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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2025, 08:43:25 AM »
No Protestants without first having Catholics.

The original Christians weren't catholic either.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2025, 08:44:24 AM »
The original Christians weren't catholic either.
Gnostics?

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2025, 08:52:29 AM »
Gnostics?

Yes. During the Roman Empire there were various sects such as Arianism, Nestorianism, Donatists etc.

For instance Constanine's son Constantius was Arian.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2025, 09:52:04 AM »
Lots of heresies but not prevailing, they died off or went into obscure. Members of the Church, christians were not agnostic, unity was always important including hierarchy of the Chruch itself, bishops etc. St. Ignatius of Antioch, Church Fathers letters are nice exapmple of it - https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=3836

Catholic only means universal in end, some orthodox call themselves catholic too.

https://www.ecatholic2000.com/ Here you can read about the faith, the Church including catechism, Church Fathers, history etc.

People don`t read enough and consequently confusion as well as ignorance are abundant nowadays...

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2025, 10:49:50 AM »
I find that these points make a good case against Roman Catholicism.

20 Essential Truths of the New Testament

No. 1 - The Purposes of Holy Scripture is for the knowledge of salvation: Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11;
2 Tim. 3:15; 2 Pet. 1:21

No. 2 - The Holy Scriptures were inspired by God to teach us all truth: Mark 12:24; John 16:13, 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:14; 2 Pet. 1:19

No. 3 - The Spirit of God teaches us personally through the study of the Scriptures: Matt. 4:4; John 20:30; 2 Cor. 4:3; Heb. 4:12

No. 4 - Man in sin cannot understand the Bible: John 8:47;  1 Cor 2:14; 2 Pet 3:16

No. 5 - We must be under the influence of the Holy Spirit: Luke 24:45; Rom 8:5; 1 Cor 2:9; 1 Cor 2:15; Eph 1:16; 1 John 2:20

No. 6 - Religious traditions are false doctrines: Matthew 15:3; Mark 7:7; Gal 1:8; Col 2:8,20; 1 Timothy 1:3, 6:3; Rev 22:18

No. 7 - God, the one Father and Creator, is ONE with His only Son, Jesus Christ, in a single Spirit who gives life: Matthew 3:16; Matthew 28:19; John 14:26, John 16:13; John 16:27; 2 Cor 13:13; Eph 4:4;  Tit 3:4; 1Jn 5:6

No. 8 - Jesus Christ is God from all eternity, Word of God, true God and true man:
Jn 1:1, 1:9, 8:58, 10:30; Col 1:14; 2:8; 1Tim 3:16; Heb 1:5; 1Jn 2:22, 4:15, 5:11, 1Jn 5:20; Rev 1:8

No. 9 - God is the ONLY One who must receive, in the name of Jesus Christ, our worship and prayers: Mt 4:10, 6:9; Jn 14:13; Jn 16:23; Jas 1:5;  1 John 3:22

No. 10 - All men are born in a state of sin and are condemned to eternal death: John 8:21, 15:5;
Rom 2:1, 3:10, 5:12, 6:23, 7:5; 1 Cor 1:19, 15:21; Eph 2:1, 4:17

No. 11 - All sin leads to death, without distinction between venial and mortal sins: Rom 6:23; 1 Cor 6:9; Gal 3:10, 5:19; Jas 2:10; 1 John 3:4 Rev 21:8

No. 12 - Jesus Christ, by dying in our place, made atonement for our sins, and delivers us from the curse of death: Rom 5:6; 2 Cor 5:18; Gal 3:13 Col 2:10; Heb 9:26;  1 Pet 2:24

No. 13 - It is by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ that our souls are purified: Rom 5:1, 5:9, 8:1, 8:29, 8:32-37;
2 Cor 5:1; Eph 1:6; Phil 1:23; Col 1:22, 2:13; Heb 7:25, 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 John 1:7; Rev 1:6, 7:14

No. 14 - Only Jesus Christ is Savior: nothing else saves us before God, neither gold, nor silver, nor virgins, nor saints, nor angels, nor religious practices: John 10:9, 15:4; Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5;  1 Pet 1:18

No. 15 - The only mediator between God and men is Jesus Christ: the only high priest, the only intercessor, the only counselor, the only leader, and the only shepherd: John 14:6, John 14:13; Rom 8:33; Eph 2:8, 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 7:24, 9:24; 1 John 2:1

No. 16 - Salvation is free, through faith in Jesus Christ: so whoever believes and obeys the Lord Jesus Christ is justified and saved. John 1:12, 3:16, 3:36, 20:31; Acts 10:43, 16:30; Rom 1:17, 3:23, Rom 5:1; Gal 2:16, 3:11; Ephesians 2:8, Titus 3:4;  1 John 5:10

No. 17 To attain salvation, man must confess his sins and ask God for forgiveness: Matthew 12:36;
Luke 11:2, 18:13; Acts 2:38, 8:22; Rom. 14:12; 2 Corinthians 5:19-21; 1 Pet. 1:18, 1 John 2:1-2

