrome is associated with the risk of developing cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes."


Typical Western Diet that results in Metabolic Syndrome.

You greatly missed my point, Natty.

[B_B_C]

this is the same kind of wishy washy stuff that Michelle Obama was peddling years ago.

If Kennedy really wants to address the nations eating problems why does he not just regulate the food industry better
He Probably doesn't have the appetite or balls to take on powerful interests.

[dj181]

this is the same kind of wishy washy stuff that Michelle Obama was peddling years ago.

If Kennedy really wants to address the nations eating problems why does he not just regulate the food industry better
He Probably doesn't have the appetite or balls to take on powerful interests.

Exactly he's a bought and paid slut whore for big food

And excess calories make you fat not carbs or processed foods

[B_B_C]

And excess calories make you fat not carbs or processed foods

really?

[IroNat]

Overeaiting calories coffee and water is what's causing fatfucks dipshit

Not over consuming carbs

Get the fuck outta here with that horseshit

You're very fat, dj.

[IroNat]

I’m sure switching from corn syrup to cane sugar and seed oils to tallow will make these fat excessive calorie consuming Americans slim down nicely…….

Sorry bone, went off preaching.

Yep, that won't cure the fatties.

[Necrosis]

Thanks. I know too little science to even have a vague opinion on what you said her lol. One idea that has been floated, perhaps by total morons, is that human life or a predecessor arrived from outer space Hell, many think our "reality" is just an illusion

Regarding this other wider discussion on who is an expert on health or whatever, my first post on the bodybuilding forums was "who are the experts?" because I wanted to read the most well regarded ones first to get some type of overview. There have been discussions here on who or what to believe on for example subjects like Covid and vaccines. I was saying that it's sort of ridiculous when a total layman has very strong opinions on this stuff, never having studied it or without even having any science related education. I have zero education on anything myself but more educated ones here said it's absolutely moronic to believe in "experts" or "studies" and folks can easily determine Covid and the vaxx was fake and so on. I remember asking MajorDomo on how to know what info to believe but I got none the wiser (not an attack on you Major, just honestly curious about all this). Of course I have my own views on Covid and am critical of how it was handled by TPTB, but at the same time I thought absolute morons had some very strong unfounded opinions too... nanorobots, killing most of the world on purpose and so on. I personally enjoy the conspiracy theory that the virus was US made, which has been advanced by Ron Unz. Suspicion is one thing but being sure is another.

Anyone who is commenting on the science of covid that is unable to tease apart a study can be summarily dismissed. That would go less so in my opinion on public health as the information then enters the polis and that is a very complex issue that imo could never be done correctly, particularly with hindsight. People fail to account for hindsight bias and think things that are clear now would have been obvious then.

Reality is technically an illusion per se, the brain generates "reality" using predictive processing. This is an age ol debate in philosophy, Kant described reality as a phenomenal realm- the objects we see that have a noumenal realm beneath it- what reality is like in itself (ding an sich). He postulated this because he realized (and this was a copernican revolution of sorts) that objects have the qualities they have because we are import them as such, we see redness but in itself its wavelengths etc..

The brain gives us a reality that is attuned to fitness (keeping us alive) rather then truth. In fact the self- your sense of you, your ego- is simply a fiction- its a program being run by your default mode network in conjunction with your saliance network (brain structures) and they can be shut down or decoupled during ego dissolution- you could call this the mystical state, selflessness, sunyata, moksha, jivan mukti, nirvana or any number of things.

I think most people are not overly intellectually curious and don't read very much tbh.

[dj181]

really?

Look up the law of thermodynamics

[B_B_C]

Look up the law of thermodynamics

Explain to me, because I don't have your level of intelligence, why carbs and processed foods have no calories.

[Van_Bilderass]

If you are altering your body's natural processes with drugs then all expectations change.
Why would you eat 400g of table sugar a day?
I'd be interested to know what your factors are that are noted as being an indication of metabolic syndrome.

I'm on "sports TRT" pretty much. Roids but no GH.

I have had catastrophic abdominal obesity for a long time. Ate absurd amounts of sugars and carbs for decades with zero consideration wrt health. Periodically extra insulin on top. No excuses, just what I did. When I've had my a1c, and of course fasting glucose tested it's always been normal, amazingly enough. I had pancreatitis in December of last year, it cleared up, but last about 3 months I again started feeling something was wrong. I was losing weight, appetite was poor, but I could drink Cokes so I drank up 12 cans a day to try to stop the weight loss. I also drank a lot of RTDs and 2 solid meals where I tried to eat fatty meats with gravy and so on. But I got amazingly lean for the first time in my life, I mean who can't do subq insulin shots in the belly due to there being no fat? LOL. Doctors didn't think the illness itself changed my metabolism, I must have simply eaten less, but I kinda doubt that.

When I was fat I could sometimes shoot a large dose of insulin and not eat so my insulin sensitivity must have been absolute shit. I don't know how much damage my lifetime consumption of sugar has done to my body, must be considerable, but I don't have high cholesterol or trigs, my HDL though is low due to roids. Currently my insulin sensitivity is extremely high based on my reaction to comparatively very low doses of injected insulin and it's working very well for what I'm using it for.

I'm trying to change my eating habits at this very late stage of my life. It's cool being lean, always thought it was ideal but couldn't muster the motivation to actually get lean. Now that I'm lean let's see if I can keep it

[dj181]

Are you sub 6 vanb?

[Van_Bilderass]

Are you sub 6 vanb?

Absolutely not, I'm at least twice that though I really can't tell myself. It's just mainly my stomach and arms that got very lean. But I think I theoretically could get "ripped" fairly quickly since I got a head start so to speak. But I have to put muscle back on now, my thighs almost curve inwards from the knee LOL (cry); I'll try to limit fat gain though. I was at the supermarket the other day and there were some salesmen outside with tables and one goes, holy shit, you must lift a lot, I think only because of my veiny forearms. I had a headset on and pretended not to hear

I'm up about 8kg in a couple of weeks from insulin, extra carbs and creatine and the veins on my stomach are protruding even more, but they are ugly as fuck tbh. Pumps are back and lifting is fun

I was taking something called "Super Cardarine" before my illness, a more potent version of Cardarine, I wonder if that contributed to my leaning out; that's what it's suppose to do anyway. Probably also helped increase my insulin sensitivity.

[affeman]

He wants the doctors to look as fit and healthy as himself?

[Humble Narcissist]

^^^ His face may look old but he's pretty damn fit.

[IroNat]

^^^ His face may look old but he's pretty damn fit.

70 years old.
Lots of time spent in the sun.

[Humble Narcissist]

70 years old.
Lots of time spent in the sun.

Yep, leisurely sunning by the pool for decades.

[dj181]

Absolutely not, I'm at least twice that though I really can't tell myself. It's just mainly my stomach and arms that got very lean. But I think I theoretically could get "ripped" fairly quickly since I got a head start so to speak. But I have to put muscle back on now, my thighs almost curve inwards from the knee LOL (cry); I'll try to limit fat gain though. I was at the supermarket the other day and there were some salesmen outside with tables and one goes, holy shit, you must lift a lot, I think only because of my veiny forearms. I had a headset on and pretended not to hear

I'm up about 8kg in a couple of weeks from insulin, extra carbs and creatine and the veins on my stomach are protruding even more, but they are ugly as fuck tbh. Pumps are back and lifting is fun

I was taking something called "Super Cardarine" before my illness, a more potent version of Cardarine, I wonder if that contributed to my leaning out; that's what it's suppose to do anyway. Probably also helped increase my insulin sensitivity.

Yeah but the real reason that tost weight is because you were taking in less cals than you were using

And its much much easier to eat less than exercise more for wekght loss

[Van_Bilderass]

Yeah but the real reason that tost weight is because you were taking in less cals than you were using

And its much much easier to eat less than exercise more for wekght loss

For some it might be harder, for us it's easier. Lots of pros have claimed they do cardio pre-contest so they can eat just a little more. For body composition I believe cardio can add benefits apart from just burning calories, it stimulates certain metabolic pathways.

[Coach is Back!]

He wants the doctors to look as fit and healthy as himself?

You're not even from this country but I'll humor you anyway. This is the poster child for mental illness

[Necrosis]

You're not even from this country but I'll humor you anyway. This is the poster child for mental illness

What a lovely young lady.

That's a rough looking creature no matter what way you slice it. She or he or whatever as I dont know anything about her could technically be mentally health as it happy, contented, secure etc but its certainly not physically healthy. I don't believe he is mentally healthy but its possible!!

[illuminati]

What a lovely young lady.

That's a rough looking creature no matter what way you slice it. She or he or whatever as I dont know anything about her could technically be mentally health as it happy, contented, secure etc but its certainly not physically healthy. I don't believe he is mentally healthy but its possible!!

Damn !! Have you just had a Bang to the head.

That Hideous creature is Primes Idol & Heroe - He'll be along with a 5000
Word post telling you all about how great & good it is.