No. 18 - The doctrine of salvation by works is unbiblical. Salvation cannot be bought. It is a gift from God: Matthew 19:25; Luke 17:10; Rom. 3:19, 11:6; Gal. 2:16, 3:10; Gal. 5:4; Eph. 2:8

No. 19 - True faith naturally generates good works through the Holy Spirit: Rom. 6:5; Gal. 5:6; Eph. 2:8;  Tit 2:13; Heb 11:6; Jas 2:14; 1 Jn 2:4/by obedience: Gal 5:16, 5:22, Eph 4:24, 5:8; Jas 1:16

No. 20 Jesus will return for the elect: Jn 12:26, ​​14:3, 14:18
1 Th 4:14
AND EVERYTHING WILL BE JUDGED: MT 12:36, 16:27, RM 2:5, 14:10; 1 Co 4:5; 2 Tim 4:1; Re 20:12-15

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2025, 11:02:48 AM »
You're really hung up on this.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2025, 11:15:58 AM »
This topic is at the forefront of my mind with increasing intensity. I really feel a very strong compulsion to follow through on this. Thoughts?


You're really hung up on this.

Great observation skills.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2025, 11:18:42 AM »
Both sides of my family don’t care whether someone is Catholic or Protestant.

It’s often way too similar to give a damn here in the USA.

My father’s ex wife is some form of German Protestant and I’d go to that church on some Sundays.

The Greek churches I’ve been too were a better example of it being different. I only go to those for my brother’s wife or this food festival I go to.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2025, 11:20:44 AM »
Both sides of my family don’t care whether someone is Catholic or Protestant.

It’s often way too similar to give a damn here in the USA.

My father’s ex wife is some form of German Protestant and I’d go to that church on some Sundays.

The Greek churches I’ve been too were a better example of it being different. I only go to those for my brother’s wife or this food festival I go to.

If they don't care it just means they don't care about their family burning in hell. I can see that being common.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2025, 11:25:32 AM »
If they don't care it just means they don't care about their family burning in hell. I can see that being common.

You are delusional.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2025, 11:27:43 AM »
You are delusional.
Pot calling kettle black.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2025, 11:29:28 AM »
Pot calling kettle black.

You do not understand Christs message about the Kingdom of God.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2025, 11:35:38 AM »
You do not understand Christs message about the Kingdom of God.
I presented a lot of points with references. You have only presented feelings and delusions. You are not just dumb, you are also a lazy son of a bitch.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2025, 11:42:12 AM »
You`re lost in your own world of self authority and lack of knowledge of the faith since protestants lack the fullness of said faith.

It is an extremely strange, schizophrenic thinking even to use the texts that the Catholic Church canonized (which teaches in accordance with the scriptures through its magisterium), put together to prove how the same Church is not the one, true Church.

It is the gospel that you, according to your limited knowledge interpret as you please, resulting in errors and neverending heresies.

The sheer amount of hatred towards the Catholic Church that comes from the protestant side is astounding but  is also understandable taking into consideration the centuries of lies...


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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2025, 11:43:22 AM »
You`re lost in your own world of self authority and lack of knowledge of the faith since protestants lack the fullness of said faith.

It is an extremely strange, schizophrenic thinking even to use the texts that the Catholic Church canonized (which teaches in accordance with the scriptures through its magisterium), put together to prove how the same Church is not the one, true Church.

It is the gospel that you, according to your limited knowledge interpret as you please, resulting in errors and neverending heresies.

The sheer amount of hatred towards the Catholic Church that comes from the protestant side is astounding but  is also understandable taking into consideration the centuries of lies...

Retard

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2025, 11:44:33 AM »
I presented a lot of points with references. You have only presented feelings and delusions. You are not just dumb, you are also a lazy son of a bitch.

Points with references? no you did not, now your sounding delusional. Look in the mirror and repeat what you just said to me and ask yourself do I sound like a good Christian???

Not one word from Jesus himself in the gospels supports your hatred for Catholics, maybe you should divorce your wife.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2025, 11:49:38 AM »
Retard

I suggest you work on your virtues for starters...

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2025, 03:20:00 PM »
Points with references? no you did not, now your sounding delusional. Look in the mirror and repeat what you just said to me and ask yourself do I sound like a good Christian???

Not one word from Jesus himself in the gospels supports your hatred for Catholics, maybe you should divorce your wife.
Dumb guy, do you gave the capacity to read? I posted 20 points with extensive references

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2025, 09:08:24 PM »
Not from Jesus words.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2025, 09:28:03 PM »
You're really hung up on this.

Thats how his wife will find him.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2025, 10:34:20 PM »
Thats how his wife will find him.

Kill yourself, retard, and join the billions of catholics in hell.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2025, 11:16:09 PM »
You sound like the devil to me. Take the plank out of your own eye first.

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #72 on: September 27, 2025, 01:32:54 AM »
if you find god, please fuck him.
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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2025, 09:32:07 AM »
Kill yourself, retard, and join the billions of catholics in hell.
Very Christian of you. ;D

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Re: Converting to protestantism after marrying a catholic: a theological dilemma
« Reply #74 on: September 27, 2025, 09:42:04 AM »
Interesting thread...oh boy lol